Comments from within, May 1st rallies/boycott

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
If you work hard, speak English, abide by our laws, and seek citizenship, I don't really have a problem.

But its kind of maddening when you hear about 1-2 drunk driving fatalities per week (Maybe one week per month there isn't one), and damn near every week 1 of those is caused by an illegal Mexican. No, I'm not kidding or blowing it out of proportion.

Out of all the drunk driving related accidents how many are caused by illegal immigrants? per year

In my area, most are. It's not even close, apparently is culturally acceptible in Mexico.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Toasthead
If you are here illegally, you are a criminal. Its pretty easy.

Its not that hard to immigrate legally. MILLIONS have done it.

If it's so easy why don't you let everyone know the process, since you seem to know so much about it?

It's much harder to become a legal citizen here than most people think.

It's no harder than in most other countries I have been in. Regardless, it's no excuse- abide by the laws, become a citizen. Then try to change the rules if you wish.

 

[Unheard]

Originally posted by: darianandre
9.Am I fired? Will update later.
Update: I was not fired, our contract states that they can't fire me for not showing up, but they did enforce the voluntary quit rule, so I am out of a job.

Hooray for your job not being pussies and keeping to their policy.

 

[EatSpam]

I didn't attend a rally. I don't support illegal immigration. I fully support HR 4437.

 

[dnuggett]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
If you work hard, speak English, abide by our laws, and seek citizenship, I don't really have a problem.

But its kind of maddening when you hear about 1-2 drunk driving fatalities per week (Maybe one week per month there isn't one), and damn near every week 1 of those is caused by an illegal Mexican. No, I'm not kidding or blowing it out of proportion.

And on top of that the SOB didn't have insurance or call 911 for assitance for fear of deportation. You may be sheltered in Alabama but in the D/FW area this crap happens way too much.

 

[dnuggett]

I'm curious for those that attended the march or support this:

What rights, notice I said rights, should the criminals er illegal imigrants who cross our border have?

 

[robothouse77]

interesting poll results so far.........

 

[Extelleron]

The simple fact is, there does NOT need to be a poll, or opinions, or ANYTHING. It all boils down to ONE thing:

Illegal immigrants are breaking the law.

Those who break the law MUST be punished and shown that we will not allow ANYONE to break our laws! Imagine if we were like this with other crimes! Yes, illegal immigration is a CRIME. People who are here illegally are CRIMINALS and need to be treated as such.

I am NOT against Mexicans, or immigrants. I'm fine with them, like everyone in the United States my family has immigrated here. However, as almost all others, when my Great-Grandparents came here, they did so LEGALLY. If you want to come here legally, hey, I'm all for it. But those who feel they have to break the law, I have no respect for you. Either come here legally or get back to Mexico.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: Amused
Did I read all that?

Yes.

Did it change my mind?

No.

Don't come here illegally and you wont be treated like a criminal.

It really is that simple.

It's really not that simple, just b/c you commit a crime, doesn't mean you should be treated like a criminal. It's not that black & white.

that makes absolutely no sense. It is black & white, no matter how you want to spin it.

Actually it does. I usually use the speeding analogy to make it easy for the general public to understand. I know you're smart so I'll cut the bullsh!t, there are different levels of severity within in a crime. The punishment doesn't fit the crime if this bill where to take affect.

If you think it does, then I suggest the very same thing Mill did, there is a underlying agenda against the race of these people. Simple as that.

speeding != sneaking into another country illegally.

Lies? :roll:

You're missing the point. More money is spent on the outcomes of excessive speeding then illegal immirgration, more deaths, yet everyone seems to be worried about losing their non-skilled jobs.

Im not saying we should just open the gates and let them come. They shouldn't be here, but they are. The system is fvcked and the only answer you can come up with it to boot them? Creative...

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara
I don't think alot of people can appreciate how difficult it is to become a legal citizen of the states. My best friend moved to Phoenix, AZ from Canada due to financial reasons when he was about 9 years old. He still hasn't got his green card yet and he just turned 20.

His family has incurred SIGNIFICANT expense to keep their application going, each year they have to return to Vancouver to visit the American Consulate to check in with them, that flight alone costs them $2000 dollars, and they moved down there because they were financially strained, though that is not the case now.

He did not qualify for any scholarships because he was not an american citizen when his college applications were reviewed, and he cannot legally get a job there as the VISA that his parents came in on only allows them to work. So my friend has to return to Vancouver to work each summer.

