Charlie Kirk shot in the neck during Utah debate and has now passed.

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blankslate

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There is absolutely zero first amendment conflict here. Unless you are saying the state killed Charlie Kirk.

one can imagine some off the wall politicos on the far right somehow defining some left positions as instigating violence. After thinking no president could be worse than W and being proven wrong in spectacular fashion I'm not jumping to conclusions
 
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VRAMdemon

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Kirk said Pelosi's attacker was a patriot. That's why I said he had it coming to him even though I would not wish it on him.

The fact this happened right during a question about guns in America make me think karma played a part.

"I think empathy is a made-up "New Age" term that has done a lot of damage". — Charlie Kirk

Kirk was a hate merchant and not having empathy makes doing that much easier.

Trump gave the greenlight for political violence on Jan 6th. You reap what you sow.

Meanwhile, multiple people shot at a high school in Denver today.

This is the country we live in.
 

fskimospy

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Clicked on this thread expecting liberals to expose how repulsive they are, did not disappoint
You’re going to be so mad when you find out what Charlie Kirk did for his entire life.

You will nearly certainly not respond to this but I would hope in your mind you hold him to the same standards you hold internet randos to.

Do you?
 

Drach

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Probably should ban unhinged liberals because they tend to perpetrate shootings.
You sure about that?

According to data from the CDC, these are the states with the
highest firearm mortality rates per 100,000 in 2021:
1. 🔴Mississippi had a firearm mortality rate of 33.9, making
it the state with the highest rate in 2021. The state also used
its electoral votes to vote for then President Trump in the
2020 election.
2. 🔴Louisiana had a firearm mortality rate of 29.1 and voted
for Trump.
3. 🔵New Mexico had a firearm mortality rate of 27.8 and
voted for President Biden.
4. 🔴Alabama had a firearm mortality rate of 26.4 and voted
for Trump.
5. 🔴Wyoming had a firearm mortality rate of 26.1 and voted
for Trump.
6. 🔴Alaska had a firearm mortality rate of 25.2 and voted for
Trump.
7. 🔴Montana had a firearm mortality rate of 25.1 and voted
for Trump.
8. 🔴Arkansas had a firearm mortality rate of 23.3 and voted
for Trump.
9. 🔴Missouri had a firearm mortality rate of 23.2 and voted
for Trump.
10. 🔴Tennessee had a firearm mortality rate of 22.8 and
voted for Trump.
11. 🔴South Carolina had a firearm mortality rate of 22.4 and
voted for Trump.
12. 🔴Oklahoma had a firearm mortality rate of 21.2 and
voted for Trump.
13. 🔵Georgia had a firearm mortality rate of 20.3 and voted
for Biden.
14. 🔵Nevada had a firearm mortality rate of 19.8 and voted
for Biden.
15. 🔴Indiana had a firearm mortality rate of 18.4 and voted
for Trump.

STATES WITH THE LOWEST GUN DEATH RATES
1. 🔵Massachusetts has a firearm mortality rate of 3.4 and
voted for Biden.
2. 🔵Hawaii has a firearm mortality rate of 4.8 and voted for
Biden.
3. 🔵New Jersey has a firearm mortality rate of 5.2 and voted
for Biden.
4. 🔵New York has a firearm mortality rate of 5.4 and voted
for Biden.
5. 🔵Rhode Island has a firearm mortality rate of 5.6 and
voted for Biden.
6. 🔵Connecticut has a firearm mortality rate of 6.7 and
voted for Biden.
7. 🔵New Hampshire has a firearm mortality rate of 8.3 and
voted for Biden.
8. 🔵California has a firearm mortality rate of 9.0 and voted
for Biden.
9. 🔵Minnesota has a firearm mortality rate of 10.0 and
voted for Biden.
10. 🔴Nebraska has a firearm mortality rate of 10.3 and voted
for Trump.
11. 🔴Iowa has a firearm mortality rate of 11.2 and voted for
Trump.
12. 🔵Washington has a firearm mortality rate of 11.2 and
voted for Biden.
13. 🔵Vermont has a firearm mortality rate of 11.9 and voted
for Biden.
14. 🔵Maine has a firearm mortality rate of 12.6 and voted for
Biden.
15. 🔵Wisconsin has a firearm mortality rate of 13.5 and voted
for Biden.
 

