Chuck Rangel will introduce draft legislation

[Corn]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Corn
I assume you are, what, 12 years old?

No, I'm Liberati. But hopefully you can see: Liberati > Islamofacist

Kinda like: the smell of a fresh turd > a week old dried out one.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209
Freedom is not free.

Two to three years of indentured servitude = Freedom.

The liberati crack me up sometimes. Freedom means nothing to you.....unless you're complaining about some conservative supposedly taking it away from you.

LOL, I wonder how many here would support this if it didn't just apply to the "young", and required every single citizens full time participation for 3 years immediately folling its passage into law. But then again, this is a socialists wet dream.

Certainly you aren't scared of the terrorists, are you? Besides, what's more honorable than giving your life in the name of freedom, right?

I assume you are, what, 12 years old?

Can I assume you support the Iraq operation, and are of age to serve?

I assume you support law and order.....can I assume you are a policeman? Silly liberati.

So then, do you support the Iraq operation? Or more to the point, an on-going operation?

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Corn
I assume you are, what, 12 years old?

No, I'm Liberati. But hopefully you can see: Liberati > Islamofacist

Kinda like: the smell of a fresh turd > a week old dried out one.

This reminds me of a funny story involving my son, a chocolate doughnut, and my shoe.

I'll wait for a better time, though.

But it's funny.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209
Freedom is not free.

Two to three years of indentured servitude = Freedom.

The liberati crack me up sometimes. Freedom means nothing to you.....unless you're complaining about some conservative supposedly taking it away from you.

LOL, I wonder how many here would support this if it didn't just apply to the "young", and required every single citizens full time participation for 3 years immediately folling its passage into law. But then again, this is a socialists wet dream.

Certainly you aren't scared of the terrorists, are you? Besides, what's more honorable than giving your life in the name of freedom, right?

I assume you are, what, 12 years old?

Can I assume you support the Iraq operation, and are of age to serve?

I assume you support law and order.....can I assume you are a policeman? Silly liberati.

So then, do you support the Iraq operation?

Why do you ask? If I support the war I'm supposed to be fighting it?

I support the concept of insurance, however I don't sell it. I also support fire protection but I'm not a fireman. Likewise I support the concept of science yet I'm not a scientist. I even support medicine but I am not a doctor.

I've made my point, what's yours?

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209
Freedom is not free.

Two to three years of indentured servitude = Freedom.

The liberati crack me up sometimes. Freedom means nothing to you.....unless you're complaining about some conservative supposedly taking it away from you.

LOL, I wonder how many here would support this if it didn't just apply to the "young", and required every single citizens full time participation for 3 years immediately folling its passage into law. But then again, this is a socialists wet dream.

Certainly you aren't scared of the terrorists, are you? Besides, what's more honorable than giving your life in the name of freedom, right?

I assume you are, what, 12 years old?

Can I assume you support the Iraq operation, and are of age to serve?

I assume you support law and order.....can I assume you are a policeman? Silly liberati.

So then, do you support the Iraq operation?

Why do you ask? If I support the war I'm supposed to be fighting it?

I support the concept of insurance, however I don't sell it. I also support fire protection but I'm not a fireman. Likewise I support the concept of science yet I'm not a scientist. I even support medicine but I am not a doctor.

I've made my point, what's yours?

How is being a insurance salesman, fireman, scientist or doctor like being a soldier?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Corn
I assume you are, what, 12 years old?

No, I'm Liberati. But hopefully you can see: Liberati > Islamofacist

Kinda like: the smell of a fresh turd > a week old dried out one.

I have to ask why someone would keep week old dried turd around in the first place.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209
Freedom is not free.

Two to three years of indentured servitude = Freedom.

The liberati crack me up sometimes. Freedom means nothing to you.....unless you're complaining about some conservative supposedly taking it away from you.

LOL, I wonder how many here would support this if it didn't just apply to the "young", and required every single citizens full time participation for 3 years immediately folling its passage into law. But then again, this is a socialists wet dream.

Certainly you aren't scared of the terrorists, are you? Besides, what's more honorable than giving your life in the name of freedom, right?

I assume you are, what, 12 years old?

Can I assume you support the Iraq operation, and are of age to serve?

I assume you support law and order.....can I assume you are a policeman? Silly liberati.

So then, do you support the Iraq operation?

Why do you ask? If I support the war I'm supposed to be fighting it?