The system itself is broken, and that just doesn't include the United States, but Canada as well. We have boatloads of poor assed Chinese, who we have to feed, and shelter A few years ago a public audit was done and it said that it was costing the province $100 dollars a day to keep these people in lockup. These people are scum, but there is no way that the average person could manage to live in the states for 12 years without a good job and be expected to survive long enough to get a green card.

Thankfully enough my friends grandmother and step grandfather are quite wealthy down there.

The system is broken, the people are scum for coming here illegally, but there is no chance to come here legally. It's just like the health system, so damaged we can't possible concieve how to properly fix it.

Cheers.

I have to disagree with you about there being no chance of coming here legally. I do agree that the system is broken and needs to be completely revamped. A simple name change (INS -> BCIS -> USCIS -> @(#$A(@# ) is not going to fix anything.
My wife came here legally on a student visa and then we got married here. It's been about 3 or so years and it took about 2 years to get her green card. My parents came here legally over 30 years ago. Why should these people get to skip the process? Just because they snuck over here awhile back?
Personally, I don't think they should get citizenship but sending them back isn't the answer as well. Tough situation

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: robothouse77
interesting poll results so far.........

Herndon, Virginia held their town elections on Tuesday. Every politician that supported the Day Labor center was voted out of office.

 

[Specop 007]

It disgusts me people like the OP, who are law abiding citizens, are supporting CRIMINALS!

Makes me think we need to deport alot more then just the criminals, but those who aid and support them.
That IS considered an accessory to the crime when dealing with other crimes, but not this??

 

[Queasy]

PowerLine has video from inside the protests in NYC, Denver, and elsewhere.

 

[J0hnny]

Sorry to hear that they enforced the voluntary quit policy.

 

[moshquerade]

i wonder how many others lost their jobs for not showing up to work or how many students were written up for truancy.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: darianandre
4.Religious leaders spoke at rally, mentioned statement in Bible about treating foreigners on your land as you would want to be treated.

Yeah? How come that only applies to the United States?

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i wonder how many others lost their jobs for not showing up to work or how many students were written up for truancy.

i would hope ALL

 

[JS80]

your ass deserves to get fired, not be voluntary quitted

 

[dahunan]

If 10 million Asians descended on Mexico you guys would get pissed off

 

[Electric Amish]

(Don't care) x (infinity)


Just another one of Bush's smoke screens to take the focus off of Iraq.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: darianandre
4.Religious leaders spoke at rally, mentioned statement in Bible about treating foreigners on your land as you would want to be treated.

Yeah? How come that only applies to the United States?

What did they say about foreigners who come uninvited? Aren't those no longer foreigners and considered trespassers?

What about foreigners who demand dual citizenship and demand social services of non-foreigners

BTW, everyone who pays taxes in the USA is not a Christian

 

[SampSon]

These people need to file legal immigration papers and wait in line like everyone else.
I do not understand how they can even begin to justify how they deserve to just walk into this country and become a citizen.

Why is it that people expect America to have wide open borders and easy entry, while other countries have strict immigration laws?

These "immigrants" need to follow the laws (wether they like it or not, and how bad their current situation in their own country doesn't mean sh!t), they need to assimilate into American culture (creating a spanish american national anthem is a total insult), they need to drop their ridiculous sense of entitlement (you don't deserve a goddamned thing from this country), they need to stop claiming that we NEED them to do work, they need to play the game fair or get the fvck out.

 

[da loser]

ILLEGAL go home

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: robothouse77
interesting poll results so far.........

the silent majority doesn't like law breakers let alone those who flaunt it and make demands. never mind they run around with mexican flags while chanting in spanish. but the silent majority isn't going to go out a protest about it. and the media trying to be politically correct/not "mean" isn't going to do much on this. the picture painted by the media is far too rosy. there are huge problems with immigration. drugs/crime. driving down wages and devaluing certain lines of work so americans won't do it. you still hear people yap about social security taxes from illegals and thats just disengenuous, sorry no you can't get high taxes from low wages. all the ss taxes taken from illegals couldn't even pay for the education of illegals children in just california, let alone all the other services they use. illegal immigrants and their cheap labour is like walmart, cheap front end costs, with huge hidden back end costs the tax payer and society have to pay.

 

[0roo0roo]

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