VRAMdemon

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You’re going to be so mad when you find out what Charlie Kirk did for his entire life.

You will nearly certainly not respond to this but I would hope in your mind you hold him to the same standards you hold internet randos to.

Do you?

This is the type of society that Charlie Kirk and his followers want/wanted to live in.

I'd be willing to bet that if Kirk had spent as much time spreading goodwill and building bridges with half of America, as he did with spreading hate and division, he'd be alive right now.

Charlie died today doing what he loved... protecting shootings across America, for our "God given rights" Kirks death is like the Marlboro Man dying of lung cancer - you don't want to be remembered for promoting the thing that kills you.
 

e2dog32021

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Not condoning violence but the only way the R-etards come to senses on gun violence is more of their 'angels' (demons in reality) fall this way...Nick Fuentes and the 6 supreme stooges need to watch their own backyard after the evil they have done.
 

dr1337

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Aha, confirmation bias petri dish.
literally the post after yours
Nick Fuentes and the 6 supreme stooges need to watch their own backyard after the evil they have done.
posts like these and like the first page of the thread "repulicans cant take the heat", and people saying things like "one less enemy" might well all be direct calls for more violence

its not confirmation bias, its already happened, and still happening in real time

there is a disturbing amount of so called 'liberals, leftists, or progressives' in this thread who are genuinely happy this man was murdered, and it makes me ashamed that I share a bed with these people.

it doesn't matter if you hated him, this man being dead isn't a good thing, and it doesn't get us closer to more human rights or free healthcare. to dehumanize political opponents is what the nazis did and there sure is a lot of dehumanizing going on in this thread. (and a lot of people being kind, but also a good bunch of hate)
 

Muse

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Yeah, I can read, can you? Where does he call Depape a patriot?
Well, he said whoever would bail him out would be a patriot and a hero. That's virtually the same thing:

Kirk went on to say, “And by the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out …
 
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literally the post after yours

posts like these and like the first page of the thread "repulicans cant take the heat", and people saying things like "one less enemy" might well all be direct calls for more violence

its not confirmation bias, its already happened, and still happening in real time
Republicans have been fanning the flames of violence for years. Don't act all shocked Pikachu face when it happens to your own side.

That statement is not condoning violence. It's simply stating the reality, and I'm not going to shed tears because a shithead is now pushing daisies. I don't want to live in a country where people turn to violence because some people decided to break the political process. And if Republicans don't want people to kill problems away, maybe they shouldn't engage in such casual and widespread rhetoric about killing problems away. They are the primary source of fanned flames, and the Party of Personal Responsibility should take some Personal Responsibility for their actions.
 

dr1337

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Republicans have been fanning the flames of violence for years. Don't act all shocked Pikachu face when it happens to your own side.
yeah, just because you want a million people to die in a civil war, doesn't mean the rest of us in the real world want to

If Republicans don't want people to kill problems away, maybe they shouldn't engage in such casual and widespread rhetoric about killing problems away.
Even if fox news was promoting murder daily (they arent), why do you want to stoop to that level?
They are the primary fanned of flames, and the Party of Personal Responsibility should take some Personal Responsibility for their actions.
because you support murder?

your bloodthirst doesn't reflect on whats actually going on. maybe 4chan wants people to die, but the average conservative has done nothing that you're accusing them of.

meanwhile, again, people literally support the death of charlie kirk in this thread. This place is literally full of extremists.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Republicans have been fanning the flames of violence for years. Don't act all shocked Pikachu face when it happens to your own side.
Yeah Hitler 2.0 was literally calling on his brownshirts to assassinate Clinton during the 2016 election. Now that's fanning the flames of violence. Not anywhere comparable to most of us on this forum saying we don't give a shit and won't mourn Kirk.
 
