Charlie Kirk shot in the neck during Utah debate and has now passed.

[SteveGrabowski]

you do not beat charlie kirk and donald trump by being worse than them. fact.

LOL not giving a shit about Charlie Kirk is being worse than Trump. Where do you come up with this shit?

 

[Drach]

While I thought the guy was a douche bag I feel sadness for his family especially his young kids that now won't have a father. He might have been an awesome dad. Politics doesn't disqualify you as being a good parent.

 

[kage69]

your bloodthirst doesn't reflect on whats actually going on. maybe 4chan wants people to die, but the average conservative has done nothing that you're accusing them of.

Go look at the numbers for domestic terrorism since 2016 before you lecture others on what's going on. Conservatives, particularly the culture war twat variety, were more incensed by the green M&M losing heels than they were at a coup attempt to overthrow an election, which resulted in dead and seriously wounded people. Look at election denial now, still as strong and pathetic as ever.

So no, I don't think you have any clue what "the average conservative" is ok with. Religulous people can excuse anything it seems, hell the proof is the senile pedo traitor in the White House right fucking now.

In a 2023 survey, PRRI found that one in three Republicans believed that "true American patriots" might need to use violence to "save the country". The figures were even higher for white evangelical Protestants and those who believe the 2020 election was stolen.




Carry that water though, don't stop now...

 

[Paratus]

thats great man, compare yourself to trump, like all american liberals aspire to do... lmao like what?


you don't have to morun him, but people coming out to say they're glad he's dead is objectively unhinged

we get it. You are in the revolution to overthrow the US and you would like it to be bloodless so you are telling “liberals” to let it be bloodless because today (and not the assassinated democrats, or ICE illegally incarcerating people, or any of the other illegal or violent actions on the right) you suddenly realized it might not be bloodless.

 

[IronWing]

yeah, just because you want a million people to die in a civil war, doesn't mean the rest of us in the real world want to


Even if fox news was promoting murder daily (they arent), why do you want to stoop to that level?

because you support murder?

your bloodthirst doesn't reflect on whats actually going on. maybe 4chan wants people to die, but the average conservative has done nothing that you're accusing them of.

meanwhile, again, people literally support the death of charlie kirk in this thread. This place is literally full of extremists.

The average American conservative voted for Trump and very much wants people to die.

 

[kage69]

While I thought the guy was a douche bag I feel sadness for his family.

Same. Part of me wonders though, might his kids be better off long term without a father figure who sees empathy as a disease? If you promote evil, doesn't that make you a shitty dad? Trump again works as proof of concept here I think.

 

[e2dog32021]

F * U* C.K. , burn in hell, and hope your supreme leader gives you company shortly from natural causes ..

 

[dr1337]

In a 2023 survey, PRRI found that one in three Republicans believed that "true American patriots" might need to use violence to "save the country".

So you're pretending like the revolution and the civil war didn't exist?

The figures were even higher for white evangelical Protestants and those who believe the 2020 election was stolen.

yeah because thats the logicial supposition for someone in that mindstate? And extremists who think trump is a real true to life nazi also might support violence in exactly the same way?

Go look at the numbers for domestic terrorism since 2016 before you lecture others on what's going on.

Sorry but how many mass shooting or terrorst attacks are you personally a victim of? I have traveled across the country in my years both for lesuire and for work and I can assure you, the average human being doesn't act they way most people do on P&N, let alone this supposed any tendency towards violence. I have been friends with, worked with, and worked for republicans, democrats, jewish people, muslims, and everywhere in between in my life and I can say without a doubt the average person does not feel extreme towards human life.

I understand these are statististics and the way things may skew, but its not like we're looking at 90/10 splits are we? why are you trying to equate 1 in 3 (in a survey) as an average?

You are in the revolution to overthrow the US and you would like it to be bloodless so you are telling “liberals” to let it be bloodless because today (and not the assassinated democrats, or ICE illegally incarcerating people, or any of the other illegal or violent actions on the right) you suddenly realized it might not be bloodless.

yeah sorry for not wanting my party to stoop to violence

just because you want blood doesn't mean we needed it. major national socialist vibes

you guys just want us to pull a night of broken glass against the republicans? wait... gotta pull a night of the long knives and murder all the 'wrongthinkers' in your party first huh?

there really is no presumption for blood, in a civilized democracy people don't murder each other, especially for political reasons. This wasn't a fucking duel or anything socialized. A human was murdered and dehumanizing him should be taboo but somehow its not... Seriously... we don't want this on our side. thinking its okay on their side only makes things way way worse

 

[dr1337]

The average American conservative voted for Trump and very much wants people to die.

