(Confirmed) Vote Tampering In North Carolina

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piasabird

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I think we should outlaw all absentee ballots except for military members. Then make all absentee ballots be notarized and witnessed by tow people. Then attach your state ID to the form. Plus no one who cant make their own decisions legally should be allowed to vote. Then if the state has a lot of absentee votes, 10% should be verified. Election officials and consultant firms should not be able to obtain the absentee ballots. The individual should request the ballot from a state office and be sent to a valid address. Then the Return address should be verified by the state that received the request.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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I think we should outlaw all absentee ballots except for military members. Then make all absentee ballots be notarized and witnessed by tow people. Then attach your state ID to the form. Plus no one who cant make their own decisions legally should be allowed to vote. Then if the state has a lot of absentee votes, 10% should be verified. Election officials and consultant firms should not be able to obtain the absentee ballots. The individual should request the ballot from a state office and be sent to a valid address. Then the Return address should be verified by the state that received the request.
Congrats. You just disenfranchised a bunch of voters.

Keep in mind, and I know this is hard, this was election fraud. Not voter fraud.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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This is why disillusioned Independents like me are so disgusted with politics. Republicans and Democrats need to stop tampering with votes and run a clean campaign.

They should run new candidates. And yes, voter fraud is real, and they are always stories about in urban areas. It needs to be addressed. Period.

Search the forum. Lots of info on “voter fraud”. You sound very ignorant.
 
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Honestly haven't kept up with this thread, but have seen plenty of news stories on this.

What fucking bewilders me is how long this story has gone on... and we still haven't seen charges pressed. This seems so fucking open and shut at this point - god damn, I hope this fucking idiot is in the slammer for 50 years. Voter fraud needs to be taken serious - when I say serious I don't mean 2 days, 20 days, or 2 years. I mean 10+ at minimal.

I understand you need to give people time in jail for crimes to deter them - but the severity of voter fraud needs to be emphasized heavily.

Also I've never seen a bigger moron on TV with his bullshit "Dur hur, I dun no wut happened, I dun had 2 strokes" defense
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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Honestly haven't kept up with this thread, but have seen plenty of news stories on this.

What fucking bewilders me is how long this story has gone on... and we still haven't seen charges pressed. This seems so fucking open and shut at this point - god damn, I hope this fucking idiot is in the slammer for 50 years. Voter fraud needs to be taken serious - when I say serious I don't mean 2 days, 20 days, or 2 years. I mean 10+ at minimal.

I understand you need to give people time in jail for crimes to deter them - but the severity of voter fraud needs to be emphasized heavily.

Also I've never seen a bigger moron on TV with his bullshit "Dur hur, I dun no wut happened, I dun had 2 strokes" defense
THIS IS NOT VOTER FRAUD.

THIS IS ELECTION FRAUD.
 
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I think we should outlaw all absentee ballots except for military members. Then make all absentee ballots be notarized and witnessed by tow people. Then attach your state ID to the form. Plus no one who cant make their own decisions legally should be allowed to vote. Then if the state has a lot of absentee votes, 10% should be verified. Election officials and consultant firms should not be able to obtain the absentee ballots. The individual should request the ballot from a state office and be sent to a valid address. Then the Return address should be verified by the state that received the request.

I don't like your idea, I have to imagine that tow truck companies would have better uses of their time. Unless you're suggesting we subsidize one free (mandatory) tow per year. Which I maybe if we had those rolling emissions facilities that Europe has where they can come to you and do your emissions test and take care of your voting at the same time.

THIS IS NOT VOTER FRAUD.

THIS IS ELECTION FRAUD.

Don't play stupid games, you'll just win stupid prizes.
 
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THIS IS NOT VOTER FRAUD.

THIS IS ELECTION FRAUD.

Voter fraud, election fraud. I guess I equate voter fraud to illegal acts having to do with the voting process... You know, like illegal mail ballots?

I honestly don't give a shit which box you toss this into. Fine, election fraud I'm not debating what you call it.
 