I support the concept of insurance, however I don't sell it. I also support fire protection but I'm not a fireman. Likewise I support the concept of science yet I'm not a scientist. I even support medicine but I am not a doctor.

I've made my point, what's yours?

How is being a fireman, scientist or doctor like being a soldier?

They are nothing alike. Evidently my point sailed right over your head......

I support an uncountable number of causes and concepts, yet don't actively participate in them all as a priority in my life. The idiotic notion that since I supported the war in Iraq I should be a soldier is not a new one put out by the liberal *cough* "elite" who frequent this forum and is easily debunked.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209
Freedom is not free.

Two to three years of indentured servitude = Freedom.

The liberati crack me up sometimes. Freedom means nothing to you.....unless you're complaining about some conservative supposedly taking it away from you.

LOL, I wonder how many here would support this if it didn't just apply to the "young", and required every single citizens full time participation for 3 years immediately folling its passage into law. But then again, this is a socialists wet dream.

Certainly you aren't scared of the terrorists, are you? Besides, what's more honorable than giving your life in the name of freedom, right?

I assume you are, what, 12 years old?

Can I assume you support the Iraq operation, and are of age to serve?

I assume you support law and order.....can I assume you are a policeman? Silly liberati.

So then, do you support the Iraq operation?

Why do you ask? If I support the war I'm supposed to be fighting it?

I support the concept of insurance, however I don't sell it. I also support fire protection but I'm not a fireman. Likewise I support the concept of science yet I'm not a scientist. I even support medicine but I am not a doctor.

I've made my point, what's yours?

How is being a fireman, scientist or doctor like being a soldier?

They are nothing alike. Evidently my point sailed right over your head......

I support an uncountable number of causes and concepts, yet don't actively participate in them all as a priority in my life. The idiotic notion that since I supported the war in Iraq I should be a soldier is not a new one put out by the liberal *cough* "elite" who frequent this forum and is easily debunked.

So, the thing you believe the U.S. should spill blood over, that you are willing to have men and women to go to fight and die for isn't a priority for you...

/hi, dick cheney, welcome to AT P&N....
//and git your shovel and keep lookin' for them WMD's.....

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209
Freedom is not free.

Two to three years of indentured servitude = Freedom.

The liberati crack me up sometimes. Freedom means nothing to you.....unless you're complaining about some conservative supposedly taking it away from you.

LOL, I wonder how many here would support this if it didn't just apply to the "young", and required every single citizens full time participation for 3 years immediately folling its passage into law. But then again, this is a socialists wet dream.

Certainly you aren't scared of the terrorists, are you? Besides, what's more honorable than giving your life in the name of freedom, right?

I assume you are, what, 12 years old?

Can I assume you support the Iraq operation, and are of age to serve?

I assume you support law and order.....can I assume you are a policeman? Silly liberati.

So then, do you support the Iraq operation?

Why do you ask? If I support the war I'm supposed to be fighting it?

I support the concept of insurance, however I don't sell it. I also support fire protection but I'm not a fireman. Likewise I support the concept of science yet I'm not a scientist. I even support medicine but I am not a doctor.

I've made my point, what's yours?

How is being a fireman, scientist or doctor like being a soldier?

They are nothing alike. Evidently my point sailed right over your head......

I support an uncountable number of causes and concepts, yet don't actively participate in them all as a priority in my life. The idiotic notion that since I supported the war in Iraq I should be a soldier is not a new one put out by the liberal *cough* "elite" who frequent this forum and is easily debunked.

So, the thing you believe the U.S. should spill blood over, that you are willing to have men and women to go to fight for isn't a priority for you...

/hi, dick cheney, welcome to AT P&N....

You don't have the slightest clue about my motivations for the Iraq war, or the personal stake my family has regarding its outcome.....

Take a hike jackass, you're barking up the wrong tree. If anyone is disappointed in the way this war has been handled its me.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209
Freedom is not free.

Two to three years of indentured servitude = Freedom.

The liberati crack me up sometimes. Freedom means nothing to you.....unless you're complaining about some conservative supposedly taking it away from you.

LOL, I wonder how many here would support this if it didn't just apply to the "young", and required every single citizens full time participation for 3 years immediately folling its passage into law. But then again, this is a socialists wet dream.

Certainly you aren't scared of the terrorists, are you? Besides, what's more honorable than giving your life in the name of freedom, right?

