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CNN Demonizes Vaping

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Most people that vape don't do it in public places at least I don't. I would never do that and haven't seen many do it either. If I'm at a bar and I feel like going out to puff I go outside where the rest are smoking. Isn't that what most people do? No one is spewing crap in your face if its outside, being done where everything else is too.
 
Most people that vape don't do it in public places at least I don't. I would never do that and haven't seen many do it either. If I'm at a bar and I feel like going out to puff I go outside where the rest are smoking. Isn't that what most people do? No one is spewing crap in your face if its outside, being done where everything else is too.

That's fine with me.

The problem is some people are defending smokingvaping inside the workplace or in public places, and a few are going as far as to suggest that since the non-nicotine-containing formulations don't necessarily have to be extremely harmful, it's fine for kids to do it too.
 
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That's fine with me.

The problem is some people are defending smokingvaping inside the workplace or in public places, and a few are going as far as to suggest that since the non-nicotine-containing formulations don't necessarily have to be extremely harmful, it's fine for kids to do it too.
When I first started vaping I used to think its fine to do it in public areas. But I've noticed things like when I visit my mother, if I vape at her place she gets annoyed sometimes. Doesn't like the smell, etc. So I've just kept it to myself and realized its better to just use the thing in the car, at home, or outdoors.

My younger brother and sister thought it was like a hookah and always asked me if they could try it. My brother asked if I would buy him one and I said hell no. My father is a smoker and from middle eastern background so we had a hookah at home but it wasn't for us to use growing up.

Vapor is safer than smoking but doesn't mean kids should jump on it. One vape shop I go to had a mother trying to buy a device for her son and the owner refused to sell it to her. He wasn't 18 yet either. I thought it was ridiculous that she didn't vape herself and wanted to get her kid one. I just didn't get the point unless the kid was smoking cigs at the time.
 
When I first started vaping I used to think its fine to do it in public areas. But I've noticed things like when I visit my mother, if I vape at her place she gets annoyed sometimes. Doesn't like the smell, etc. So I've just kept it to myself and realized its better to just use the thing in the car, at home, or outdoors.

My younger brother and sister thought it was like a hookah and always asked me if they could try it. My brother asked if I would buy him one and I said hell no. My father is a smoker and from middle eastern background so we had a hookah at home but it wasn't for us to use growing up.

Vapor is safer than smoking but doesn't mean kids should jump on it. One vape shop I go to had a mother trying to buy a device for her son and the owner refused to sell it to her. He wasn't 18 yet either. I thought it was ridiculous that she didn't vape herself and wanted to get her kid one. I just didn't get the point unless the kid was smoking cigs at the time.

Imagine flavored cigarettes without the tobacco, nicotine or any drugs... imagine drinking beer or wine without the alcohol. Same thing. TASTE, FEEL, LOOK, AMUSEMENT, WHATEVER.

I don't vape but if you're not vaping any drugs, I can't see any issue with it.
 
Imagine flavored cigarettes without the tobacco, nicotine or any drugs... imagine drinking beer or wine without the alcohol. Same thing. TASTE, FEEL, LOOK, AMUSEMENT, WHATEVER.

I don't vape but if you're not vaping any drugs, I can't see any issue with it.
Yea I'll agree with that. When I stop using nicotine soon I'll just be using it for the habit and flavor/amusement.
 
Imagine flavored cigarettes without the tobacco, nicotine or any drugs... imagine drinking beer or wine without the alcohol. Same thing. TASTE, FEEL, LOOK, AMUSEMENT, WHATEVER.

I don't vape but if you're not vaping any drugs, I can't see any issue with it.
If you're 18, fine. If you're not 18, then no.

And no, it's not the same as drinking liquids without alcohol. You're inhaling substances, substances which were not developed to be inhaled in the first place.
 
Same thing. Don't want to breathe your smoke or your vapors.

There's zero proof that breathing vapor can cause any harm what-so-ever. It's understandable if you hate the smell of it. I hate the smell of coffee, it makes me nauseous. But I'm not stupid enough to think that's reason enough people shouldn't be able to drink it in public.

