(Confirmed) Vote Tampering In North Carolina

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Amused

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This is why disillusioned Independents like me are so disgusted with politics. Republicans and Democrats need to stop tampering with votes and run a clean campaign.

They should run new candidates. And yes, voter fraud is real, and they are always stories about in urban areas. It needs to be addressed. Period.

What about both sides, amiright?
 

GettyRoad

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What about both sides, amiright?

Admit that your side has major problems. The fact that Hillary could not win states like PA, MI, WI shows that there is a problem. Fix it instead of getting cocky and overconfident in February 2019. If you think that Trump will lose reelection, you got a whole fucking lesson to learn about Middle America.
 

Amused

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Admit that your side has major problems. The fact that Hillary could not win states like PA, MI, WI shows that there is a problem. Fix it instead of getting cocky and overconfident in February 2019. If you think that Trump will lose reelection, you got a whole fucking lesson to learn about Middle America.

No. There is no evidence of coordinated, massive voter fraud outside of the case in NC. The real vote fixing is GOP gerrymandering and voter suppression.

Stop believing in conspiracy theories. They just prove how easily duped you are.
 

fskimospy

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Admit that your side has major problems. The fact that Hillary could not win states like PA, MI, WI shows that there is a problem. Fix it instead of getting cocky and overconfident in February 2019. If you think that Trump will lose reelection, you got a whole fucking lesson to learn about Middle America.

Odd that for someone who claims to be an independent you are arguing against a real, documented case of election fraud undertaken by Republicans with debunked conspiracy theories about Democrats.

Trump is the most enduringly unpopular president in history at this point. Maybe he wins re-election but I would bet if he does he won’t win the most votes. America doesn’t like him, the only thing that could save him is simply that some people’s votes count for more than others.
 

Jhhnn

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You just don't want to realize that the Democratic Party does shenanigans as well. There is a reason why the Democratic Party runs most of the urban enclaves in America, there is a Democratic machine. There is no Republican machine in the cities.

Gawd. That's like Trump's claim that they found 1M fraudulent votes in CA. Utter Bullshit.
 

Jhhnn

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Admit that your side has major problems. The fact that Hillary could not win states like PA, MI, WI shows that there is a problem. Fix it instead of getting cocky and overconfident in February 2019. If you think that Trump will lose reelection, you got a whole fucking lesson to learn about Middle America.

Duh-vert more.
 

trenchfoot

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Odd that for someone who claims to be an independent you are arguing against a real, documented case of election fraud undertaken by Republicans with debunked conspiracy theories about Democrats.

Trump is the most enduringly unpopular president in history at this point. Maybe he wins re-election but I would bet if he does he won’t win the most votes. America doesn’t like him, the only thing that could save him is simply that some people’s votes count for more than others.

Looks to be an "independent" with a decidedly "conservative lean" in attitude and beliefs. Methinks flying false flags seems to be in vogue since Trump took a dive in the swamp he said he was going to drain yet only restocked with a higher order of corrupt corporate crocs, constrictors and other such sundry slimeball critters.
 
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Paratus

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Admit that your side has major problems. The fact that Hillary could not win states like PA, MI, WI shows that there is a problem. Fix it instead of getting cocky and overconfident in February 2019. If you think that Trump will lose reelection, you got a whole fucking lesson to learn about Middle America.

Dems already admitted their mistakes. It was obvious they had fundamental problems after the 2016 election. The biggest one was actually running candidates everywhere and working to get out the vote.

The fixes worked and in a massive turnout republicans lost and lost big. Which isn’t that surprising since most of the policies they implement are fundamentally unpopular.

While the policies conservatives “say” the support like, restrained regulations, limited government where appropriate, and fiscal conservatism are good those aren’t the policies they implement when in office.

No the problem comes down to the GOP having major problems and conservatives voters such as yourself having thoroughly failed to address them.

You don’t force your candidates to adhere to the popular conservative policies instead allowing them to enact the ones popular only to a certain minority of conservatives . You don’t even vet each of your candidates for basic competence or positions compatible with our countries founding principles.

So when can we expect the GOP to address these problems?
 
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Just checking in to see if the usual right wingers have checked in? Nope? Shocker. Carry on.
I cruised the usual right wing sites and they are in lock step agreement. This is fine because the democrats engage in such wide spread voter fraud that this can’t possible cancel it out. I’m not kidding. That’s the reasoning they have come up with. Their delusions cancel out reality.


Edit: Holy shit I should have kept reading the thread before I replied. I see one of them found their way here.
 
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HomerJS

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This is why disillusioned Independents like me are so disgusted with politics. Republicans and Democrats need to stop tampering with votes and run a clean campaign.

They should run new candidates. And yes, voter fraud is real, and they are always stories about in urban areas. It needs to be addressed. Period.
That's your response? #bothsides bullshit.

You can't even admit Republicans enacted voter ID laws to disenfranchise minority voters even though it has been proven in court.

You can't even admit widespread voter problem is an insignificant problem. It exists in isolated cases but it hasen't effected any elections. That has also been proven in court.

You can't even admit GOP doesn't care about integrity of the vote when they enact these laws they just want to help their side just like this....
 
