Charlie Kirk shot in the neck during Utah debate and has now passed.

[quikah]

No one here has advocated for Kirk's death. Nor have they justified it.

Meanwhile Kirk himself celebrated the attempted murder of Paul Pelosi and called his attacker a "Patriot."

What you're seeing here is a lack of empathy, NOT any sort of justification for murder.

But keep projecting the blood lust of the right-wing.

Try harder.

Kirk never called Depape a patriot.

 

[Amused]

Kirk never called Depape a patriot.

Turning Point USA Founder Charlie Kirk Encourages Audience to Post Bail for Paul Pelosi’s Attacker: ‘Why Is He Still in Jail?’ (Video)

David DePape was charged with federal assault and attempted kidnapping by the Department of Justice on Monday

www.yahoo.com

 

[brycejones]

I disagreed with Charlie Kirk and felt that Gavin Newsome doing a podcast with him was beyond weak and emblematic of what is wrong with the Democratic Party.

His murder at a public event raises all sorts of concerns about the First Amendment in regards to those who rely on it to be able to speak their minds about controversial heated topics in online video streams and other forums.

Now I am worried about revenge assassinations. Given these intensely divisive times I'd say it's a real risk.




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There is absolutely zero first amendment conflict here. Unless you are saying the state killed Charlie Kirk.

 

[HomerJS]

When you can't win the debate, kill the debater. This is what you are all espousing. Don't worry, Charlie and his cause will continue with 100x the vigor it had last week.

You lack reading comprehension skills. Not one person in this thread wished Kirk killed. If you have a fact-based criticism let's hear it.

 

[MtnMan]

I am as outraged as republicans were when Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman was assassinated in a shooting at her home this past June.

 

[HomerJS]

Repulsive, disgusting, nauseating pieces of shit hate mongering racist cocksuckers. Party of love and peace. Whatever.

Really? Example. Or are you upset most of us aren't crying a river right now?

Your reading skills are as bad as @Hulk since almost all of us have stated this kind of political violence is unacceptable and will do more harm in the future.

But don't let facts get in the way of your name calling.

 

[brycejones]

Repulsive, disgusting, nauseating pieces of shit hate mongering racist cocksuckers. Party of love and peace. Whatever.

that is an accurate description of the Republican Party.

 

[MtnMan]

"Sources say". Such a thing would never stick as it is blatant discrimination.

Wait! You say it won't stand because it is discrimination. The SCOTUS just ruled that it is perfectly OK for law enforcement to target people because of their skin color or if they speak Spanish or with an accent. You either need better sources for your information, or just fucking pay attention.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/08/us/politics/supreme-court-immigration-racial-profiling.html

 

[brycejones]

It’s funny watching all the people who claim to hate p&n show up to shit post and run instead of engaging in the dialog they claim to so desperately want to see.

 

[nOOky]

Charlie Kirk was another in a long line of conservative voices that warped the young minds of too many that followed him. I won't celebrate his death, there is at least one other horrible person I'd rather see take his place. I'd have preferred he got the Rush Limbaugh treatment, but still that was not painful enough. Thoughts and prayers, let me say that again, thoughts and prayers.

 

[KMFJD]

just a continuous drible of hate and inferiority

thankfully they have kash money and vagina bongo's over at the fbi on the case

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965929432289624348

aw shiit, who hired those guys?

 

[HomerJS]

It’s funny watching all the people who claim to hate p&n show up to shit post and run instead of engaging in the dialog they claim to so desperately want to see.

They just show up to name call expecting us to confirm we wanted Kirk shot. That didn't happen and now they just name call and leave.

 

[IronWing]

He's dead but he was right. Sucks for him but whole "If we could save just one life" spiel was always nonsense.

No, he was wrong but now he’s dead and we can move on to build a better world without his degenerate toxins polluting our discourse.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Nothing good coming out of this. The last major shooting of a fascist leader was quickly followed by Musk pouring hundreds of millions into Trump’s campaign and getting the fascist elected. Anyone who thinks the assassination of this fascist is going to be helpful may be disappointed. Kirk was an absolute horrible trash human and absent any other context the country is better off without these hate peddlers. Kirk was actively causing harm and was a net negative for the world. He stoked and justified the sort of sentiment that leads to political violence. However, given the political climate, there’s a meaningful chance this is a tipping point for net-negative consequences even though 75% or so of the populace probably never heard of the guy. He didn’t deserve to get sniped in public like that. He is likely to become a martyr to the cause among the people who are fans of his hateful propaganda. MAGA will dine out on this for… well, forever. Charlie Kirk is about to become the Monster’s Horst Wessel.

All this hand wringing aside ...We live in a post truth society; people are going to believe whatever they want. We’re so far past the point where removing part of Charlie Kirk’s corotid artery in public will move the needle. Normal doesn’t matter anymore.