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Took them long enough... and that's good to hear... BUT... This is apparently entirely irrelevant to this election

The charges that were unsealed on Wednesday were not tied to the 2018 general election, which investigators are still examining and which Mr. Harris once appeared to have won by 905 votes. Instead, this week’s indictments were linked to an election in 2016,
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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Voter fraud, election fraud. I guess I equate voter fraud to illegal acts having to do with the voting process... You know, like illegal mail ballots?

I honestly don't give a shit which box you toss this into. Fine, election fraud I'm not debating what you call it.
Yes, you are. You're doing it to give cover to the disingenuous bullshit disenfranchisement of voters that you want to perpetuate.

This is rigging an election by one of the candidates. This is not any number of voters committing fraud.

The GOP rails against the imaginary voter fraud. They are perpetuating election fraud.
 
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Yes, you are. You're doing it to give cover to the disingenuous bullshit disenfranchisement of voters that you want to perpetuate.

This is rigging an election by one of the candidates. This is not any number of voters committing fraud.

The GOP rails against the imaginary voter fraud. They are perpetuating election fraud.

I am (in all seriousness) fucking not you moron. I have never proclaimed voter fraud previously. I have no history of saying voter fraud. I SINCERELY don't fucking care what you call it.

I probably called it "voter fraud" because "election fraud" is a term that I just haven't heard in the last 10+ years.

I HONESTLY do not give a shit. I do not care what you call it. I am not disingenuous on this. You're a moron. That is all.

Quit being so partisan to the point of ignorance. Burn this piece of shit on the stakes.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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I am (in all seriousness) fucking not you moron. I have never proclaimed voter fraud previously. I have no history of saying voter fraud. I SINCERELY don't fucking care what you call it.

I probably called it "voter fraud" because "election fraud" is a term that I just haven't heard in the last 10+ years.

I HONESTLY do not give a shit. I do not care what you call it. I am not disingenuous on this. You're a moron. That is all.

Quit being so partisan to the point of ignorance. Burn this piece of shit on the stakes.
Your posting history tells another story.

And you calling anyone else partisan is a fucking joke.
 
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Your posting history tells another story.

And you calling anyone else partisan is a fucking joke.

Great. FABULOUS.

Quote my "posting history" where I talked of voter fraud as a serious issue - and in particular, related to the left committing it.

Go on. Do it. You fucking halfwit.
 

jackstar7

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Great. FABULOUS.

Quote my "posting history" where I talked of voter fraud as a serious issue - and in particular, related to the left committing it.

Go on. Do it. You fucking halfwit.
You said in response to someone explaining that voter fraud is not a problem that you can't see it if you're not looking for it.

It was a stupid post because clearly there are people who look for it and there still isn't any of any import, but do tell me your thoughts on voter ID laws. Please.
 
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You said in response to someone explaining that voter fraud is not a problem that you can't see it if you're not looking for it.

It was a stupid post because clearly there are people who look for it and there still isn't any of any import, but do tell me your thoughts on voter ID laws. Please.

I don't know how you can divert any more than what you just did. Seriously. We turn from talking about proclaiming voter fraud to asking me about my thoughts on Voter ID Laws?

Look more stupid, please - it's quite entertaining.
 
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jackstar7

Lifer
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I don't know how you can divert any more than what you just did. Seriously. We turn from talking about proclaiming voter fraud to asking me about my thoughts on Voter ID Laws?

Look more stupid, please - it's quite entertaining.
Well, you didn't answer, so I guess we know where you stand, as I suspected.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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I think we should outlaw all absentee ballots except for military members. Then make all absentee ballots be notarized and witnessed by tow people. Then attach your state ID to the form. Plus no one who cant make their own decisions legally should be allowed to vote. Then if the state has a lot of absentee votes, 10% should be verified. Election officials and consultant firms should not be able to obtain the absentee ballots. The individual should request the ballot from a state office and be sent to a valid address. Then the Return address should be verified by the state that received the request.
We know why you want to make it easy for the military instead of easy for all.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Honestly haven't kept up with this thread, but have seen plenty of news stories on this.

What fucking bewilders me is how long this story has gone on... and we still haven't seen charges pressed. This seems so fucking open and shut at this point - god damn, I hope this fucking idiot is in the slammer for 50 years. Voter fraud needs to be taken serious - when I say serious I don't mean 2 days, 20 days, or 2 years. I mean 10+ at minimal.

