Colbert: Yet another media capitulation

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K1052

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Yeah, we can be big mad at this because the majority was so slim. Give big majorities and these edge cases tend to go away because there are more people to do political horse trading with.

Regardless, I'd take dozen Joe Manchins over a dozen Susan "I'm Concerned" Collinses.

Yes, the literal coal baron voted for the biggest climate bill in US history.
 

thilanliyan

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My wallet tells no tales. I can't see the damn doctor because the first 3,000 comes out of pocket. And if that doesn't work they pull the "we are not paying for that" card.

I got stuck with a $4000 medical bill in 2023 because they did not approve of the standard treatment. They needed the money to buy back stock.

After 1 of its executives was killed, United Healthcare got the message and is approving more claims.

Unfortunately, insane profits and stock buybacks are down as a result and now shareholders are suing led by Black Rock.
Stop voting for the people who like the status quo, and maybe your healthcare bills will go down.
 

NWRMidnight

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My wallet tells no tales. I can't see the damn doctor because the first 3,000 comes out of pocket. And if that doesn't work they pull the "we are not paying for that" card.

I got stuck with a $4000 medical bill in 2023 because they did not approve of the standard treatment. They needed the money to buy back stock.

After 1 of its executives was killed, United Healthcare got the message and is approving more claims.

Unfortunately, insane profits and stock buybacks are down as a result and now shareholders are suing led by Black Rock.
You are such an ignorant fuck.. I guess I should be blaming Obama/The ACA for the $6,000 out of pocket I had to pay from a near $30,000 in total care costs, after insurance for kindney stones, from start to finish, that included surgical removal in 2013 (United Health). the hospital/surgical room (4 hours total time in the building) cost $20k alone. Oh wait.. that was 2 years before the ACA was even signed into law. Who should I blame for that, since it's clearly was not caused by Obama/ACA issue?

Now, in 2018, I had some heart issues, that included two trips to the ER, and a lot of testing... total cost of care, when all was said and done was over $40,000. I paid $250 out of pocket total because my current employer (not the same employer as in 2013) provided health plan (also United Health) which is 100% paid by them, is a cadilac high level plan, thanks to our union negotiators. How the fuck did I pay only $250 out of pocket if the ACA causes or rather forces as you imply, high out of pocket costs due to YOUR/MY plan deductables/coverage?

It's sad, you are so ignorant, you don't even realize that during your rant, you showed exactly who is causing what you are upset about, and it has NOTHING to do with the ACA.
 
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FelixDeCat

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You are such an ignorant fuck.. I guess I should be blaming Obama/The ACA for the $6,000 out of pocket I had to pay from a near $30,000 in total care costs, after insurance for kindney stones, from start to finish, that included surgical removal in 2013 (United Health). the hospital/surgical room (4 hours total time in the building) cost $20k alone. Oh wait.. that was 2 years before the ACA was even signed into law. Who should I blame for that, since it's clearly was not caused by Obama/ACA issue?

Now, in 2018, I had some heart issues, that included two trips to the ER, and a lot of testing... total cost of care, when all was said and done was over $40,000. I paid $250 out of pocket total because my current employer (not the same employer as in 2013) provided health plan (also United Health) which is 100% paid by them, is a cadilac high level plan, thanks to our union negotiators. How the fuck did I pay only $250 out of pocket if the ACA causes or rather forces as you imply, high out of pocket costs due to YOUR/MY plan deductables/coverage?

It's sad, you are so ignorant, you don't even realize that during your rant, you showed exactly who is causing what you are upset about, and it has NOTHING to do with the ACA.
Exception is not the rule.

I did not have to worry about denials or high costs prior to Obamacare. Insurers have learned how to game the system to their benefit. Luigi did not take that action lightly. He took action because abuse by insurers is widespread and malignant. They dont pay for shit if they can get away with it.

Socialize medicine and none of this matters.
 

Indus

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Exception is not the rule.

I did not have to worry about denials or high costs prior to Obamacare. Insurers have learned how to game the system to their benefit. Luigi did not take that action lightly. He took action because abuse by insurers is widespread and malignant. They dont pay for shit if they can get away with it.

Socialize medicine and none of this matters.

Why don't you just move across the border to Mexico and get cheaper healthcare there?

Hell if you want even cheaper travel to Dubai, Turkey, India for medical tourism.

I have a MAGA neighbor who still thinks Obama is the devil and will not get Obamacare even though he qualifies for it. He went to India and got a triple bypass done for $6000 total.

Imagine the cost here..
 

NWRMidnight

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Exception is not the rule.

I did not have to worry about denials or high costs prior to Obamacare. Insurers have learned how to game the system to their benefit. Luigi did not take that action lightly. He took action because abuse by insurers is widespread and malignant. They dont pay for shit if they can get away with it.

Socialize medicine and none of this matters.
First bold type: It's funny you say that while not realizing, You where the exception before the ACA. Most people where paying higher insurance premiums and higher out of pocket long before the ACA, with substantial increases per year. The increases where reduced after the ACA. They actually went down the first two years then they started to increase again, but at a slower rate.

Second bold type: You don't say! That's twice now you claim it's the ACA, yet indicate that it's something else, with you being more specific this time. It's baffling you are not getting the connection, and keep pointing the finger at the ACA.
 
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mikeymikec

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He gave us the health care mess we have now.

Trump promised to fix it, but he lied.

Won't someone please just socialize medicine? I was against it, now I demand it!

Health care should be non profit.

FDC, you really don't have to chime in with your irrelevant nonsense, Grandpa Simpson has done it all already:

 
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