Clinton supporter sues to keep Obama from being nominated

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Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Why does this crap keep popping up?

If you want to make a REAL case against Obama, choose some REAL issues and maybe even point the the candidate of your choice and say why he or she is better for X issues compared with Obama.

There's no need to make a real case if he's disqualified even if he is the Messiah.

It's comments like these that drive away some people from the GOP.

I don't necessarily think so. winnar11 is right; if he's not a citizen, there's no need to make any case at all. What's driving people away from the GOP is backwoods America and fiscal liberalism.
 

fskimospy

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In addition, the entry in the newspaper is extremely telling. Those notices couldn't come from parents in the 60's, they had to be given to the newspaper by the Hawaii Office of Vital Statistics. The Office of Vital Statistics gets their information from the hospital where the child is born. That means a US hospital.

EDIT: How many times does this need to be debunked?
 

Jschmuck2

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Good Christ - on a scale of 1 to Tammy Faye Baker, how crazy do you have to be to believe this stuff?

Henceforth, we shall refer to this as the "Berg Scale." I place CPA somewhere between Amy Winehouse on a bender and Theodore John Kaczynski.

Oh, I dunno, he doesn't seem THAT bad. Although his use of the phrase "libs," is troublesome. Using ridiculous little dittohead-esque phrases like that does not speak to one's credibility. I would say that he's firmly entrenched between Ann Coulter on downers and Richard Jewel's guilty doppleganger.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Originally posted by: RKDaley
What do you think?

I think if it were true it would have come out long ago. I have already cast my vote so this issue does not sway me one way or another. I just found it interesting and wanted to know what you guys would think. Now, if it turned out to be true I would have no doubt he should not be able to continue to run, but there is no way this is true.

Then why did you consider it newsworthy let alone post worthy? :confused:

 

Kerouactivist

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Jeez this thread has
butterbean written all over it....must be a book burning going on somewhere...
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Why does this crap keep popping up?

If you want to make a REAL case against Obama, choose some REAL issues and maybe even point the the candidate of your choice and say why he or she is better for X issues compared with Obama.

There's no need to make a real case if he's disqualified even if he is the Messiah.

It's comments like these that drive away some people from the GOP.

You don't believe in the natural born citizen clause?

Nice dodge but you still got it. And yeah, I turned in my (R) card for a (D) card this year.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: Elias824
A certificate of live birth, is different from a birth certificate, I couldn't get my drivers license with a certificate of live birth but he is running for president on it. 99% of the time I dont belive this stuff, but it just a little suspicious that obama hasnt shown anything else to prove his birth over this long of a period of time. Im not saying its true, just saying there isnt any harm in looking into it. Then again that would be racist wouldnt it?

Guilty conscience?
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: bthorny
Jeez this thread has
butterbean written all over it....must be a book burning going on somewhere...

Someone call my name? Yes I wrote about this months ago because I knew that photo of a certificate on BO's site (and that originated on the Daily Kos) was a fake (and Hawaii doesnt recognize photos of documents as legit for the person above who said Hawaii called document real).


Keep in mind the questions aren't just about where BO was born. BO's Indonesian father adopted him. His name in the schools he registered in was Barry Soetoro and his religion was listed as Muslim. At the time Indonesia only allowed citizens to register in the schools so there is excellent chance BO had become Indonesian citizen. This would explain how BO was able to travel to Pakistan when travel to Pakistan by US citizens was banned (meaning BO would have had another a passpor from another country). If BO was naturalized citizen of Indonesia he would have had to go through immigration when he came to Hawaii and there is no evidence he ever did.

If BO is a citizen of another country he is not only not legal for POTUS he would be ineligible for the Senate.

BO could have avoided all this drama with a simple paper document. The fact that he has not and has a bogus doc on that equally bogus fight the smears site is very telling. There have been people in the BO camp laughing at how easy it has been to game the system and reel in millions of dupes.
 

piasabird

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Take Obama off the Presidential Ticket. He is not a US Citizen. Isnt that what the Left wanted to do for McCain? Turnaround is Fair Play.
 

BAMAVOO

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Originally posted by: RKDaley
What do you think?

I think if it were true it would have come out long ago. I have already cast my vote so this issue does not sway me one way or another. I just found it interesting and wanted to know what you guys would think. Now, if it turned out to be true I would have no doubt he should not be able to continue to run, but there is no way this is true.

Then why did you consider it newsworthy let alone post worthy? :confused:

Because I enjoy the entertainment of the posts that I get to read.

