Cheez moved out to wilderness, then got free housing, & going back to Wilderness

[skull]

God loves us that's why he gives us pain and suffering. There is fruit in that that can't easily be explained here on Earthly world. God's anger and vengence goes to those who are wicked (willfully not turning to God and live in evil way) they are not for the children of God. Pain and long suffering (both mental and physical) bears good fruit and yields to God's kingdom... If you live your way without God and come to him at the last moment before death you not gonna get much in heaven..you might get to live in a little shack with 400 sq ft backyard and live very poorly in heaven, but you will still be very thankful to God and regret that you didn't do more for God when you had the chance living on earth.. People that surrender to God, yield to him receive long suffering all their lives but they will receive 500 mile sq ft palace or mansion with a ton of other gifts / treasure... All your toys (way better than Earthly made toys) will be waiting for you as well...even more importantly, you will live close to God's palace and be with him more often, more engaging life with him.. A lot of people that go to heaven regret for not comming to God closer when they lived their life on Earth and miss out so much joy they could've gotten in heaven. That's why God is calling ya now to come to him and follow his ways...God is the one yearning for you to come more than we yearn for God.

You can't explain it because non of what you just said makes any sense. Maybe my analogy earlier in the thread was wrong. Its more like me having a kid then making him suffer when he shows me his love for me while I promise him I'm going to make his life so awesome when hes older. If this god created me just to watch me suffer for him so I can get a mansion and toys later he can eat a dick and shove it all up his ass.

 

[mopardude87]

No one is meant to suffer in this world, no matter your beliefs or practices or anything for that matter are. Spirituality is supposed to be about harmony and the balance and everything in it, no matter your faith or practice.

You make your life what you make it, no one or NOTHING for that matter should control it.

 

[Captante]

Still the GOAT

Oh well .... looks like I'm screwed! 😉

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Oh well .... looks like I'm screwed! 😉

You have only yourself to blame. 😛

 

[zinfamous]

Jesus told me he wants me to keep the apartment and go outside and live in a tent. It is his specific instruction for me. It doesn't mean it applies to everyone. If God says ok it's OK! 😉

your god is a selfish asshole. Why are you so special? Does your god not want you to help others? You claim that you are a "minister," which implies some form of outreach; yet your god commands that you directly remove resources from others that otherwise need it, for purely selfish reasons.

I find many contradicitons in your theology.

 

[cheez]

You can't explain it because non of what you just said makes any sense. Maybe my analogy earlier in the thread was wrong. Its more like me having a kid then making him suffer when he shows me his love for me while I promise him I'm going to make his life so awesome when hes older. If this god created me just to watch me suffer for him so I can get a mansion and toys later he can eat a dick and shove it all up his ass.

Our pain and long suffering for the kingdom of God yields fruit. God then grants us (whether you requested it in prayer or not) to save souls those that don't believe in God all over the world. And send help to those that are in great distress. God knows exactly who is in trouble and need help. It's also to prevent world war / nuclear war from triggering, preventing things from escalating...There are a lot of problems out there that we don't know of. He uses his children as contribution to help the world.. and that contribution is self-denial from the desire of the flesh, pain and long suffering. It's not just the pain though but you get to receive his spirit, literally another person living in you and you'll be comforted by his love. Feeling him is much greater than feeling your own because God's spirit is so strong...you even lose your own heartbeat, overtaken by God. You have a beautiful heart by the way.

your god is a selfish asshole. Why are you so special? Does your god not want you to help others? You claim that you are a "minister," which implies some form of outreach; yet your god commands that you directly remove resources from others that otherwise need it, for purely selfish reasons.

I find many contradicitons in your theology.

My young prentice, I'm special and you are special in the unique way God created us to be.. Yes God wants us to help others but his specific way....which is often different than our own logic or understanding. He knows exactly who need the help the most and he picks out candidates in the area to help those specific people. Me taking up a free housing room isn't the problem to him because he has bigger project he wants done using me and for others around me. Give up a little bit to get bigger thing done. With God the resources (housing and food for example) never run out as he has power to manage all things better way than man can understand. We gotta stop thinking the worldly way...but God's spirit way. The more you get closer to God the more you will adapt to his ways. Our own intelligence and logic lack. Have to rely on God to direct us.


and there is no "my God your God" there is only one God that is omnipotent.

 

[Captante]

 

[Zeze]

You assholes will regret this... some of you still acting like this is 2003 ATOT... and 20 yrs younger.

Where're Dannylove and eakers?

 

[Captante]

You assholes will regret this... some of you still acting like this is 2003 ATOT

Wait .... wat? 😳

I for one like cheez and am pulling for him if it wasn't obvious as are most of the others here.


