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Cop caught on camera punching 20-year-old woman

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-punching-woman-beach-arres-article-1.4013088



Not surprised when this happened because..

Trump tells cops they should rough people up more during arrests
 
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To be frank I think she was likely punched for no other reason than resisting arrest. Maybe the police should carry fast acting trank darts. Drunks and people on dope don't always make rational decisions.
 
" Philadelphia's KYW-TV said Weinman kicked an officer in the groin during the arrest, but the video does not appear to show it."

I'm thinking maybe this could have something to do with it. That does tend to heighten the anger level in a confrontation.

I don't condone hitting women under most conditions, an exception would be if she is threatening deadly force with a weapon. I can see how it could have gotten out of hand IF she kicked him in the groin.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
" Philadelphia's KYW-TV said Weinman kicked an officer in the groin during the arrest, but the video does not appear to show it."

I'm thinking maybe this could have something to do with it. That does tend to heighten the anger level in a confrontation.

I don't condone hitting women under most conditions, an exception would be is she is threatening deadly force with a weapon. I can see how it could have gotten out of hand IF she kicked him in the groin.
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This is no exception, but it has nothing to do with her being a woman. The video is incomplete, but I can see no possible reason for a cop to punch in the face a prone person. They need to facilitate arrest by controlling her wrists and tackling if need be. They were doing a poor job of that, too. I agree the video does not show the inciting incident that made the police angry. That makes his reaction a lot more understandable. But not appropriate. I really doubt firing him is just punishment, although I'd like to know more about how different his behavior is than those on his unit to compare.
 
Glanced at title, thought "somebody must be reposting my video of that cop punching his daughter in the face" because surely this isn't such a common occurrence that it gets caught on video twice in a matter of days. LOL


Of course the usually fascist defense force is here with moonbeam taking the lead in making excuses for beating women. How often do you beat women @Moonbeam ? seems like every time a woman gets punched in the face you are here to tell us they deserved it. My guess is you probably have some experience "dealing justice" in this manner. Otherwise, what the *** is wrong with you?
 
FIVR said:
Glanced at title, thought "somebody must be reposting my video of that cop punching his daughter in the face" because surely this isn't such a common occurrence that it gets caught on video twice in a matter of days. LOL


Of course the usually fascist defense force is here with moonbeam taking the lead in making excuses for beating women. How often do you beat women @Moonbeam ? seems like every time a woman gets punched in the face you are here to tell us they deserved it. My guess is you probably have some experience "dealing justice" in this manner. Otherwise, what the *** is wrong with you?
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Yeah that's not an appropriate call-out. @Moonbeam really seemed to only render opinion on the circumstances that caused the punch. I'm not sure he supports it based on what he wrote. Perhaps he can clarify.

Separately, can you say why it matters that she is a woman here? I don't think police should have a different set of rules when arresting a person based on sex.
 
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Yeah that's not an appropriate call-out. @Moonbeam really seemed to only render opinion on the circumstances that caused the punch. I'm not sure he supports it based on what he wrote. Perhaps he can clarify.
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Moonbeam appears to approve of the beating of women (and children). Every time a story is posted with a woman being punched in the face on camera he rushes to the scene to explain why it is OK and not a problem that this happened. He chose to come here and defend assault and it is totally appropriate to call him out for it and make him explain himself.

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Separately, can you say why it matters that she is a woman here? I don't think police should have a different set of rules when arresting a person based on sex.
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Are you seriously asking this question? Does it matter if you beat a 4 year old child vs an adult human? Women are much smaller and physically weaker than men, they are also more susceptible to head injuries and concussions (this is a medical fact). If you don't even understand that different demographics of humans can tolerate different amounts of physical abuse then I sincerely hope you are not in any position to care for another human, let alone a small child or baby.
 
pcgeek11 said:
" Philadelphia's KYW-TV said Weinman kicked an officer in the groin during the arrest, but the video does not appear to show it."

I'm thinking maybe this could have something to do with it. That does tend to heighten the anger level in a confrontation.

I don't condone hitting women under most conditions, an exception would be if she is threatening deadly force with a weapon. I can see how it could have gotten out of hand IF she kicked him in the groin.
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Bull shit. Even if she kicked this officer in the groin 30 seconds before that doesn't give him the right to punch her. His job is to control the situation not extract revenge for injuries to himself or other officers. From the video she is sufficiently under control to remove any justification for him punching her. It wasn't done in self defense. Therefore he should be held accountable.
 
FIVR said:
Moonbeam appears to approve of the beating of women (and children). Every time a story is posted with a woman being punched in the face on camera he rushes to the scene to explain why it is OK and not a problem that this happened. He chose to come here and defend assault and it is totally appropriate to call him out for it and make him explain himself.
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That's not consistent with my experience with him. Still, it is up to him to clarify his words. I heard them differently is all.