 

boomerang

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So, could Obama do jail time for this?

I'll bet Hillary is changing her granny panties three times a day she's so excited over this.

I bet Obama returns from his Hawaii trip with his pockets light on cash and heavy with a Birth Certificate.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: bthorny
Jeez this thread has
butterbean written all over it....must be a book burning going on somewhere...

Nah, unless I missed it there's no mention of liberals being America hating child molesting atheist gay marxist abortionist anti-military crossdressing kooks.
 

Arkaign

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Some other gold from this website :

Communism lite
What do you think of revelations that Obama was a member of a socialist party?

Ayers' group foresaw genocide of capitalists
Informer says communist U.S. envisioned, re-education centers, 25 million 'eliminated'

ROFL :)
 

Jschmuck2

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Take Obama off the Presidential Ticket. He is not a US Citizen. Isnt that what the Left wanted to do for McCain? Turnaround is Fair Play.

1.) Huh?

2.) The "left" is about to win this election. Deal with it.
 

Lemon law

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A taped conversation with a dead man proves nothing, it can't be authenticated, and unless the Hawaii birth certificate can be proved a fake, Joe McCarthy Jr. with the proof in his pocket is blowing smoke.

Obama's mother was a genuine US citizen and that make Barack Obama one also. And for what its worth, when some idiots were questioning McCain's born in the Canal zone status, I said it was a bullshit argument
as well.

Its just more grist for the slime machine, as if we don't have enough already.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: boomerang
So, could Obama do jail time for this?

I'll bet Hillary is changing her granny panties three times a day she's so excited over this.

I bet Obama returns from his Hawaii trip with his pockets light on cash and heavy with a Birth Certificate.

Why would this excite Hillary and I'll take your bets. How much?
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Obama's mother was a genuine US citizen and that make Barack Obama one also.

I'm quoting this from memory, but I'm pretty sure both parents need to be US citizens for that to apply.

Could be wrong. It's happened once or twice before.

HOWEVER, I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic.
 

jonks

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I have a video of McCain in a threeway with Cindy and Amedinijad. I will release it in a few days.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
A taped conversation with a dead man proves nothing, it can't be authenticated, and unless the Hawaii birth certificate can be proved a fake, Joe McCarthy Jr. with the proof in his pocket is blowing smoke.

Obama's mother was a genuine US citizen and that make Barack Obama one also. And for what its worth, when some idiots were questioning McCain's born in the Canal zone status, I said it was a bullshit argument
as well.

Its just more grist for the slime machine, as if we don't have enough already.

^^ This. Of course, desperate extremists will try anything at this point to stop Obama.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Take Obama off the Presidential Ticket. He is not a US Citizen. Isnt that what the Left wanted to do for McCain? Turnaround is Fair Play.

Bwahahaha. Feel free to post examples of 'the left' wanting that for McCain. For every one you post I'll respond with 5 from 'the right' doing it to Obama.

Anyway, I don't think you want to get into a finger pointing game in that arena. It's so bad Obama had to create a website to 'FightTheSmears'. Can you please point me to the McCain campaign's official website put up to counter the false allegations?
 

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: bthorny
Jeez this thread has
butterbean written all over it....must be a book burning going on somewhere...

Nah, unless I missed it there's no mention of liberals being America hating child molesting atheist gay marxist abortionist anti-military crossdressing kooks.

You forgot "Chicago style third world thug trained at the feet of Alinsky perv wanting to teach 5 year olds how to masterbate" . Oh and the mention of Soros (for good measure)
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: BAMAVOO

Topic Summary: Heard this on Michael Savage last night.

There's your first problem. Why are you wasting time listening to a bigoted right wing blowhard? :confused

Originally posted by: jbourne77

If Savage says the sky is blue, does that mean it's not?

No, but it's no indicator that it is, either. Anything Savage says is just so much meaningless air motion.

This is serious if it has merit.

If you think so, you'd better get busy trying to prove it. Until you can, please stop wasting anyone else's time and bandwidth.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Obama's mother was a genuine US citizen and that make Barack Obama one also.

I'm quoting this from memory, but I'm pretty sure both parents need to be US citizens for that to apply.

Could be wrong. It's happened once or twice before.

HOWEVER, I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic.

I'm pretty sure that is incorrect. I am a US citizen. My wife is not (yet). If we have a child - regardless of where it is born - the child would be a US citizen based in my citizenship. (I was told this by state side USCIS)