What exactly have "we" destroyed?
Originally posted by: etech
HJD1,
What exactly have "we" destroyed?
Originally posted by: Alistar7
I guess the Bush Bashers just doesn't know how to stop and determine the facts before they make up their mind.......
Originally posted by: HJD1
Originally posted by: etech
HJD1,
What exactly have "we" destroyed?
All that "we" have.
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: HJD1
Originally posted by: etech
HJD1,
What exactly have "we" destroyed?
All that "we" have.
Try not to be cute and just answer the question.
Thank you.
BBD, you should know better than that, but since you are being dense today I'll refine the question.
In Afghanistan and the Iraqi wars, what exactly have "we" destroyed?
I simply propose. It is for you, if you wish, to dispose. "We as a people" are "We as a species" as defined in the story that followed my statement. We as a people find destruction as the only viable means to achieve our various agenda when non destructive means fail. A species with such a philosophy will surely perish. A superior species such as ourselves ought to know better.
Your clarification was certainly necessary . . . unlike the personal attack. I would say we've probably killed fewer than 5K innocent civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq. But on balance neither place is any worse or better of than before US intervention.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I wish I got it HJ, those guys are way over my head.
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
I almost posted on this subject a couple of days ago, but decided to weigh the issues before I made a statement.
FIRST - I find it to be rather cavaleir of Rummy to write off the fact that we are taking casualties in Iraq by equating it
with a Crime statistic in our country, or the chances of it being an accident on the road.
They are in a combat zone in Iraq - not in a getto in the U.S. or a Freeway in Texas.
They were put there on purpose, for a purpose. A casualty there is a miliraty personel loss.
SECOND - If we had 100,000+ armed soldiers patroling the streets of Washington D.C. 24 hours a day how high
would the crime rate be with orders to use deadly force when confronted - if necessary.
The wild card here is if that action would trigger a Kent State situation, quell the violence,
or ignite an uprising of the citizens who oppose that level of domination - quite like Baghdad.
I find Rumbo to be just too cutesy arrogant for the position of trust he pretends from.
Mayor Anthony A. Williams and Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton declared their own war yesterday against the country's top defense official.
Originally posted by: etech
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Mayor Anthony A. Williams and Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton declared their own war yesterday against the country's top defense official.
Wouldn't it be a better use of their time to try and find ways to lower the poverty and murder rates in the city they are responsible for?
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
I almost posted on this subject a couple of days ago, but decided to weigh the issues before I made a statement.
FIRST - I find it to be rather cavaleir of Rummy to write off the fact that we are taking casualties in Iraq by equating it
with a Crime statistic in our country, or the chances of it being an accident on the road.
They are in a combat zone in Iraq - not in a getto in the U.S. or a Freeway in Texas.
They were put there on purpose, for a purpose. A casualty there is a miliraty personel loss.
SECOND - If we had 100,000+ armed soldiers patroling the streets of Washington D.C. 24 hours a day how high
would the crime rate be with orders to use deadly force when confronted - if necessary.
The wild card here is if that action would trigger a Kent State situation, quell the violence,
or ignite an uprising of the citizens who oppose that level of domination - quite like Baghdad.
I find Rumbo to be just too cutesy arrogant for the position of trust he pretends from.
Comparing Iraq to California, at least in my eyes, is done by this Administration to place California in a bad light as BushBaby did not carry the state in the 2000 Election Fraud
Originally posted by: mastertech01
Comparing Iraq to California, at least in my eyes, is done by this Administration to place California in a bad light as BushBaby did not carry the state in the 2000 Election Fraud
This statement alone has to be one the most rediculous spins I have read to date on this forum.. :disgust:
Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: etech
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Mayor Anthony A. Williams and Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton declared their own war yesterday against the country's top defense official.
Wouldn't it be a better use of their time to try and find ways to lower the poverty and murder rates in the city they are responsible for?
Are you kidding? This is the same city run by a congressionally-mandated control board because of the adventures of such "illustrious" politicians as Marion Barry, et. al. They, meaning the local political status-quo, "never" blame anyone else for their own inherent shortcomings.
Probably because the international, geographical aptitude of the average American is about on par with that of Mr. Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man. Why not give them something they can relate to? For many years, "West Germany" was equated in size to the state of Oregon.Comparing Iraq to California, at least in my eyes, is done by this Administration to place California in a bad light as BushBaby did not carry the state in the 2000 Election Fraud. Why don't they say 'About 1/2 the size of Texas', Slightly smaller that Montana, or compare it to a foriegn country as in 'Slightly bigger than Sweden', or ever 'A little larger than Spain' - all of which is true. (as is California being 'Slighty" smaller than Iraq.)
Correct and my mistake. Should have substituted "ran" for "run". The control board was "only" applicable for six years. Marion sez hey!Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: etech
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Mayor Anthony A. Williams and Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton declared their own war yesterday against the country's top defense official.
Wouldn't it be a better use of their time to try and find ways to lower the poverty and murder rates in the city they are responsible for?
Are you kidding? This is the same city run by a congressionally-mandated control board because of the adventures of such "illustrious" politicians as Marion Barry, et. al. They, meaning the local political status-quo, "never" blame anyone else for their own inherent shortcomings.
The control board is long gone.
Originally posted by: burnedout
Probably because the international, geographical aptitude of the average American is about on par with that of Mr. Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man. Why not give them something they can relate to? For many years, "West Germany" was equated in size to the state of Oregon.Comparing Iraq to California, at least in my eyes, is done by this Administration to place California in a bad light as BushBaby did not carry the state in the 2000 Election Fraud. Why don't they say 'About 1/2 the size of Texas', Slightly smaller that Montana, or compare it to a foriegn country as in 'Slightly bigger than Sweden', or ever 'A little larger than Spain' - all of which is true. (as is California being 'Slighty" smaller than Iraq.)