Charlie Kirk shot in the neck during Utah debate and has now passed.

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ToTTenTranz

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Sounds like the evidence you would leave behind in a false flag operation.
- Charlie Kirk would get death threats for transgenders and transgender ideologues every day because he was against said ideology.
- Charlie Kirk gets shot and killed.
- Authorities find bullets and bullet casings with transgender ideology statements engraved in them.

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To paraphrase your words do you think it was a bad idea for conservatives to think political violence only goes one way and here they are finding out?
Point me to the thread in this forum where people are celebrating those people's murders so I can go there and call them a piece of crap.
 

UNCjigga

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So your conclusion is that murdering people in front of their kids is fine because deportations result in deaths?
I'm confused. You keep complaining about all these violent leftists who wanted Kirk dead--who are they? Where are they? Random 4chan/X trolls? Who gave them a platform? Which elected leaders are elevating them, sharing a stage with them, and turning their hateful rhetoric into legislation?? You keep reposting actual elected liberals and liberal candidates who've all universally condemned this shooting--no one is saying he deserved it.

Now compare and contrast that with people like Charlie Kirk, Laura Loomer or even the more extreme Nick Fuentes. Not only are they being platformed and monetized for the clicks, and funneling that money via PACs to elect more extreme politicians, but elected officials AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL are amplifying their rhetoric and turning their hate into legislation. Kirk was on the Trump transition team for chrissakes.

So please share with us any posts from anyone with a platform who "wanted Kirk dead" (not just some throwaway X bot accounts) or else spare us your concern trolling.

Edit: One more thing--"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants". That isn't something liberals agree with and we still don't know who the shooter is, but humor me one moment. How many trans mass shooters did we have before the modern anti-trans movement picked up in 2020? Who is responsible for helping the anti-trans movement spread? Who helped promote anti-trans legislation in state legislatures across the country, then elevated anti-trans legislation in Congress, and helped enact anti-trans edicts via executive orders? Kirk was killed by a single bullet from 200 yards away. One shot. Who kicked trans people out of the military?

When someone sees their civil liberties being stripped away and decides to take 2nd Amendment action to protect themselves--was the person targeted a patriot or a tyrant?
 
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brycejones

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- Charlie Kirk would get death threats for transgenders and transgender ideologues every day because he was against said ideology.
- Charlie Kirk gets shot and killed.
- Authorities find bullets and bullet casings with transgender ideology statements engraved in them.

sOuNdS LiKe fAlSe fLaG oPeRaTiOn!




Point me to the thread in this forum where people are celebrating those people's murders so I can go there and call them a piece of crap.

1. Transgender “ideology”. Fuck you this is the language of a bigot.

2. Given the lack of an actual suspect you’re the only one jumping to conclusions based on a supposedly leaked report. I was mocking you.

3. Your silence when all other mass shootings and targeted political attacks happened until this one specific event speaks volumes about your character. Get bent
 

HomerJS

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Think Fox will fire their person who said to just kill people who are mentally ill?
JONES: Put him in a mental institution, put him in a jail, and you guys figure it out. But people having to duck and dive on the trains and the buses, walking through the street, this is one case, but this is happening all across the country, and it's not a money issue. They have given billions of dollars to mental health and the homeless population. A lot of them don't want to take the programs, a lot of them don't want to get the help that is necessary. You can't give them a choice. Either you take the resources that we're going to give you and — or you decide that you are going to be locked up in jail. That's the way it has to be now.

BRIAN KILMEADE (FOX HOST): Or involuntary lethal injection.

JONES: Yeah.

KILMEADE : Or something. Just kill them.
 
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1. Transgender “ideology”. Fuck you this is the language of a bigot.

2. Given the lack of an actual suspect you’re the only one jumping to conclusions based on a supposedly leaked report. I was mocking you.

3. Your silence when all other mass shootings and targeted political attacks happened until this one specific event speaks volumes about your character. Get bent
He probably thinks Lewis Prothero, the Voice of London, is a blameless victim in V for Vendetta (film).
 
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Fenixgoon

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What? Forgot Pearl Harbor?
My history teacher in high school suggested that the US naval buildup in the Pacific region was used as a means to provoke Japan into attacking, thus justifying US entry into WW2.

Considering how the sinking of the Lusitania got us in WW1, I don't find this theory implausible (though there are many other, more fringe theories such as advanced knowledge of the attack, that are generally discredited).
 

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+1. My only criticism is that the GQP has already taken America down the path of political violence and is in the process of collapsing what was a functioning democracy. America's journey into this rabbit hole is not going to resolve peacefully, even if MLK (or others like him) was miraculously reborn.
 

K1052

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My history teacher in high school suggested that the US naval buildup in the Pacific region was used as a means to provoke Japan into attacking, thus justifying US entry into WW2.

The Japanese did not need a whole lot of excuses to engage in military expansion in Asia against independent nations and colonial possessions alike. It was in fact the plan.
 

K1052

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+1. My only criticism is that the GQP has already taken America down the path of political violence and is in the process of collapsing what was a functioning democracy. America's journey into this rabbit hole is not going to resolve peacefully, even if MLK (or others like him) was miraculously reborn.

Not sure why it is so difficult for many people to regret that a crime was committed and also not to whitewash the black letter history of the person who died to the point of canonization.
 

HomerJS

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So your conclusion is that murdering people in front of their kids is fine because deportations result in deaths?
You just refuse to stop lying. Not one person here said they wanted Charlie Kirk killed. In fact, it is the opposite.

You people are really good at changing history to fit your narrative. You think by repeating the left here wanted Kirk killed it will eventually stick.

What is true, a lot of people like me are completely indifferent to his killing because he was a heinous piece of shit who died by his own words. Also, people like me do not want political violence to continue.
 

HomerJS

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- Charlie Kirk would get death threats for transgenders and transgender ideologues every day because he was against said ideology.
- Charlie Kirk gets shot and killed.
- Authorities find bullets and bullet casings with transgender ideology statements engraved in them.

sOuNdS LiKe fAlSe fLaG oPeRaTiOn!




Point me to the thread in this forum where people are celebrating those people's murders so I can go there and call them a piece of crap.
We don't know anything about so called transgenderideology because info on the shooter and motive have not been released. I know you are hoping the shooter was trans so you can continue to demonize them.

BTW - When are we going to start demonizing white guys for all the mass school shootings?
 

K1052

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What is true, a lot of people like me are completely indifferent to his killing because he was a heinous piece of shit who died by his own words. Also, people like me do not want political violence to continue.

Yes, murder is a terrible crime and the person responsible should be brought to justice. No amount of conservative tears or frothing at the mouth is going to make me feel bad he's gone. They have no entitlement to dictate my emotions.