I hate people here who act like politicians and give the most partisan arguments to every issue raised. Do you just come here to act out your fantasies of becoming a politician? What is the point? We're not swaying any votes here so just be honest. Here, I'll go first. I don't think Palin is ready. I think Obama has a thin resume but that he has shown over the past couple years a depth of knowledge on the issues and an ability to make others have faith in his competence and trust him to lead, as well as an amazing rhetorical ability that is essential for a President, who often times has to rely on the bully pulpit to get anything done. That is my honest opinion, so cut the bullshit (not just Corbett but everyone) and start giving yours.
Corbett ... I really mean no offence to you .. and if you want to decline to answer the question you can simply state so ..
However ..
I didnt ask you to evaluate Mrs Palin with Mr. Obama as i am not going to venture to guess what you think his readiness is ..
What i want to know is your "exclusive" evaluation of Sarah Palin in regards to the presidency of the United States.. Not in relation to anyone ..
Can you answer the question please .. ? Objectively ...
Thank you .
However ..
I didnt ask you to evaluate Mrs Palin with Mr. Obama as i am not going to venture to guess what you think his readiness is ..
What i want to know is your "exclusive" evaluation of Sarah Palin in regards to the presidency of the United States.. Not in relation to anyone ..
Can you answer the question please .. ? Objectively ...
Thank you .
OrByte
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Back on topic, there is nothing wrong with how the article is written, and how the CNN interviewer represents the article from national review:
GRIFFIN: Governor, you've been mocked in the press, the press has been pretty hard on you, the Democrats have been pretty hard on you, but also some conservatives have been pretty hard on you as well. The National Review had a story saying that, you know, I can't tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt or all of the above.
PALIN: Who wrote that one?
GRIFFIN: That was in the National Review. I don't have the author.
PALIN: I'd like to talk to that person.
GRIFFIN: But they were talking about the fact that your experience as governor is not getting out. Do you feel trapped in this campaign, that your message is not getting out, and if so who do you blame?
1. The National Review did have an article that DID STATE those words
2. The interviewer provided a synopsis of the article which essentially captures the jest of the National Review piece.
Important parts bolded.
for what its worth, I think the CNN interviewer skated the "truthiness" line by implying and assigning those words to the National Review writer when in fact the author was making an observation about the media.
But every word as stated is true. The NR article did state those words, and the article synopsis is correct.
Its almost like the CNN interviewer has been studying Alberto Gonzales and Don Rumsfield waaaay too much.
GRIFFIN: Governor, you've been mocked in the press, the press has been pretty hard on you, the Democrats have been pretty hard on you, but also some conservatives have been pretty hard on you as well. The National Review had a story saying that, you know, I can't tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt or all of the above.
PALIN: Who wrote that one?
GRIFFIN: That was in the National Review. I don't have the author.
PALIN: I'd like to talk to that person.
GRIFFIN: But they were talking about the fact that your experience as governor is not getting out. Do you feel trapped in this campaign, that your message is not getting out, and if so who do you blame?
1. The National Review did have an article that DID STATE those words
2. The interviewer provided a synopsis of the article which essentially captures the jest of the National Review piece.
Important parts bolded.
for what its worth, I think the CNN interviewer skated the "truthiness" line by implying and assigning those words to the National Review writer when in fact the author was making an observation about the media.
But every word as stated is true. The NR article did state those words, and the article synopsis is correct.
Its almost like the CNN interviewer has been studying Alberto Gonzales and Don Rumsfield waaaay too much.
JohnOfSheffield
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I honestly don't think you do.
Do you really think that Spain is an enemy and Pakistan is an ally?
Do you really think that someone who denies all 17-21 century science is a sane human being, do you actually believe that Jesus walked around with "Jesus horses" (dinos, Jesus Horses comes from Hovind)
She denies reality, is that ... wait, you still support Bush... crap, i'm wasting my time.
The sighing laugh is quite telling. She was clearly over matched and trying to defend the indefensible.
Of course Corbett can't answer that question.
Sarah Palin cannot, to this day, even define what the Vice President's role is according to our Constitution. It is absolutely unbelievable that we have a candidate running for the 2nd highest position of our nation who doesn't even understand the job description.
Sarah Palin cannot, to this day, even define what the Vice President's role is according to our Constitution. It is absolutely unbelievable that we have a candidate running for the 2nd highest position of our nation who doesn't even understand the job description.
You're not going to get me to argue a case for why McCain and Palin are the perfect choice for President/VP. I consider them the lesser evils of the two choices. In light of that, the only way for me to answer your question is to say that I believe given the choices I am given this election cycle, I believe Palin is more qualified and more ready to become President than Barack Obama.
Why? I hear this, but never really hear anyone explain their positions. What criteria are you using to evaluate a potential leader that leaves you with this conclusion?
Like what? Ignoring all the smears against Palin and Obama, what precisely hits that magical mark for you that determines she's more qualified than Obama? Is it strictly the number of years of service? The impact of her decisions?
Talking points like "She challenged corruption" don't count as they're not really quantitative.
From what I've read, I don't think it's difficult to support that she seems to be a relatively effective governor for Alaska, but I would like to know how in your mind this translates to a national and international level.
This isn't bait. I'm just trying to cut the noise out of the issue and see what people really think.
I's say its a few things. She has executive experience. She has a history of fighting corruption. Shes a social and fiscal conservative. Shes fought pork and "politics as usual" in her own state. She's a reformer.
What is does that mean? Exactly?
How so? Can you provide documents to support this claim?
How so? Please define the things she has done to cut spending. Please define social conservative.
You mean like the "bridge to nowhere"?
What did she reform? Exactly?
I see a lot of "buzzwords" but not much proof.
JohnOfSheffield
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Well she likes Jesus-Horses and Corbett LOVES Jesus-Horses.
Wait.... i'm agreeing with PC... WTH is wrong now...
JohnOfSheffield
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Corbett ...
I am disappointed that you cannot give a straight answer to a very simple question without comparing the candidates. I guess ill take it that you are either ashamed to "Fully" support your candidate publicly or simply someone who cannot have an honest and reasonable discussion with anyone. While it is clearly obvious that this board has a Democratic tilt i was hoping that through all the crap that goes on in this board Some level of respectable non BS discourse could be reached. The fact that you feel it necessary to dance around a very narrow question as it was presented gives me the impression that i may need to try to engage someone else in effective and objective discussion..
In any case good luck to you and your candidate.
I am disappointed that you cannot give a straight answer to a very simple question without comparing the candidates. I guess ill take it that you are either ashamed to "Fully" support your candidate publicly or simply someone who cannot have an honest and reasonable discussion with anyone. While it is clearly obvious that this board has a Democratic tilt i was hoping that through all the crap that goes on in this board Some level of respectable non BS discourse could be reached. The fact that you feel it necessary to dance around a very narrow question as it was presented gives me the impression that i may need to try to engage someone else in effective and objective discussion..
In any case good luck to you and your candidate.
JohnOfSheffield
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JohnOfSheffield
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I thought it was common knowledge?
If Palin wins and Brown is in office, i'm emigrating to Japan.
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