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yeah, just because you want a million people to die in a civil war, doesn't mean the rest of us in the real world want to
Perhaps you have a reading comprehension problem. Point to where I said I want that situation.
Even if fox news was promoting murder daily (they arent), why do you want to stoop to that level?

because you support murder?
Again - reading comprehension. It's a thing. Try it some time because I said none of those things.
 

dr1337

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Yeah Hitler 2.0 was literally calling on his brownshirts to assassinate Clinton during the 2016 election. Now that's fanning the flames of violence. Not anywhere comparable to most of us on this forum saying we don't give a shit and won't mourn Kirk.
thats great man, compare yourself to trump, like all american liberals aspire to do... lmao like what?


you don't have to morun him, but people coming out to say they're glad he's dead is objectively unhinged
 

quikah

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Well, he said whoever would bail him out would be a patriot and a hero. That's virtually the same thing:
He was part of the "lover's quarrel" conspiracy camp and wanted someone to bail him out to question him to get the truth thereby helping the right in the midterms. Also I think this was during the dust up around bail reform so that also seemed to be part of it, but I might be misremembering the timeline around that.
 

MrSquished

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literally the post after yours

posts like these and like the first page of the thread "repulicans cant take the heat", and people saying things like "one less enemy" might well all be direct calls for more violence

its not confirmation bias, its already happened, and still happening in real time

there is a disturbing amount of so called 'liberals, leftists, or progressives' in this thread who are genuinely happy this man was murdered, and it makes me ashamed that I share a bed with these people.

it doesn't matter if you hated him, this man being dead isn't a good thing, and it doesn't get us closer to more human rights or free healthcare. to dehumanize political opponents is what the nazis did and there sure is a lot of dehumanizing going on in this thread. (and a lot of people being kind, but also a good bunch of hate)
The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. Now fuck off you dumb twat with your bullshit.

My next ban is permanent because I insulted Green Man the fucking Nazi. Apparently, Nazi's having a safe space is pretty important . So I just wanted to also say, fuck Green Man that fucking piece of shit Nazi supporting scum. And to anyone who was insulted by this to report it like the little bitch Nazi they are themselves.

American flags are going to fly half-mast in honor of a Nazi propagandist. Absolutely shameful. We should at least be happy about the death of an evil person even if we don't like how it happened.

Here we go again, good sir. :(
Perknose
Forum Director aka Little Bitch Nazi
 
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Jaskalas

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you don't have to morun him, but people coming out to say they're glad he's dead is objectively unhinged
I'm just growing bored and waiting for people to catch up to the end of the story. We KNOW where Nazism leads. We know what MAGA Nazis are doing when they reject elections, take action to overthrow elections, violently storm the capitol to harm Congress and hang VP Pence. We know what MAGA Nazis are doing when they send military to our streets, fill concentration camps, and violate the rule of law - everywhere.

Here you are, still pretending. And some fool Democrats are also willing to pretend not to see behind your mask. But at some point in this escalation it'll dawn on both sides that it does not matter if it is 1930, or 2030, we know the next steps of this story, and we know how it ends.
 

esquared

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You sure about that?