EDIT: And compared to '03 this is a virtual love-in lol.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I also am pulling for Cheez!
To get the verbal abuse that he gest and yet if you read is last few posts......the dude is putting quite a few people to shame! He has not lashed out nor has he demeaned or made fun of anybody!

 

[Jon-T]

Our pain and long suffering for the kingdom of God yields fruit. God then grants us (whether you requested it in prayer or not) to save souls those that don't believe in God all over the world. And send help to those that are in great distress. God knows exactly who is in trouble and need help. It's also to prevent world war / nuclear war from triggering, preventing things from escalating...There are a lot of problems out there that we don't know of. He uses his children as contribution to help the world.. and that contribution is self-denial from the desire of the flesh, pain and long suffering. It's not just the pain though but you get to receive his spirit, literally another person living in you and you'll be comforted by his love. Feeling him is much greater than feeling your own because God's spirit is so strong...you even lose your own heartbeat, overtaken by God. You have a beautiful heart by the way.


My young prentice, I'm special and you are special in the unique way God created us to be.. Yes God wants us to help others but his specific way....which is often different than our own logic or understanding. He knows exactly who need the help the most and he picks out candidates in the area to help those specific people. Me taking up a free housing room isn't the problem to him because he has bigger project he wants done using me and for others around me. Give up a little bit to get bigger thing done. With God the resources (housing and food for example) never run out as he has power to manage all things better way than man can understand. We gotta stop thinking the worldly way...but God's spirit way. The more you get closer to God the more you will adapt to his ways. Our own intelligence and logic lack. Have to rely on God to direct us.


and there is no "my God your God" there is only one God that is omnipotent.

Dude find any priest who agrees that God is telling you to ruin your life, you can't.

You are a fool who is taking the word of the devil as gospel and who believes they are praising God by listening to the devil. The demons are not being sent to you to do God's work.

Might just as well carve a pentagram on your forehead to show who you truly serve.


Edit to add.

Any please stop using the name of Jesus, those who listen to the devil should not do so.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Dude find any priest who agrees that God is telling you to ruin your life, you can't.

You are a fool who is taking the word of the devil as gospel and who believes they are praising God by listening to the devil. The demons are not being sent to you to do God's work.

Might just as well carve a pentagram on your forehead to show who you truly serve.


Edit to add.

Any please stop using the name of Jesus, those who listen to the devil should not do so.

Why? Cheez did nothing to you and his actions affect you in no way! Why the attack? We get it! You have issues with religion and with what Cheez believes! Your outrageous response toward Cheez will never ever solve any problems! Let him be!!
Cheez`s life has no affect on your own.......
Cheez respect your right to do as you please, why can you not respect his rights?

 

[Zeze]

@cheez, i have an idea.

Why don't you go to church? You need to find your flock. Talk to a nice pastor/priest and consult them.

How about that? See what they say about your faith, discuss, have a good chat..

This is also great for just getting resources. Church is a great resource & community. Hell, you can even help Them.

Let me know if you're interested. I can help find a church for you even (what town you in?)

 

[Zeze]

Dude find any priest who agrees that God is telling you to ruin your life, you can't.

You are a fool who is taking the word of the devil as gospel and who believes they are praising God by listening to the devil. The demons are not being sent to you to do God's work.

Might just as well carve a pentagram on your forehead to show who you truly serve.


Edit to add.

Any please stop using the name of Jesus, those who listen to the devil should not do so.

WWJD?

Remember Jesus raged and literally flipped sh*t at the Pharisees and Sedducees? (charlatans of faith)

Be kind.

 

[mopardude87]

Yeah i had ideas about maybe even offering him a room here to stay at, would be no charge on rent for a few months perhaps if i get my friend to agree with the idea. I make no promises. I would wanna get to know Cheez personally first if possible . I got no idea on his location.

Big Maybe, something keeps suggesting this idea. It feels right.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Yeah i had ideas about maybe even offering him a room here to stay at, would be no charge on rent for a few months perhaps if i get my friend to agree with the idea. I make no promises. I would wanna get to know Cheez personally first if possible . I got no idea on his location.

Big Maybe, something keeps suggesting this idea. It feels right.

I briefly was able to chat with you.....your heart is in the right place! We need more people who are willing to try to help others....Peace!

 

[mopardude87]

I briefly was able to chat with you.....your heart is in the right place! We need more people who are willing to try to help others....Peace!

Been homeless and in his shoes, my friend is whom took me in 15 years ago. I wanna pay it forward.

I could guarantee i could pay his way one month, lock in the room at least. After one thief, a man who played the race card, a legit witch who tried to poison one of my cats i honestly think a man on the forums here is the most normal person out of the bunch.