I assume you are, what, 12 years old?

Can I assume you support the Iraq operation, and are of age to serve?

I assume you support law and order.....can I assume you are a policeman? Silly liberati.

So then, do you support the Iraq operation?

Why do you ask? If I support the war I'm supposed to be fighting it?

I support the concept of insurance, however I don't sell it. I also support fire protection but I'm not a fireman. Likewise I support the concept of science yet I'm not a scientist. I even support medicine but I am not a doctor.

I've made my point, what's yours?

How is being a fireman, scientist or doctor like being a soldier?

They are nothing alike. Evidently my point sailed right over your head......

I support an uncountable number of causes and concepts, yet don't actively participate in them all as a priority in my life. The idiotic notion that since I supported the war in Iraq I should be a soldier is not a new one put out by the liberal *cough* "elite" who frequent this forum and is easily debunked.

So, the thing you believe the U.S. should spill blood over, that you are willing to have men and women to go to fight for isn't a priority for you...

/hi, dick cheney, welcome to AT P&N....

You don't have the slightest clue about my motivations for the Iraq war, or the personal stake that I have and my family has regarding its outcome.....

Take a hike jackass, you're barking up the wrong tree. If anyone is disappointed in the way this war has been handled its me.

Just because you're from Iraq doesn't give you a free pass... However, enlighten us as to why you feel the way you do - or if you have a website please do post it...

or maybe just talk about it, without the turd and liberati boring comments.....

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: her209
Freedom is not free.

Two to three years of indentured servitude = Freedom.

The liberati crack me up sometimes. Freedom means nothing to you.....unless you're complaining about some conservative supposedly taking it away from you.

LOL, I wonder how many here would support this if it didn't just apply to the "young", and required every single citizens full time participation for 3 years immediately folling its passage into law. But then again, this is a socialists wet dream.

Certainly you aren't scared of the terrorists, are you? Besides, what's more honorable than giving your life in the name of freedom, right?

I assume you are, what, 12 years old?

Can I assume you support the Iraq operation, and are of age to serve?

I assume you support law and order.....can I assume you are a policeman? Silly liberati.

So then, do you support the Iraq operation?

Why do you ask? If I support the war I'm supposed to be fighting it?

I support the concept of insurance, however I don't sell it. I also support fire protection but I'm not a fireman. Likewise I support the concept of science yet I'm not a scientist. I even support medicine but I am not a doctor.

I've made my point, what's yours?

How is being a fireman, scientist or doctor like being a soldier?

They are nothing alike. Evidently my point sailed right over your head......

I support an uncountable number of causes and concepts, yet don't actively participate in them all as a priority in my life. The idiotic notion that since I supported the war in Iraq I should be a soldier is not a new one put out by the liberal *cough* "elite" who frequent this forum and is easily debunked.

So, the thing you believe the U.S. should spill blood over, that you are willing to have men and women to go to fight for isn't a priority for you...

/hi, dick cheney, welcome to AT P&N....

You don't have the slightest clue about my motivations for the Iraq war, or the personal stake that I have and my family has regarding its outcome.....

Take a hike jackass, you're barking up the wrong tree. If anyone is disappointed in the way this war has been handled its me.

Just because you're from Iraq doesn't give you a free pass... However, enlighten us as to why you feel the way you do - or if you have a website please do post it...

A free pass to what? Have an opinion? I don't need to justify anything to you.

 

[UberNeuman]

I'm not asking you to justify anything - I'd like to see what a Iraq war supporter has to say from a viewpoint different from my own...

/spotlight is on you - shine!

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
I'm not asking you to justify anything - I'd like to see what a Iraq war supporter has to say from a viewpoint different from my own...

/spotlight is on you - shine!

Bullsh1t. This whole exercise has been your opinion that since I supported the war in Iraq I should have boots in country. Tell me I'm wrong. [/spotlight]

For posterity:

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Can I assume you support the Iraq operation, and are of age to serve?

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
This is great! This will make future wars so much easier to start.

I disagree. I think it's comparable to putting SS/Medicare on-budget. In essence, every American family would be well aware of the consequences of STARTING a war. Granted, it might not prevent proxy wars like Afghanistan but the presence of a draft would have made Bush43 a 1-term just like Dad.