Smoke lingers and can stay on you, vaping might smell bad to you, but it doesn't linger and you aren't left smelling like it.
 
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Even if Vaping is completely harmless in a second hand inhalation sense, it is still rude to be pumping plumes of vapour in peoples faces. Think of it this way, it would be like using mouthwash and making sure everyone around you could smell your minty freshness by blowing your breath at them. No one wants that from some random stranger.

The fact that Vapers(I'm trying to switch to it myself) thought they could vape anywhere is, IMO, based upon a misunderstanding. They thought that the particular toxins in tobacco smoke was what the non-Smoker objected to and in fact at one time that would have been true. However, what has transpired in the last few decades is that non-Smokers have become acclimatized to not having visible exhalations invade their space, as it were. So even if vaping has no harmful affect to their health(yet to be determined how harmful or not), they still have a sense of being intruded upon. As such, Vaping should be treated the same way Smoking is, by Vapers themselves.

All that said, it should be noted that anyone who breathes in deeply and exhales in public is basically affecting the air in the exact same way a Smoker/Vaper is, in the Physical sense. Just something to consider, especially if one contracts a Contagious ailment and insists on going to Work/School/Public locations.
 
Even if Vaping is completely harmless in a second hand inhalation sense, it is still rude to be pumping plumes of vapour in peoples faces. Think of it this way, it would be like using mouthwash and making sure everyone around you could smell your minty freshness by blowing your breath at them. No one wants that from some random stranger.

I see people vaping all the time, and have never seen one of them blow it in another persons face. When people are near me and vaping I can smell the vapor, but it's nowhere close to in my face. People at my work eat disgusting ass smelling Indian food that stinks up the whole place, that should be banned too imho.
 
I see people vaping all the time, and have never seen one of them blow it in another persons face. When people are near me and vaping I can smell the vapor, but it's nowhere close to in my face. People at my work eat disgusting ass smelling Indian food that stinks up the whole place, that should be banned too imho.
Amen to that on the Indian food and especially some of the fishy stuff some people bring.
 
We also have a no perfume or cologne policy at our workplace, for which I am very grateful.
I like that. Luckily at my workplace the demographics mean there's more likely to be a BO problem than a cologne problem. Hmm, is that better or worse LOL.
 
I see people vaping all the time, and have never seen one of them blow it in another persons face. When people are near me and vaping I can smell the vapor, but it's nowhere close to in my face. People at my work eat disgusting ass smelling Indian food that stinks up the whole place, that should be banned too imho.

Nope, they should be required to share. That stuff is awesome. :biggrin:
 
Nope, they should be required to share. That stuff is awesome. :biggrin:

I'd rather be forced to hot box with 20 smokers all day every day until I die from lung cancer than smell Indian food for 30 straight days. It might taste good, I dunno since I can't bring myself to eat it. I do know the smell is beyond disgusting. I don't even eat my own lunch there because every time I smell theirs my gag reflexes kick in. It's sad that many work places have a no cologne or perfume rule, but they can't have a no Indiana food rule.

ugh just thinking about how it smells is making me queasy.
 
I'd rather be forced to hot box with 20 smokers all day every day until I die from lung cancer than smell Indian food for 30 straight days. It might taste good, I dunno since I can't bring myself to eat it. I do know the smell is beyond disgusting. I don't even eat my own lunch there because every time I smell theirs my gag reflexes kick in. It's sad that many work places have a no cologne or perfume rule, but they can't have a no Indiana food rule.

ugh just thinking about how it smells is making me queasy.

Try it. 😉
 
I drove through a dusty gravel and dirt parking lot today with my window down. I had to roll my window up because those filthy heathens in front of me thought it was OK to make me breathe their harmful dust that was coating my lungs and the inside of my car. There should be a law!

This sounds like people hiding their heads in the sand. I guess you're OK with 12 year olds vaping then.


Nope. Studies are on-going. You can't just imagine that there's a problem and behave like there is a problem and act like people are ignoring that there is a problem with NO HINT WHAT-SO-EVER that there is a problem.


That's fine with me.

The problem is some people are defending smokingvaping inside the workplace or in public places, and a few are going as far as to suggest that since the non-nicotine-containing formulations don't necessarily have to be extremely harmful, it's fine for kids to do it too.