His location may be a issue though. He may have issues with my life choices and style as well.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Been homeless and in his shoes, my friend is whom took me in 15 years ago. I wanna pay it forward.

I could guarantee i could pay his way one month, lock in the room at least. After one thief, a man who played the race card, a legit witch who tried to poison one of my cats i honestly think a man on the forums here is the most normal person out of the bunch.

His location may be a issue though. He may have issues with my life choices and style as well.

But you tried!! If it is not possible its not possible! But again -- You tried!! Peace!

 

[mopardude87]

But you tried!! If it is not possible its not possible! But again -- You tried!! Peace!

Friend agrees and likes the idea even, now about the stuff i mentioned before.

Edit: we would need to meet up with my friend, he would be the one giving him the room for the month. I won't be staying with him. I will be at another house. I would pay the $300 i normally pay for the room and he has 30 days to figure something out. If he decides to stay it will be a set $300 a month. That includes internet. My friend can be compassionate, he may even just let him stay a bit longer without trouble. Depends on the vibes of the person.

 

[darkswordsman17]

So enlighten me?

How are we "liable" because we are aware of one of literally 10's of thousands of mentally compromised folks out there being homeless? (not counting morally)

I prefer to be corrected if I make a mistake.


And assuming you are able to do the above in a way that makes sense, what do we do to help him thus making us/ATOT's parent company not liable? (seriously)

I'm open to suggestions.

The liability has nothing to do with homelessness. I'm not kidding that people that legit espouse the mentality that cheez has in this thread are very likely to harm others or initiate situations that lead to harm for themselves. How he talks about god talking to him is how people that do incredibly fucked up things talk. Even among homeless people where mental health issues are prevalent, its noteworthy. I've mentioned some of that (look up Richard Chase, as something about cheez's comments gives me a similar vibe).

Which, I don't think there's actually any real risk of liability. Even when they not only let but had lots of people egging on misanthropic shitheads that did shootings, 4/8Chan weren't held legally liable for that, although there were some threats about doing so (I think much of that was about child porn though where there's definitely laws about sites being liable for that), and so 4Chan started clamping down on it, while 8Chan ran into issues finding companies willing to host them.

My point with regards to liability is more just pointing to how nonsensical their application of minimizing liability is. I'd say there's a non-zero chance that if this situation were true cheez might would have some shared interests with waggy. Don't bother asking for more information about that, they don't want people discussing it, for reasons that if you knew, you'd understand. Homelessness is a common issue in that demographic of person as well. On the flipside, people who perperate such behavior also tend to have been victims of it prior.

Lastly, like I said, I don't think this is legit. I forgot about the OP being the audiophile troll from awhile back. So you need to understand that my posts now shouldn't be taken fully straightforward.

 

[zinfamous]

You assholes will regret this... some of you still acting like this is 2003 ATOT... and 20 yrs younger.

Where're Dannylove and eakers?

you misunderstand me. I want cheez to get help. He's fucking sick though. His brain is fried. He needs an institution and/or his parents need to come in and take care of him. The guy is schizophrenic. He needs to be on medication.

People think he isn't hurting anyone, but he just hasn't yet. He doesn't have to want to hurt anyone to be a danger to others. Sick people that hear voices like this guy does, and follows their commands as he does, is going to be dragging other people into their shit at some point.

Maybe it's touch love. I wish him well and all, but that only involves him getting medicated, because that's the only well that he can possibly be. Living like he is is no way to be. This isn't the rebelious kind of living out in a tent and making his own rules. This is the "will be living off of discarded cat food and my own lice" kind of tent living because his illness commands him to.

 

[VirtualLarry]

The guy is schizophrenic. He needs to be on medication.

Look at me. I'm (mostly, most of the time) "normal" on my meds. I manage to pay for my (public) apt. (sometimes Mom helps out, when I go on a spending spree @ Newegg), I have a vehicle. I don't have an actual "job" though, so I really commend Cheez for that. I know other people on Disability, and it sucks, it seems like such an easy lifestyle, but it's really not. I like the idea of UBI, with NO LIMITS on what you can make, then I could probably get UBI and possibly, with help, get a part-time job. Right now, if I got something that paid well, I would be denied my disability check, and that would suck balls, because I'm not confident in myself, or the job market, or my ability to overcome my illness (still have it, after like 20+ years), in order to hold down a full-time job that would actually PAY THE RENT. (And keep the job for any substantial amount of time.) If I had UBI to fall back on, I would feel more free to "experiment" with getting back into the job market, and maybe something would stick, and I could get myself off of disability. (Somehow, some way. That would be like a dream to me. Then I wouldn't be so trapped, and people wouldn't crap all over me all of the time, for being on disability. I do donate my time, here, elsewhere, to do tech support, I build PCs and mostly give them away, although I haven't even been so successful at that.)