I understand you need to give people time in jail for crimes to deter them - but the severity of voter fraud needs to be emphasized heavily.

Also I've never seen a bigger moron on TV with his bullshit "Dur hur, I dun no wut happened, I dun had 2 strokes" defense

It's election fraud. it's way way way worse than voter fraud, and it's what the Repubs have specialized in for years. for fucking years...actually, it's why the Dixiecrats > Southern Republican takeover even happened, in direct response to the Voting Rights Act (from 1964-1972 or so), which was recently torpedoed by the very same republican assholes. ....I mean, is that inconvenient, the truth and all? Is that inconvenient? It's an honest question--it's the simple facts on the ground. It's the only base of truth for which this current reality exists. It is nothing else.

This is, quite simply, what the GOP has been doing in the south for GENERATIONS. IT isn't a fucking mystery. it's why the fucking Voting Rights Act exists and, herp a derpa fucking derpa doo--why as soon as these activist motherfuckers on SCOTUS gutted it, it all started happening again. It is not fucking other way. that is the fucking truth. full stop. end of fucking story.

I'm glad that you recognize this blatant skullduggery for what it is--and I also hope that you accept that this only happens because SCOTUS is loaded with activist conservative twats that have no other agenda but to repeat every fucking social freedom that this country fought and bled for against first our colonial oppressors, and the fucking slave owners of the south that dared to declare themselves true Americans. Any support of this current paradigm of SCOTUS, and such anti-social decisions is nothing less than unerring support of Confederate hegemony and rebellion against this nation's founding. It is nothing else.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Voter fraud, election fraud. I guess I equate voter fraud to illegal acts having to do with the voting process... You know, like illegal mail ballots?

I honestly don't give a shit which box you toss this into. Fine, election fraud I'm not debating what you call it.

worlds actually matter.

why don't you care?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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lulz. youtube longhair posts an animated video. I'm glad for you, I guess? that all it takes is for someone with an internet connection and some editing skills to inform you of, well, blatant lies, but whatever.

lol.

"Let's tell you something folks: the history that happened never happened, why? because I drew some pictures!" lol, this "thing" is just more of the "the blacks are perpetually enslaved by the democratic party policy" myth that is just preposterously defeated by any kind of reasonable observation of the people in front of you.

this is what you posted.
 
Nov 8, 2012
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This is, quite simply, what the GOP has been doing in the south for GENERATIONS. IT isn't a fucking mystery. it's why the fucking Voting Rights Act exists and, herp a derpa fucking derpa doo--why as soon as these activist motherfuckers on SCOTUS gutted it, it all started happening again. It is not fucking other way. that is the fucking truth. full stop. end of fucking story.

I'm glad that you recognize this blatant skullduggery for what it is--and I also hope that you accept that this only happens because SCOTUS is loaded with activist conservative twats that have no other agenda but to repeat every fucking social freedom that this country fought and bled for against first our colonial oppressors, and the fucking slave owners of the south that dared to declare themselves true Americans. Any support of this current paradigm of SCOTUS, and such anti-social decisions is nothing less than unerring support of Confederate hegemony and rebellion against this nation's founding. It is nothing else.

"Doing this for generations"? I don't doubt or agree with you, but I will ask if you can give me some insight to the history of election fraud? It's something so taboo to my mind that it's not something I haven't really ever heard of. Certainly not to say it doesn't exist. Also what does SCOTUS have to do with this ? Or are you dipping into voter related issues of things like requiring ID, etc?

But anyhow - We're talking about a typical dumbfuck DERPUBLICAN - and I simply don't identify with that shit. Maybe it's the atheist in me that despises anyone that is elected or trots around during election touting that they are christian, go to church, etc... But I find all of that appalling and entirely irrelevant to politics. I don't give a shit what your religion is. I don't give a shit who you fuck in bed. I simply care about your economic agenda and how educated you are.... and the more you talk about your religion during elections the more I think your economic intellect won't cut it. This man is the cream of the crop piece of shit that I honestly hope rots in prison for the rest of his life. The icing on the cake was the victim bullshit of saying he had strokes.