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CZroe

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I’m way behind but I saw this in the front page...

Why is it not related? It's speculated from the statistical oddity that the Republican candidate is getting more votes than they should in Bladen County. My half serious post was pointing out that Bladen County is the only one that didn't see a medium/large shift to the Democrats.
“The Republican candidate?” The displaced incumbent also had an (R) by his name.

If your post was to back up the assertion of the article then you have my sincere apology. That's not the way it comes across to be, thus my response.
Don’t apologize. Maxima1 was trying to miscast this into a Democrats versus Republicans thing when it wasn’t.
 

woolfe9998

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You just don't want to realize that the Democratic Party does shenanigans as well. There is a reason why the Democratic Party runs most of the urban enclaves in America, there is a Democratic machine. There is no Republican machine in the cities.

You have cause and effect backwards. There is a "democratic machine" as you call it because people in cities elect democrats. While people in rural areas elect republicans. It's a cultural thing.
 
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Maxima1

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I’m way behind but I saw this in the front page...


“The Republican candidate?” The displaced incumbent also had an (R) by his name.


Don’t apologize. Maxima1 was trying to miscast this into a Democrats versus Republicans thing when it wasn’t.

McCready = D. Or did something come up suggesting it only involved the primary? But then why would we be doing a reelection....?
 

kage69

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Caught red-handed trying to steal election in North Carolina.

Telling their own voters to go fvck themselves over approved Medicare expansion in Utah.

Losing in Wisconsin, limiting powers of office before leaving.

Republicans supporting Trump's illegitimate side-step of Congress' control of the purse.

The list goes on and on...



Pretty brazen, amazing stuff by the party of criminals and treason. 2020 should be an even greater crushing defeat for Trump than 2018, and the republicans will deserve every damn bit of it.
 
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CZroe

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McCready = D. Or did something come up suggesting it only involved the primary? But then why would we be doing a reelection....?
I’m commenting on your exchange with him up to that point when it was still about fraud between Republican versus Republican. If the re-election you’re talking about is also about R vs. R, perhaps those in charge are concerned about the integrity regardless? I dunno, but I don’t think a disenfranchised Republican candidate is just going to sit there and say “oh well” just because it was another Republican who stole the election from him.
 

Maxima1

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I’m commenting on your exchange with him up to that point when it was still about fraud between Republican versus Republican. If the re-election you’re talking about is also about R vs. R, perhaps those in charge are concerned about the integrity regardless? I dunno, but I don’t think a disenfranchised Republican candidate is just going to sit there and say “oh well” just because it was another Republican who stole the election from him.

Here's the first section of the OP article:

"Mounting evidence of fraud in North Carolina’s 9th Congressional District could indefinitely delay the certification of a winner, as state election officials investigate whether hundreds of absentee ballots were illegally cast or destroyed.

The North Carolina State Board of Elections and Ethics Enforcement has no plans to certify Republican Mark Harris’s 905-vote victory over Democrat Dan McCready, according to an agenda of a board meeting scheduled for Friday morning.

The board is collecting sworn statements from voters in rural Bladen and Robeson counties, near the South Carolina border, who described people coming to their doors and urging them to hand over their absentee ballots, sometimes without filling them out. Others described receiving absentee ballots by mail that they had not requested. It is illegal to take someone else’s ballot and turn it in.

Investigators are also scrutinizing unusually high numbers of absentee ballots cast in Bladen County, in both the general election and the May 8 primary, in which Harris defeated incumbent Rep. Robert Pittenger (R) by 828 votes. In the primary, Harris won 96 percent of all absentee ballots in Bladen, a far higher percentage than his win in the county overall — a statistic that this week is prompting fresh accusations of fraud. [...]"
 

zinfamous

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This is why disillusioned Independents like me are so disgusted with politics. Republicans and Democrats need to stop tampering with votes and run a clean campaign.

They should run new candidates. And yes, voter fraud is real, and they are always stories about in urban areas. It needs to be addressed. Period.

This is election fraud, not voter fraud.
 

hal2kilo

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That's your response? #bothsides bullshit.

You can't even admit Republicans enacted voter ID laws to disenfranchise minority voters even though it has been proven in court.

You can't even admit widespread voter problem is an insignificant problem. It exists in isolated cases but it hasen't effected any elections. That has also been proven in court.

You can't even admit GOP doesn't care about integrity of the vote when they enact these laws they just want to help their side just like this....
This goes way back in conservative/Repub culture.
Goo goo voters
 

zinfamous

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No one in NC wears a hat like that. No one. What the fuck is wrong with that guy?
 

VRAMdemon

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The quote from Mitch McConnell is hilarious. It's almost as if he's saying; we know there's election fraud going on, because we're doing it. And if we are, so are they.

"We only robbed that bank because the Democrats put money in it and did not have enough guards!

Impressive how McConnell finally pokes his head out of his shell long enough to remind anyone with firing neurons how much of a partisan toad he really is
 

jackstar7

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An endorsement from Harris should be a strike against the candidate.

Why would anyone even solicit such an endorsement?

"Hi, I got caught cheating, so I'm going to take a step back and not run again, but please trust this clown I think would be just as great a job in my stead."

Good luck, decent people of North Carolina.