But I will say, too, I feel trapped, in my own sort of Hell, of dependency (on my disability check, on my meds, on my M.H. clinic, on my workers, on my Mom), of "stuckness". Better to be free in the Spirit, and free in the Woods, than to be tied to the State, I guess. So Cheez, I think that you're doing the Right Thing, mostly, but I question some of your doctrine, some here think that you are being deceived. ("My Yolk is Light", said Jesus.)

Oh yeah, the meds don't always help. Sadly. They used to work better. Over time, generally, most psychotropic meds have less of an effect. Some can even cause symptoms when you take them, when you're feeling OK without them for a while. Somewhat paradoxical.

 

[mopardude87]

Cheez check out post#794 please when you get a chance.

If you want privacy involving the the matter feel free to pm me on the matter. The offer is on the table, i can only open the door and offer this to you. Hopefully you're close enough at least. I live in California. Hoping all is going well with you. Won't be offended if you decline the offer,i understand whats going on in the world. Half the time i can't trust people for shit either, just this has been something i thought about for days now.

May your god PLEASE watch over you till you make your decision. 🙂

 

[mopardude87]

Oh yeah, the meds don't always help. Sadly. They used to work better. Over time, generally, most psychotropic meds have less of an effect. Some can even cause symptoms when you take them, when you're feeling OK without them for a while. Somewhat paradoxical.

Not a doctor here recommending shit, but been in your shoes. I have had the worst side effects to those types of meds. Rite Aide almost killed me swapping out a anxiety pill for a heart medication . Luckily i looked down before i took the pill, it could have killed me. Was for increasing the blood pressure, forgot the name but was a very white small pill. The normal pill was horse sized. How they screwed this up idk but i got lucky. Same week i suffered insane blood pressure, i weighed like 150 and was 180/92 sitting in a chair relaxing. I almost got sent to er. I was better off the meds then on for YEARS till i found my new "faith" . I was in the system growing up so various places made bank drugging me up, usually with stuff i didn't even need. I barely was functional half the time.

My new "faith" involves herbalism, i use indica green tea and chamomile and honestly NEVER in my life have i been as good as i am right now. Still researching things on the daily just about when i need a natural remedy for something. This shit works, you MAY wanna look into it sir. Yeah its not often you could find such awesome benefits from a "faith". Well more like a practice but its a combination of the 2. Some been doing this back to Stonhenge times, its very ancient but pure. Even lost tons of weight. I research stuff for friends share my knowledge like the ancestors before me did.

My own opinion and like i said i am not a doctor. Just someone who wanted to share a good experience. DO research please before you dabble in it if you decide to, these things have side effects as well in fact. Also your results may vary of course like anything else. Talk to your doctor about it first actually, then research it.

Edit: added note for talking to doctor in case you already read. I highly suggest that first.

 

[JEDIYoda]

The liability has nothing to do with homelessness. I'm not kidding that people that legit espouse the mentality that cheez has in this thread are very likely to harm others or initiate situations that lead to harm for themselves. How he talks about god talking to him is how people that do incredibly fucked up things talk. Even among homeless people where mental health issues are prevalent, its noteworthy. I've mentioned some of that (look up Richard Chase, as something about cheez's comments gives me a similar vibe).

Which, I don't think there's actually any real risk of liability. Even when they not only let but had lots of people egging on misanthropic shitheads that did shootings, 4/8Chan weren't held legally liable for that, although there were some threats about doing so (I think much of that was about child porn though where there's definitely laws about sites being liable for that), and so 4Chan started clamping down on it, while 8Chan ran into issues finding companies willing to host them.

My point with regards to liability is more just pointing to how nonsensical their application of minimizing liability is. I'd say there's a non-zero chance that if this situation were true cheez might would have some shared interests with waggy. Don't bother asking for more information about that, they don't want people discussing it, for reasons that if you knew, you'd understand. Homelessness is a common issue in that demographic of person as well. On the flipside, people who perperate such behavior also tend to have been victims of it prior.

Lastly, like I said, I don't think this is legit. I forgot about the OP being the audiophile troll from awhile back. So you need to understand that my posts now shouldn't be taken fully straightforward.

Truthfully, you wasted a lot of time saying in reality nothing!
Cheez is Cheez and i don`t see nor have I ever heard Cheez attack anybody or belittle or put anybody down,
His situation is not ours nor is it anybodys to do anything more than to express concern and hope for the best in his situation!