Citing no evidence, Trump claims illegals cost him pop vote

[Thump553]

Since at least 2000 this has been a major project of the GOP. In multiple states the issue been before the legislature and ended up it litigation, yet the number of actual fraudulent votes proven is the tiniest sliver-rarely more than a handful per state over multiple elections.

BTW Trump is claiming dead people on voter rolls is voter fraud-it is not unless they voted after they died. Dead people on the rolls is natural. If the number is excessive then that district should be reviewing and culling their voter lists more often.

If there is an investigation, it should be more open ended and efforts to restrict the right to vote should be included. That is by far a bigger threat to our democracy in reality.

 

[brycejones]

Now he intends to look into this, even though he supposedly has "evidence" already.

I'm relatively sure that in the history of the country we've never had a person who won an election want to investigate said election. He simply can't let this go.

LOL, only two states? I'm guessing they won't be states that went for Trump.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Three word sums this up. It's about ego.

 

[Brainonska511]

He seems to be questioning the legitimacy of his own election. It's going to be really hilarious if it turns out voter fraud actually got Trump elected.

Yep. For some reason, in Trump's world, there were 2-3 million fraudulent votes that gave Clinton the popular vote victory, but those 80k votes for Trump that gave him the EC victory are legit beyond any doubt.

 

[Commodus]

What fascinates me is just how obviously this "investigation" is fuelled by Trump's ego and nothing else. For him, it's not enough that he won the election -- he has to be the most popular, too. And of course, no matter what the truth is, he'll find a way to claim that he really did have the most votes and that everyone loves him.

Trump must be impeached and removed from office. He's a threat to the country.

 

[K1052]

LOL, only two states? I'm guessing they won't be states that went for Trump.

He must have lost 12 million votes to fraud in California alone.

 

[zinfamous]

He seems to be questioning the legitimacy of his own election. It's going to be really hilarious if it turns out voter fraud actually got Trump elected.

Hey, this is probably the only "noble" way out of this job that he clearly can not handle. Maybe he actually knows what he is doing here? :hmm:

Now, in the ~0% chance that his investigation somehow overturns the election results...does that just put Pence in charge, seeing as how these two are now sworn in and considering succession of power? That would be strange, considering that you are looking at the way voters actually voted, if it turns out that the electorate legitimately rejected them.

 

[zinfamous]

What fascinates me is just how obviously this "investigation" is fuelled by Trump's ego and nothing else. For him, it's not enough that he won the election -- he has to be the most popular, too. And of course, no matter what the truth is, he'll find a way to claim that he really did have the most votes and that everyone loves him.

Trump must be impeached and removed from office. He's a threat to the country.

I think I've been saying since day one that his supporters believe this is an election for high school class president--a popularity contest. I think nothing has changed with that regard, and is probably even more accurate towards the man himself. I think that is all this is about for him. Butthurt from the WHPC dinner that Snowflake suffered nearly 6 years ago under that evil Muslim president Obama. This butthurt manifested into this singular goal of winning a popularity contest.

I would be surprised if he manages to get anything done before "settling this issue" of fixing the popular vote.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What fascinates me is just how obviously this "investigation" is fuelled by Trump's ego and nothing else. For him, it's not enough that he won the election -- he has to be the most popular, too. And of course, no matter what the truth is, he'll find a way to claim that he really did have the most votes and that everyone loves him.

Trump must be impeached and removed from office. He's a threat to the country.

I wouldn't put too much hope on any known potential issues which would rise to the level of impeachment. If being stupid and power hungry were criteria then virtually all of DC would be empty. I wouldn't put much hope in emoluments either. But fear not, at this rate Trump will cross the line in the not too distant future. The only thing is how he implements policies. If he's clever it will take longer.

Oh, to everyone else, can we finally put an end to the "President's don't have real power" nonsense like we heard about the last administration? They certainly effing did and do.

 

[fskimospy]

I wouldn't put too much hope on any known potential issues which would rise to the level of impeachment. If being stupid and power hungry were criteria then virtually all of DC would be empty. I wouldn't put much hope in emoluments either. But fear not, at this rate Trump will cross the line in the not too distant future. The only thing is how he implements policies. If he's clever it will take longer.

Oh, to everyone else, can we finally put an end to the "President's don't have real power" nonsense like we heard about the last administration? They certainly effing did and do.

I don't remember anyone saying that presidents don't have real power? If anything, the presidency has been rapidly gaining power for a long time now. As Congress becomes increasingly dysfunctional that trend will only accelerate. That sort of gradual accumulation of power in the executive is how most presidential systems fail.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I don't remember anyone saying that presidents don't have real power? If anything, the presidency has been rapidly gaining power for a long time now. As Congress becomes increasingly dysfunctional that trend will only accelerate. That sort of gradual accumulation of power in the executive is how most presidential systems fail.