You spend a lot of time with these people eh?

 

[Drach]

F * U* C.K. , burn in hell, and hope your supreme leader gives you company shortly from natural causes ..

Rough but possibly deserving. He reminded me of the lead up of the Nazi party.

 

[Hulk]

What? Anytime Charlie Kirk was debated by someone armed with actual facts, Charlie Kirk was destroyed. The Problem is you have been programmed to not believe the actual facts, so you walk around believing he always came out the winner in debates because he spewed the talking points you are prgrammed to believe. His death has nothing to do with winning/losing debates. I don't condone what happen, but I don't have any empathy that it happened. You can't go thru life spewing lies, misinformation to push a narrative, and not pay the piper at some point, death was just a higher cost than anyone should ever wish for. I do however have a huge amount of empathy for his family and what it will do to them.

Yeah right. Charlie never even got close to losing a debate with any liberal idiot, he shut everyone down. Most stomped off or changed their minds and voted for Trump. Result was a win of the popular vote. That's why they had to kill him. He was unbeatable and his logic absolutely on point.

Most of the posts I am reading here are political violence is bad but "I'm glad he's dead."

Charlie will live on in all of us who believe in all that is true and beautiful.

 

[IronWing]

You spend a lot of time with these people eh?

Armed thugs are kidnapping people off the streets of America and deporting them to foreign concentration camps right now. Conservatives voted for this. They knew what they were voting for. Any person who voted for Trump in 2024 is a straight up Nazi. No excuses for what they chose to inflict on this country.

 

[Hulk]

Rough but possibly deserving. He reminded me of the lead up of the Nazi party.

Then you don't know shit about the build up to the Nazi party.
Brown shirts beating the shit out of people, etc.. sounds a lot more like the demoncratic party to me.

Nazi's used Democratic South created Jim Crow laws against Jews.

Nazi's sent those who spoke out against the party to "camps."

Just shut up with your lies and nonsense.

 

[IronWing]

Then you don't know shit about the build up to the Nazi party.
Brown shirts beating the shit out of people, etc.. sounds a lot more like the demoncratic party to me.

Nazi's used Democratic South created Jim Crow laws against Jews.

Nazi's sent those who spoke out against the party to "camps."

Just shut up with your lies and nonsense.

Fuck off, Nazi.

 

[zinfamous]

You're telling me you haven't seen people wanting the republicans to go away?

Republicans are a death cult and they are the most dangerous entity that humanity faces today; so yes, they are a problem that needs to be remedied.

 

[kage69]

So you're pretending like the revolution and the civil war didn't exist?

No, you're just being a pussy ass bitch running from facts. An unimaginative one too, ugh. There's no British king from afar subjugating people here, or wealthy slave owners convincing their pockets are worth others fighting for. Numbers only matter if I'm somehow personally involved?? Wow, wtf man, way to sound like mind fucked zealot who is petrified of giving honest answers.

Just going to toss context out the window, that's essentially your well, I wouldn't call those answers. That's the swill you're going with?

You know what I think we're done here, now that I see what you're willing to smear all over yourself I'll just go stand over there...up wind... You have fun with whatever it is you're going for here, you're doin great

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Fuck off, Nazi.

d1D U kN0w tEH coNf3deR@cY Wuz wE@lLY d3M0cR@pS 165 yEaRZ aG0?

 

[kage69]

Charlie never even got close to losing a debate with any liberal idiot, he shut everyone down.

Kids do it. Did it.

 

[zinfamous]

Then you don't know shit about the build up to the Nazi party.
Brown shirts beating the shit out of people, etc.. sounds a lot more like the demoncratic party to me.

Nazi's used Democratic South created Jim Crow laws against Jews.

Nazi's sent those who spoke out against the party to "camps."

Just shut up with your lies and nonsense.

