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Clinton to hand over email server to FBI

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I'm sure the fishing expedition isn't going to end anytime soon.

Whitewater turned into an Impeachment over a blowjob. It's their MO.

Well, maybe this time they can get her for Foster.

Ben Ghazi!!!!

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nickqt

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Well, maybe this time they can get her for Foster.

Ben Ghazi!!!!

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Actually, Benghazi(!) = Email Scandal(!) = Whatever they can find to make her look as bad as possible.

I mean, I don't blame them, given the fact that any Republican running for President has an uphill battle with the Electoral College. But, it doesn't change the fact that this is what it is.

Colin Powell, the criminal mastermind, also used his own email server. I'm waiting for the subpoenas to drop any minute...
 

Jhhnn

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The Clintons paid a federal employee to maintain the server. This is possibly a criminal offense on the part of the employee. If maintaining the server was truly government work then the employee was double dipping, which is illegal. If the work was not government work then the employee was taking employment with what was almost certainly a prohibited source (the Clintons). The scandal just went from "not much" to a what is very likely to be a career ending investigation for the employee. The Clintons will likely slip past it.

Really, really reaching with that. It wasn't a govt server, it was the Clinton's private server. Whatever the Clintons do with it places no liability on the person who set it up.

It's called a side job. Just because they guy gets a paycheck from the govt doesn't mean they have exclusive use of his talents.
 

IronWing

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Really, really reaching with that. It wasn't a govt server, it was the Clinton's private server. Whatever the Clintons do with it places no liability on the person who set it up.

It's called a side job. Just because they guy gets a paycheck from the govt doesn't mean they have exclusive use of his talents.
If the employee worked for the State Dept. then working side jobs for his boss is a Bozo no-no. If the person's regular job was to provide IT support for the State Dept. and the server was being used for official business, which appears to be the case, the employee was collecting both a government salary and a private payment to do the government work, another Bozo no-no.

Start here.
Then read here.
 

Jhhnn

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If the employee worked for the State Dept. then working side jobs for his boss is a Bozo no-no. If the person's regular job was to provide IT support for the State Dept. and the server was being used for official business, which appears to be the case, the employee was collecting both a government salary and a private payment to do the government work, another Bozo no-no.

Start here.
Then read here.

Hogwash. The boss wants somebody to set up their private email server & is willing to pay. The guy sets it up, gets paid. What the Clintons use it for later is not his problem. It's just a private email server, like millions of others.

Sucking up to the boss isn't a crime.
 

boomerang

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So we've reached the stage where the Clinton machine has started sacrificing to the federal volcano in hopes that the big Kahuna can stay above the fray.
 

IronWing

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Hogwash. The boss wants somebody to set up their private email server & is willing to pay. The guy sets it up, gets paid. What the Clintons use it for later is not his problem. It's just a private email server, like millions of others.

Sucking up to the boss isn't a crime.
For federal employees, it is.
 

IronWing

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Neither of your links support that contention. He obviously had official permission to do the job, straight from the SoS.
If he did and he can prove it, Hillary is finished. Either Hillary paid the guy private funds to carry out government work or she paid a subordinate to do a side job, not related to government work. Either one of those is illegal.

Clinton may have made Biden's decision a slam dunk.
 
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Jhhnn

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If he did and he can prove it, Hillary is finished. Either Hillary paid the guy private funds to carry out government work or she paid a subordinate to do a side job, not related to government work. Either one of those is illegal.

Clinton may have made Biden's decision a slam dunk.

You have not shown that doing a side job is illegal. You merely contend that it is.
 

ivwshane

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For federal employees, it is.

Is he a federal employee? What's his official job? Also, when did he set up Hilary's server? Before or after she became SoS? If it was before she became a federal employee did she already establish a contract with him for his services?
 
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Jhhnn

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Is he a federal employee? What's his official job? Also, when did he set up Hilary's server? Before or after she became SoS? If it was before she became a federal employee did she already establish a contract with him for his services?

Why follow down that rabbit hole? none of it matters if the providing of such services is legal.
 

ivwshane

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Why follow down that rabbit hole? none of it matters if the providing of such services is legal.

The links he provided seem to indicate the opposite but only under certain circumstances, which is why I asked the questions I did.

What this has to do with Clinton and by extension benghazi (which I must remind everyone, is the whole point of looking into this email/server biz), I have no idea. But if I'm going to dismiss something I'll do it based off of facts. Iron can either provide the necessary data or retreat.
 

ivwshane

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Hmm...
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/2015/09/06/us-usa-election-clinton-staffer-idUSKCN0R50LU20150906

Campaign spokesman Nick Merrill said on Twitter: "Bryan was hired by the Clinton family as a consultant in order to help out periodically with the management of the system in Chappaqua that hosted the family's emails."

Chappaqua is the New York town where Clinton lives.

The Washington Post earlier reported the Clintons paid Pagliano $5,000 for computer services before he joined the State Department, citing an April 2009 financial disclosure form he filed.

Even after he arrived at the State Department in May 2009, the Clintons continued to pay Pagliano to maintain the server, the Post reported. The paper quoted a campaign official as saying the arrangement with Pagliano ensured that taxpayer dollars were not spent on a private server that was also used by Clinton's family and aides to former President Bill Clinton.

Looks like there was a previous agreement to me.
 
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Allowed? Just who in the State Department allowed this? Herself? And why were there no follow-up questions on this?

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/14ed...-says-no-email-apology-what-i-did-was-allowed

The one-on-one interview with AP was the second for Clinton in the past four days. On Friday, she did not apologize for using a private email system when asked directly by NBC, "Are you sorry?" Asked Monday by the AP why she won't directly apologize, Clinton said: "What I did was allowed. It was allowed by the State Department. The State Department has confirmed that.
 
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werepossum

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Why would we not measure her blemishes against the considerable blemishes of the eventual GOP nominee as we do in every other election? You consider an email server more important than the war mongering, racism, xenophobia, and theocratic ideas coming from the GOP. That's your call.

Your concern trolling is pathetic.
lol That's a lot of words for "No, there is absolutely nothing Hillary can do that could possibly concern me or make me think she might not be suited to lead the free world."

Come to think on it, that's a lot of words for "No, there is absolutely nothing Hillary can do that could possibly make me think." Feelings and foamy hatred for the "win".

Ask Bush & Co. why they did the same thing.
One small difference here: The Bushies used RNC servers IN ADDITION TO federal government servers. Makes it more difficult to know for sure whether any classified info was transacted across those servers, although I think we can pretty much assume there was, any time the Bushies wanted to discuss something without that discussion being discoverable. By contrast, the Hildabeast was much more blatant, leaving no possible doubt. That's the kind of indiscretion that brought down the Hammer.

The Clintons paid a federal employee to maintain the server. This is possibly a criminal offense on the part of the employee. If maintaining the server was truly government work then the employee was double dipping, which is illegal. If the work was not government work then the employee was taking employment with what was almost certainly a prohibited source (the Clintons). The scandal just went from "not much" to a what is very likely to be a career ending investigation for the employee. The Clintons will likely slip past it.
Of course the Clintons will slip past this; rules and laws are for the little people. She could in theory be held accountable, but the GOP is just the other side of the same coin; they are interested in damaging her politically, not in endangering the privileges they wish to enjoy in turn.
 
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Hilarious how quiet the Hiltards are today. ;)
Pretty tough to say much about her when the top 3 words that come to mind when Hillary's name is mentioned is "liar", “dishonest” and “untrustworthy”. She'll never be elected as our next President and Democrats are just now starting to realize this.