Is office candy illegal?


Even if Vaping is completely harmless in a second hand inhalation sense, it is still rude to be pumping plumes of vapour in peoples faces. Think of it this way, it would be like using mouthwash and making sure everyone around you could smell your minty freshness by blowing your breath at them. No one wants that from some random stranger.

The fact that Vapers(I'm trying to switch to it myself) thought they could vape anywhere is, IMO, based upon a misunderstanding. They thought that the particular toxins in tobacco smoke was what the non-Smoker objected to and in fact at one time that would have been true. However, what has transpired in the last few decades is that non-Smokers have become acclimatized to not having visible exhalations invade their space, as it were. So even if vaping has no harmful affect to their health(yet to be determined how harmful or not), they still have a sense of being intruded upon. As such, Vaping should be treated the same way Smoking is, by Vapers themselves.

All that said, it should be noted that anyone who breathes in deeply and exhales in public is basically affecting the air in the exact same way a Smoker/Vaper is, in the Physical sense. Just something to consider, especially if one contracts a Contagious ailment and insists on going to Work/School/Public locations.

So it should be illegal because people with psychosomatic issues THINK there's a problem with it? Do we have to stop using electricity and cellphones because some idiot in Albuquerque once felt pain when he THOUGHT he was being exposed to electromagnetic fields?!


I'd rather be forced to hot box with 20 smokers all day every day until I die from lung cancer than smell Indian food for 30 straight days. It might taste good, I dunno since I can't bring myself to eat it. I do know the smell is beyond disgusting. I don't even eat my own lunch there because every time I smell theirs my gag reflexes kick in. It's sad that many work places have a no cologne or perfume rule, but they can't have a no Indiana food rule.

ugh just thinking about how it smells is making me queasy.

See?
Psychosomatic.
 
I drove through a dusty gravel and dirt parking lot today with my window down. I had to roll my window up because those filthy heathens in front of me thought it was OK to make me breathe their harmful dust that was coating my lungs and the inside of my car. There should be a law!




Nope. Studies are on-going. You can't just imagine that there's a problem and behave like there is a problem and act like people are ignoring that there is a problem with NO HINT WHAT-SO-EVER that there is a problem.




Is office candy illegal?




So it should be illegal because people with psychosomatic issues THINK there's a problem with it? Do we have to stop using electricity and cellphones because some idiot in Albuquerque once felt pain when he THOUGHT he was being exposed to electromagnetic fields?!




See?
Psychosomatic.

"Illegal"? Not at all.
 
Nope. Studies are on-going. You can't just imagine that there's a problem and behave like there is a problem and act like people are ignoring that there is a problem with NO HINT WHAT-SO-EVER that there is a problem.
Smokers/vapers act like the 20th century never happened. We went through this horseshit with smoking and we are not going to start at square one with vaping. Prove it's safe first or fuck off.
 
Smokers/vapers act like the 20th century never happened. We went through this horseshit with smoking and we are not going to start at square one with vaping. Prove it's safe first or fuck off.

I vape and I don't pretend the 21st century never happened. I can't prove it's safe. Go fuck yourself.
 
Smokers/vapers act like the 20th century never happened. We went through this horseshit with smoking and we are not going to start at square one with vaping. Prove it's safe first or fuck off.


You know what else happened? The 18th century and the U.S. Constitution. You don't have to prove something is safe for it to be legal and it has never been the government's job to keep us from harming ourselves. It's their job to preserve liberty by keeping me from illegally infringing on someone else's liberty. If there is no proof that it is not safe or disruptive to the liberties of those around then then they CANNOT legally intervene. That isn't going to stop nanny jurisdictions from passing laws where people who share your mindset forget how freedom is supposed to work, but that is the outline.

Prove that it's not safe for bystanders before you use the "bystanders are FORCED to breathe it!" excuse. I am not a smoker/caper, so don't imply that it explains how I "act."
 
Didn't read but it's both creepy and douchey. It's not any different than heroin users shooting up in public. Seriously, damn underclass drug addicts need to GTFO.
 
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