Bush started and has maintained the Iraq conflict precisely b/c of the isolation of the American public from reality. Faux News, Freepers, Krauthammer, Limpbaugh, etc would scarcely have a chance at a successful misinformation campaign if Powerball wasn't the only lottery people followed weekly.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
I'm not asking you to justify anything - I'd like to see what a Iraq war supporter has to say from a viewpoint different from my own...

/spotlight is on you - shine!

Bullsh1t. This whole exercise has been your opinion that since I supported the war in Iraq I should have boots in country. Tell me I'm wrong. [/spotlight]

I believe you should be doing the job that you want others to do - it's easy to have others do your dirty work....

I didn't ask you to justify it, but I did wonder why if you feel so strongly about spilling the blood of U.S. serviceman and woman with 45,000+ lives of the citizens of Iraq that you would not feel as strongly to join in to fight the fight...

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
I'm not asking you to justify anything - I'd like to see what a Iraq war supporter has to say from a viewpoint different from my own...

/spotlight is on you - shine!

Bullsh1t. This whole exercise has been your opinion that since I supported the war in Iraq I should have boots in country. Tell me I'm wrong. [/spotlight]

I believe you should be doing the job that you want others to do - it's easy to have others do your dirty work....

Edit. No you don't. You support law and order right? Are you a policeman, or a hypocrite?

 

[UberNeuman]

Y'know, Corn - you could really share an interesting viewpoint that many do not have access to...... You aren't willing to do so..... so.... best of luck to you...

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Y'know, Corn - you could really share an interesting viewpoint that many do not have access to...... You aren't willing to do so..... so.... best of luck to you...

I've been here long enough to understand the motivations of the typical liberal and seeking to understand my point of view isn't one of them. Thanks, but no thanks.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Corn
Edit. No you don't. You support law and order right? Are you a policeman, or a hypocrite?

Whoa whoa... what's up with all the Liberati bashing then. Specifically this question:

Originally posted by: Corn
LOL, I wonder how many here would support this if it didn't just apply to the "young", and required every single citizens full time participation for 3 years immediately folling its passage into law.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Y'know, Corn - you could really share an interesting viewpoint that many do not have access to...... You aren't willing to do so..... so.... best of luck to you...

I've been here long enough to understand the motivations of the typical liberal and seeking to understand my point of view isn't one of them. Thanks, but no thanks.

Then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree....

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
I wasn't drafted, I joined on my own, but many of my friends did go into the military through the draft.

I think it's good to have a draft because it requires the country's population as a whole to become invested
into the psychological responsibility of service to their country, and taking the assocciated responsibilityof entering into a war and it's ensuing consequences - something that the GOP Leadership never has had to face.

:thumbsup:

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Jesus H. Christ . . in the last 40 years we've succedded in breeding a nation comprised of cowards and draft-dodgers.

A culture of entitlement!

What we need is a draft to create an American Army of Engineering and science where one can pursue a lifelong middle class career in building a better world, where the aim would be to build what supports the common good, but which is built without profit or for profit. Such an Army could attract folk who could dedicate their lives to doing good and retire with enough to enjoy life with a decent enough retirement in the middle class. Such an US Army would create a university system that pays for lifelong learning in any field of interest related to the core tasks.

What would the uniform look like?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Corn
LOL, I wonder how many here would support this if it didn't just apply to the "young", and required every single citizens full time participation for 3 years immediately folling its passage into law. But then again, this is a socialists wet dream.

I would.

And . . . socialists wet dream my ass, Tom. :|

Boo, there's a socialist under your bed.

I fully support asking every American, no exceptions, to serve their country, to give back to the United States of America with the one thing that levels us all, two years out of their own life in service, military or other.

Not pointing to you, Tom, but I hate fvcking chickhawks like 5 deferment Cheney and champagne division Bush.

How do you feel about them?

 

[mc00]

The draft should be left alone unless is national urgency if U.S is going to be invade by another superpower. I refuse to fight a war I don't support
and I'm not afraid to do time for refusing the draft.. like I said if my country is really in trouble, and is going affect future of my kids than give me the gun or unless there were to be people raise up to fight against there own government give me gun than.
for now call me chickenhawk,pssy,punk,etc... I only have 1 life(and 2 kids) and worth more than any amount money and gold and country.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: her209
Anyone who is not for the draft should be immediately sent to Gitmo as traitors of the United States.

If the war was for a just cause, then I would agree with you. As it stands I support the troops who are in Iraq but not the assholes behind the whole idiotic crusade.