Considering we are coming from the current 8th gen, a more reasonable 9th gen would be something like this:So be specific. What are you "disappointed" about? What do you want from this release? 10 cores, 12, 50? 6 ghz turbo? 300.00 price? Yes, the price is higher than AMD, but by all expectations, so is the performance. And just look at the other components of a build. You think 450.00 is expensive for a cpu? How about 1200.00 for a top end gpu? Honestly for a top end build, another hundred dollars for the cpu over Ryzen is a drop in the bucket.
Rumor is that Intel will not use HT on desktop anymore except on i9 chips.
There is still HT on high end, and on laptops, and Pentiums, and Xeons...The cynic says no HT because it makes patching the various Meltdown/Spectre/Foreshadow exploits that much easier.
The only things disappointing about the i9-9900k is that they're 14nm (again) and that they aren't Ice Lake.So be specific. What are you "disappointed" about?
Isn't it better for foreign price listings to compare relative prices instead of using direct conversion?
At those prices 9700K looks like the best bang for the buck for most workloadsIsn't it better for foreign price listings to compare relative prices instead of using direct conversion?
The same site lists the i7-8700k as 543 which could mean the 9700k will be cheaper than the 8700k.
I think 8 cores is most likely for the Desktop/Consumer 3000 series. Adding more complexity to the IF and topology adds more power consumption, and lowers max clocks.Again, not the way business operates. It isn't the epic fan battle that we see in forums. It's all spreadsheets for profit maximization.
So I guess you will be shocked if Desktop Ryzen 3000 series has only 8 cores. Lets put a pin in that and see what happens.
Speaking of that: Intel allegedly has 14nm supply problems. I don't know if it's a wafer shortage, or too many customers/too few dice, or Intel relying too heavily on binning to hit performance targets from 14nm++/+++, or whatever.Nah, just that 14++++++++++++++++++++ at work.
It's actually very easy to guess.Speaking of that: Intel allegedly has 14nm supply problems. I don't know if it's a wafer shortage, or too many customers/too few dice, or Intel relying too heavily on binning to hit performance targets from 14nm++/+++, or whatever.
Apple doesn't sell 200 million of the latest model in a year, FWIW.It's actually very easy to guess.
The answer? XMM 7560.
The XMM 7560 is an LTE modem using Intel's 14nm process. It goes into Apple's latest X series iPhones. Supposedly Intel is the sole supplier for the LTE modem.
That means, Intel needs to supply something like 200 million XMM 7560s to Apple. Considering the power Apple has over its suppliers, that likely needs to be guaranteed. Sacrificing a low end of a chipset to get that order working is a trivial deal. Needing to continue making 14nm CPUs just adds fuel to the fire.
200 million chips, even if the die size is pretty small at say 50mm2, are an absolutely enormous amount. If you assume Intel's average die size is 100mm2 and they sell ~250 million chips, Apple orders are going to take 30% of their entire wafer supply. Since the predecessor 7460 was on TSMC 28nm, that means this generation, they need to increase supply by 30% just for Apple.
Sources claim the next gen LTE modem, the 7660, was targeted at the 10nm process. I wonder if that has anything to do with the 10nm problems as well?
They might not, but Apple devices have a user base that upgrades rapidly and their older models are quickly deprecated. Also they have a halo status among smartphones.Apple doesn't sell 200 million of the latest model in a year, FWIW.
Oh hell. They're sharing fab space between those modems and Xeons, HEDT CPUs, and desktop CPUs? Are they crazy?It's actually very easy to guess.
The answer? XMM 7560.
Mid October? I thought the chip was supposed to launch in limited quantities (at least) in early October, e.g. one year after the 8700k. Somethin funny goin on there.Hardware Unboxed have the 9900k already, they showed it to the camera in their 2080 review. Won't release the benchmarks until mid October apparently.
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