According to data from the CDC, these are the states with the
highest firearm mortality rates per 100,000 in 2021:
1. 🔴Mississippi had a firearm mortality rate of 33.9, making
it the state with the highest rate in 2021. The state also used
its electoral votes to vote for then President Trump in the
2020 election.
2. 🔴Louisiana had a firearm mortality rate of 29.1 and voted
for Trump.
3. 🔵New Mexico had a firearm mortality rate of 27.8 and
voted for President Biden.
4. 🔴Alabama had a firearm mortality rate of 26.4 and voted
for Trump.
5. 🔴Wyoming had a firearm mortality rate of 26.1 and voted
for Trump.
6. 🔴Alaska had a firearm mortality rate of 25.2 and voted for
Trump.
7. 🔴Montana had a firearm mortality rate of 25.1 and voted
for Trump.
8. 🔴Arkansas had a firearm mortality rate of 23.3 and voted
for Trump.
9. 🔴Missouri had a firearm mortality rate of 23.2 and voted
for Trump.
10. 🔴Tennessee had a firearm mortality rate of 22.8 and
voted for Trump.
11. 🔴South Carolina had a firearm mortality rate of 22.4 and
voted for Trump.
12. 🔴Oklahoma had a firearm mortality rate of 21.2 and
voted for Trump.
13. 🔵Georgia had a firearm mortality rate of 20.3 and voted
for Biden.
14. 🔵Nevada had a firearm mortality rate of 19.8 and voted
for Biden.
15. 🔴Indiana had a firearm mortality rate of 18.4 and voted
for Trump.

STATES WITH THE LOWEST GUN DEATH RATES
1. 🔵Massachusetts has a firearm mortality rate of 3.4 and
voted for Biden.
2. 🔵Hawaii has a firearm mortality rate of 4.8 and voted for
Biden.
3. 🔵New Jersey has a firearm mortality rate of 5.2 and voted
for Biden.
4. 🔵New York has a firearm mortality rate of 5.4 and voted
for Biden.
5. 🔵Rhode Island has a firearm mortality rate of 5.6 and
voted for Biden.
6. 🔵Connecticut has a firearm mortality rate of 6.7 and
voted for Biden.
7. 🔵New Hampshire has a firearm mortality rate of 8.3 and
voted for Biden.
8. 🔵California has a firearm mortality rate of 9.0 and voted
for Biden.
9. 🔵Minnesota has a firearm mortality rate of 10.0 and
voted for Biden.
10. 🔴Nebraska has a firearm mortality rate of 10.3 and voted
for Trump.
11. 🔴Iowa has a firearm mortality rate of 11.2 and voted for
Trump.
12. 🔵Washington has a firearm mortality rate of 11.2 and
voted for Biden.
13. 🔵Vermont has a firearm mortality rate of 11.9 and voted
for Biden.
14. 🔵Maine has a firearm mortality rate of 12.6 and voted for
Biden.
15. 🔵Wisconsin has a firearm mortality rate of 13.5 and voted
for Biden.
Don't confuse these guys with facts.
You will make their heads explode.
 
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dr1337

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Perhaps you have a reading comprehension problem. Point to where I said I want that situation.

Again - reading comprehension. It's a thing. Try it some time because I said none of those things.
any reasonable person doesn't want a civil war, and if one side is fanning the flames you dont just go and help them fan

and you directly said republicans wanted to kill problems away. if you're not seeing it in the MSM where are all of these evil republicans you hear from?

like why all of the gaslighting and doublespeak? anyone can see what your said?
Don't confuse these guys with facts.
You will make their heads explode.
definitely dont want to break the numbers down by county. I live in one of the top 10 highest murder rate cities, in a republican state, in a county and city that is majority blue.

all of this partisan side taking is worthless once you actually get down to the data, this is about individual people and their individual beliefs at the end of the day. Republicans nor democrats as ideologies alone drive someone to be insane and commit murder.

I mean fuck playing the stat game is what all the alt right kiddies do with the FBI stats, its like my same point over and over again, don't play their games.
Here you are, still pretending. And some fool Democrats are also willing to pretend not to see behind your mask. But at some point in this escalation it'll dawn on both sides that it does not matter if it is 1930, or 2030, we know the next steps of this story, and we know how it ends.
my mask? I think the only people wearing masks are the folks desperately trying to justify murder and an acceleration towards civil war.

you do not beat charlie kirk and donald trump by being worse than them. fact.