This man reaped what he sowed. Kirk said that gun deaths are a price society has to be willing to pay to protect the 2nd amendment. However when he said that, he obviously meant other people’s deaths, like school children. He didn’t mean his own death.

Thoughts go out to his innocent children.

 

[brycejones]

He's dead but he was right. Sucks for him but whole "If we could save just one life" spiel was always nonsense.

Weird I don’t see the guns give us freedoms bunch stepping up to prevent wholesale 4th amendment violations by the federal government.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

No one here has advocated for Kirk's death.

I will. His life only served to make others' lives worse. The world is better off without him.

 

[quikah]

Turning Point USA Founder Charlie Kirk Encourages Audience to Post Bail for Paul Pelosi’s Attacker: ‘Why Is He Still in Jail?’ (Video)

David DePape was charged with federal assault and attempted kidnapping by the Department of Justice on Monday

www.yahoo.com

Yeah, I can read, can you? Where does he call Depape a patriot?

 

[IronWing]

When you can't win the debate, kill the debater. This is what you are all espousing. Don't worry, Charlie and his cause will continue with 100x the vigor it had last week.

Considering that the conservatives are literally grabbing people off the streets and sending them to foreign concentration camps, you can fuck right off.

 

[brycejones]

Yeah, I can read, can you? Where does he call Depape a patriot?

If he doesn’t view him as a patriot and approve of his actions then why would it make one a patriot to bail him out of jail?

 

[dank69]

Do I need to qualify that with "within our country"? ...

We had to put down a bunch of confederates within our country...

True, and that's a good thing. The problem is the masses gang up on someone with a different opinion, which is no fun, and they leave. ...

Like the way normal people gang up on flerfers? Maybe conservatives should stop basing their beliefs on demonstrable lies? No, that can't be right...

You're telling me you haven't seen people wanting the republicans to go away?

I want the Republican Party to go away. That doesn't mean I want one party rule. Our voting system always results in 2 parties.

 

[HomerJS]

Turning Point USA Founder Charlie Kirk Encourages Audience to Post Bail for Paul Pelosi’s Attacker: ‘Why Is He Still in Jail?’ (Video)

David DePape was charged with federal assault and attempted kidnapping by the Department of Justice on Monday

www.yahoo.com

Here is Kirk celebrating Pelosi's attacker

Referring to various conspiracies, conservative talk radio host Charlie Kirk called for an "amazing patriot" from among his audience to "be a midterm hero" by deciding to "bail out" DePape "and then go ask him some questions

Attack on Paul Pelosi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I guess you are cool with that, right??

 

[eelw]

Thoughts go out to his innocent children.

Unfortunately I doubt they are being raised with proper values. A woman willing to marry such a vile person won’t be any better. But now they are truly messed up after today

 

[Moonbeam]

Is it true that Trump enablers in congress and the Supreme Court, among state governors and legislatures are also enabling the destruction of American democracy and does that not make them guilty essentially of treason, if not exactly technically? And is not the crime of treason punishable by death? Seems to me that the Democratic Party should be making that part of their political intention to bring the enablers to justice if they can retake the reigns of power. Leaving the only option for justice to be served as extrajudicial assassinations, in my opinion is sinful.

Killings like this should never happen and there would be no need for people to stoop to that last resort if Democrats campaigned with the threat of it legally as a voter option. The problem with Democrats is the lack of nerve to promise and deliver what justice can legally demand. Conservatives are self seeking cowards because they know it pays to go along with the rest of the cult. Assassinations happen because the desperation created by the fact there is no justice and a lack of commitment to it.

How sad does life have to be when assassination is the only hope. Politicians are supposed to serve the people not Trump or fascism. Some at least are starting to get nasty and Trump is only to happy to fuck himself.

If there is no hell in the afterlife, the punishment for causing human misery should be paid for here in this one and legally out of principle.

 

[quikah]

Here is Kirk celebrating Pelosi's attacker

Attack on Paul Pelosi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I guess you are cool with that, right??

He was in the "lovers quarrel" conspiracy camp. He was saying that someone should bail him out to the get the real story. But go ahead and believe whatever story makes you feel better about yourself for your hatred of him. 🤷‍♂️

 

[NWRMidnight]

When you can't win the debate, kill the debater. This is what you are all espousing. Don't worry, Charlie and his cause will continue with 100x the vigor it had last week.

What? Anytime Charlie Kirk was debated by someone armed with actual facts, Charlie Kirk was destroyed. The Problem is you have been programmed to not believe the actual facts, so you walk around believing he always came out the winner in debates because he spewed the talking points you are prgrammed to believe. His death has nothing to do with winning/losing debates. I don't condone what happen, but I don't have any empathy that it happened. You can't go thru life spewing lies, misinformation to push a narrative, and not pay the piper at some point, death was just a higher cost than anyone should ever wish for. I do however have a huge amount of empathy for his family and what it will do to them.