Yeah I have heard that before but I didn't say you said it. It was usually mentioned when people raised concerns about Presidential actions. Sometimes it was about absurd things, others not so much.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Yep. For some reason, in Trump's world, there were 2-3 million fraudulent votes that gave Clinton the popular vote victory, but those 80k votes for Trump that gave him the EC victory are legit beyond any doubt.

Yep...he's going to spend taxpayer money on investigating a conspiracy theory.

Does anyone truly believe that there are 5 million Americans thinking, "Gee, I'm going to risk the felony charge for the chance to have absolutely no effect on anything!" Particularly when the charge appears to be specific to California and New York where your vote, legal or illegal, truly is meaningless. Although..there are some that have been conditioned to believe that the Democratic Party is made up of, not people with different opinions, but cartoon-like villains that will break laws in an attempt to knowingly destroy this country.

When the investigation turns up no evidence of millions of fraudulent votes, President Trump will admit publicly that he was wrong and apologize to all of us for disseminating false information.

Bill me for your monitors and keyboards.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Yep...he's going to spend taxpayer money on investigating a conspiracy theory.

How does he get that money, precisely?

 

[Brainonska511]

Does anyone truly believe that there are 5 million Americans thinking, "Gee, I'm going to risk the felony charge for the chance to have absolutely no effect on anything!" Particularly when the charge appears to be specific to California and New York where your vote, legal or illegal, truly is meaningless. Although..there are some that have been conditioned to believe that the Democratic Party is made up of, not people with different opinions, but cartoon-like villains that will break laws in an attempt to knowingly destroy this country.

In-person voter fraud is like a Dr. Evil style plot. An overly elaborate, easily foiled plan that is highly likely to fail. Why anyone believes that it could ever be true is beyond my comprehension.

 

[fskimospy]

Trump has been vindicated, we have located someone registered in two states!

http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/2...ta-county-because-hes-registered-to-vote-here

In particular, has anyone ever seen him at 3108 Casey Key Road, though probably not asking neighbor Stephen King to borrow a cup of sugar, considering King once wrote on Twitter: "My newest horror story. Once upon a time there was a man named Donald Trump and he ran for president.''

Anyway, this is where Bannon lives, or is supposed to live, still, according to the Sarasota County Supervisor of Elections office. It's the address listed on his voter registration form, effective Aug. 25.

There is only problem: Bannon is also registered to vote in New York City, listing a home address on West 40th Street, and according to a spokesman for the New York State Board of Elections, he voted there in November by absentee ballot.

It happens to be Trump's handpicked Chief Strategist. lol.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump's version of voter fraud is birtherism 2.0. He knows it's bullshit. He also knows it sells to the conspiracy theory faithful & that it muddies the waters, changes the national conversation about his presidency.

Repubs love it for the same reasons & because it serves to reinforce their voter suppression efforts in places like N Carolina. Don't expect Sessions' DoJ to stand up to it or Trump's SCOTUS picks, either.

Just take the blue pill & STFU.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Yep. For some reason, in Trump's world, there were 2-3 million fraudulent votes that gave Clinton the popular vote victory, but those 80k votes for Trump that gave him the EC victory are legit beyond any doubt.

And this thin skinned orange man can't get over it and is going to spend time, money and resources to investigate this crap b/c he's so butthurt. Can't believe so many dumbasses voted for this joke.

 

[Jhhnn]

And this thin skinned orange man can't get over it and is going to spend time, money and resources to investigate this crap b/c he's so butthurt. Can't believe so many dumbasses voted for this joke.

He's not butthurt. He's laughing at the rubes & exploiting the bullshit asymmetry principle as he always has.

 

[VRAMdemon]

If this investigation actually happens, how long will it take for Trump to tweet that the investigation was rigged?

 

[Blackjack200]

Trump's version of voter fraud is birtherism 2.0. He knows it's bullshit. He also knows it sells to the conspiracy theory faithful & that it muddies the waters, changes the national conversation about his presidency.

Repubs love it for the same reasons & because it serves to reinforce their voter suppression efforts in places like N Carolina. Don't expect Sessions' DoJ to stand up to it or Trump's SCOTUS picks, either.

Just take the blue pill & STFU.

I don't believe Trump knows its bullshit. There enough nutjobs out there pushing this story, I'm sure he believes them. They trot out the debunked studies Sean Spicer referred to and tell themselves that the evil media is suppressing them.

 

[theeedude]

I am sure James Comey will find him some "evidence."

 

[bruceb]

What about all the prisoners pardoned in VA by Obama and released so they could vote ? You know they most likely went Democratic

 

[TeeJay1952]

If Trump is bummed out after the election, that just makes it 100%.

 

[Brainonska511]

What about all the prisoners pardoned in VA by Obama and released so they could vote ? You know they most likely went Democratic

Yes, all 212 people pardoned by Obama (in all 8 years, across the country)...

Perhaps you're referring to the reinstatement of voter rights by the governor of Virginia to people who had committed offenses against the state and served their time. But that doesn't support the "they most likely went Democratic" either.

 

[bruceb]

Yes, but just about all of VA went democratic (if I recall correctly)