FIVR said:
Are you seriously asking this question? Does it matter if you beat a 4 year old child vs an adult human? Women are much smaller and physically weaker than men, they are also more susceptible to head injuries and concussions (this is a medical fact). If you don't even understand that different demographics of humans can tolerate different amounts of physical abuse then I sincerely hope you are not in any position to care for another human, let alone a small child or baby.
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The point I am making is that police behavior needs to be based on the threat and physical capability of the person you are dealing with. While that certainly correlates with sex, it is not defined by it. Thus, a large woman swinging a cro-bar at you doesn't get a lesser response because she's a woman. Nor does a small man with his hands in the air get roughed up because he's a man. We can argue the value of different societal codes in addressing men and women, but police work is just that. Their job is to enforce the law, and they should do so equally.
 
FIVR said:
Glanced at title, thought "somebody must be reposting my video of that cop punching his daughter in the face" because surely this isn't such a common occurrence that it gets caught on video twice in a matter of days. LOL


Of course the usually fascist defense force is here with moonbeam taking the lead in making excuses for beating women. How often do you beat women @Moonbeam ? seems like every time a woman gets punched in the face you are here to tell us they deserved it. My guess is you probably have some experience "dealing justice" in this manner. Otherwise, what the *** is wrong with you?
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So women should be allowed to resist as much as they want? Officers should just accept any injuries inflicted upon them?
 
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Are you seriously asking this question? Does it matter if you beat a 4 year old child vs an adult human? Women are much smaller and physically weaker than men, they are also more susceptible to head injuries and concussions (this is a medical fact). If you don't even understand that different demographics of humans can tolerate different amounts of physical abuse then I sincerely hope you are not in any position to care for another human, let alone a small child or baby.
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Ah! So this entitles them to resist arrest with impunity! I understand now.
 
FIVR said:
Glanced at title, thought "somebody must be reposting my video of that cop punching his daughter in the face" because surely this isn't such a common occurrence that it gets caught on video twice in a matter of days. LOL


Of course the usually fascist defense force is here with moonbeam taking the lead in making excuses for beating women. How often do you beat women @Moonbeam ? seems like every time a woman gets punched in the face you are here to tell us they deserved it. My guess is you probably have some experience "dealing justice" in this manner. Otherwise, what the *** is wrong with you?
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Moonbeam is obviously at a much higher level of understanding than you. They don't teach that stuff in Russia.

The above is probably just my usual sarcasm and in no way reflects my real opinion (and,or) may include subtleties of sufficient rarity as to appear to the unsuspecting like total gibberish. It may not be so much a matter that I'm far out, but rather that you have never been anywhere.
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FIVR said:
Glanced at title, thought "somebody must be reposting my video of that cop punching his daughter in the face" because surely this isn't such a common occurrence that it gets caught on video twice in a matter of days. LOL


Of course the usually fascist defense force is here with moonbeam taking the lead in making excuses for beating women. How often do you beat women @Moonbeam ? seems like every time a woman gets punched in the face you are here to tell us they deserved it. My guess is you probably have some experience "dealing justice" in this manner. Otherwise, what the *** is wrong with you?
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I just wanted to see who would be willing to beat me up if I resisted complying with their outrage rule book.
 
That was in my hometown Wildwood, NJ! From what I've heard it was crazy this weekend. Tons of underage kids drinking, cursing, and fighting. Still, she didn't deserve to be punched. I didn't go out much. Way too many teens yelling.

Cops job might be in jeopardy. Looks like a rookie as well.
 
Mai72 said:
That was in my hometown Wildwood, NJ! From what I've heard it was crazy this weekend. Tons of underage kids drinking, cursing, and fighting. Still, she didn't deserve to be punched. I didn't go out much. Way too many teens yelling.

Cops job might be in jeopardy. Looks like a rookie as well.
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If you can't deal with tons of underage drunk asshole kids you shouldn't be a cop in Wildwood. That's pretty much line #1 on the job description. Let's hope he was a rookie, a veteran cop should be a little smarter than to do shit like that in an area with so many cameras. Why don't police academies have classes in how to work out your thug tendencies beating up winos in dark alleys at 3:00am? Doing it on a crowded beach in broad daylight is literally a rookie mistake.
 
pcgeek11 said:
" Philadelphia's KYW-TV said Weinman kicked an officer in the groin during the arrest, but the video does not appear to show it."

I'm thinking maybe this could have something to do with it. That does tend to heighten the anger level in a confrontation.

I don't condone hitting women under most conditions, an exception would be if she is threatening deadly force with a weapon. I can see how it could have gotten out of hand IF she kicked him in the groin.
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Again, I wonder if they afford the same courtesies to the domestic assault calls where a man is beating his spouse for the exact same reasons?

There are three male cops there that each outweigh her, taking the context of the entire situation what he did was clearly assault and he should be charged and fired. Of course he won't be, he will get some paid vacation and be back to assaulting citizens in no time.
 
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