This guy thinks that Democrats Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms that were part of the Democrat south are the same Democrats that he hates today. This guy is fucking stupid, or he simply can't read, really. He certainly isn't going to touch a book that dares tell him anything close to the truth.

This guy is worse than illiterate: he's willfully ignorant and is shameless about spreading easily-discredited lies about history to make a terrible argument. But he does it to defend his Nazi allies in today's republican party. He also will never be able to show us any democrats beating up people. But he doesn't care that republicans are building concentration camps all over the country for "the others" (Exactly what we told these chromasomaly-challenged voters that they are voting for, and yet they called us crazy); he doesn't care that masked, unbadged thugs are pretending to be ICE agents and kidnapping people off the street to disappear them. Literally every fucking day.

He doesn't care that his Nazi party is controlled by insurrectionists and pedophiles. Hulk is completely without shame that he proudly supports these violent rapists and pedophiles, which are plain facts about his party. He can't deny it, he can only pretend it isn't true, by grossly misrepresenting history whenever it is necessary to defend his Nazified ego. He probably doesn't know how he got to be a Nazi, surrounded by a party full of Nazi pedophiles, but that is literally where Hulk finds himself right now, like a lot of Germans that never voted for the Nazi party, but just blithely accepted the new order because that guy was "saying all the right things at the time,"

Of course we told Hulk all of this, again and again and again, for years and years, but he didn't want to listen. Now here he is, inarguably championing the cause of Nazis and pedophiles and he simply doesn't give a fuck. I guess there's only one way to label a person like that.

How did you find yourself here, Hulk? And why do you refuse to admit it, apologize, move on and fix your fucking self? Do you want to continue allying with Nazi pedophiles and voting for them and buying their bitcoin and doing everything to defend every single one of their Nazi pedophile policies? Is that really what you wanted? Do you really hate yourself this much? Are these the only people that you could find that like to hang out with you? Seriously, what is going on? It's probably not too late, you know...

 

[zinfamous]

When you can't win the debate, kill the debater. This is what you are all espousing. Don't worry, Charlie and his cause will continue with 100x the vigor it had last week.

so 100x the trans hate and calling for violence against literally everyone that can read?

How did this work out for Charlie Kirk, again?

How many times have they gone after Trump?

This isn't any kind of flex, you know? Hate only gets hate. Keep trying though, I'm sure you'll eventually win the prize you seek.

 

[zinfamous]

Repulsive, disgusting, nauseating pieces of shit hate mongering racist cocksuckers. Party of love and peace. Whatever.

fuck off, Nazi. And go eat a store full of dicks, please.

.....oh sorry, my mistake! you were talking about the murdered hate-monger that called for violence against an entire political party and large demographics of humans. Carry on then, clearly you had no respect for the hateful, violent, rage-filled Charlie Kirk that never wanted your empathy. Remember: you're weak for even having empathy.

 

[Drach]

Then you don't know shit about the build up to the Nazi party.
Brown shirts beating the shit out of people, etc.. sounds a lot more like the demoncratic party to me.

Nazi's used Democratic South created Jim Crow laws against Jews.

Nazi's sent those who spoke out against the party to "camps."

Just shut up with your lies and nonsense.

Thank you for the comedic response . I truly enjoyed it. Thank you Zin for having your head screwed on tighter than mine.

 

[MrSquished]

Condolences

 

[sactoking]

Man who advocates for indifference to gun violence against children is killed on the same day that more gun violence is perpetrated against innocent children. And some people are more outraged by the former than the latter.

 

[zinfamous]

I disagreed with Charlie Kirk and felt that Gavin Newsome doing a podcast with him was beyond weak and emblematic of what is wrong with the Democratic Party.

His murder at a public event raises all sorts of concerns about the First Amendment in regards to those who rely on it to be able to speak their minds about controversial heated topics in online video streams and other forums.

Now I am worried about revenge assassinations. Given these intensely divisive times I'd say it's a real risk.




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usually, people that traffic solely in hate and violence only seem to attract these things to them. eventually, they will come face to face with the monsters they create. example: the entire history of humanity. Historically, democrats and liberals attract assassins that are sent out to stop them from ending hate and violence.

It would be sad and a certain bit silly to confuse the history of motivations for these regrettable incidents.