Car Tailgates Cyclist - Car Gets Pulled Over

[Schfifty Five]

I have a car too.

So now do I not need to pay tax/tag/insurance on my weekend car, trailer, motorcycle, wife's car, boat, boat trailer?


Ciclists are literally the only object on the road that think they shouldn't have to pay taxes. Yet they demand more special treatment than anyone else. It boggles my mind that you all even try to make these ridiculous illogical arguments while being the most dangerous things on the roadways.

SA, do you hate ciclists but love motorcylists?

 

[Schfifty Five]

I think this varies quite a bit based on the area.


Where I live, we have bike lanes but the lance armstrong wanna-bes refuse to use them. They claim they are "held up" by slower ciclists, however it's somehow acceptable for them to hold up the roadways...


We have lots of 45mph 2-lane roads. Even the most lance armtrongiest ciclists cannot even come close to keeping up.

So, they "hold the lane", the ride in the very center. Once there's a line of 10-20 cars behind them, they start to pass.

So begins the process of zooming by the moronic ciclist, totally unaware of the danger he's creating for both himself and motorists.



Then... After 10-20 cars have passed the ciclist, we come up to a red light. What does the ciclist do? All the sudden he doesn't want to follow the rules of the road, and filters to the front of the red light just to hold everyone up all over again.

10-20 people with ~20 minutes added to their commute. 20 more minutes of pollution, traffic, and time all due to the moronic ciclists which only follow laws that benefit them and swap between being a car/ciclist/pedstrian on a whim.

That is down right annoying. I've only seen it happen once though (I'm in TX, so not as many cyclists around).

 

[BikeJunkie]

This is why motorists despise you.

They despise him because he refuses to do something that's quite literally impossible to accomplish?

No, they despise him because they're impatient all-important fucktards who exhibit each and every one of the behaviors for which they demonize cyclists, all while failing to recognize the inherent differences in the consequences of those behaviors when committed by each of the two groups.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Now this thread is complete.

God forbid SA let a thread about cyclists pass without saying something stupid.

I have a car too.

So now do I not need to pay tax/tag/insurance on my weekend car, trailer, motorcycle, wife's car, boat, boat trailer?


Ciclists are literally the only object on the road that think they shouldn't have to pay taxes. Yet they demand more special treatment than anyone else. It boggles my mind that you all even try to make these ridiculous illogical arguments while being the most dangerous things on the roadways.

Shine on, you crazy diamond.

 

[Brainonska511]

God forbid SA let a thread about anything pass without saying something stupid.

FTFY

 

[SpatiallyAware]

That is down right annoying. I've only seen it happen once though (I'm in TX, so not as many cyclists around).

It happens around here a couple times a month, that I notice. And I have a very short commute to my office.

If it's saturday/sunday, or off hours, then I totally get it. They need to exercise, and practicing for the olympics (in their head anyway) is really tough.

But to do this 'holding back traffic just to filter to the front at redlights' during rush hour is amazingly rude.

 

[ch33zw1z]

It happens around here a couple times a month, that I notice. And I have a very short commute to my office.

If it's saturday/sunday, or off hours, then I totally get it. They need to exercise, and practicing for the olympics (in their head anyway) is really tough.

But to do this 'holding back traffic just to filter to the front at redlights' during rush hour is amazingly rude.

So what you're saying is that you would rather see a cyclist using hte lane, following all traffic laws, like the cyclist in the OP. Cool with me.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

So what you're saying is that you would rather see a cyclist using hte lane, following all traffic laws, like the cyclist in the OP. Cool with me.

I would rather see ciclists stop blocking bills that fairly require tax/tag/insurance. They also need to be in the bike lanes that we motorists pay for to keep them off the road.

It's a bigger issue than 1 ciclist.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I would rather see ciclists stop blocking bills that fairly require tax/tag/insurance. They also need to be in the bike lanes that we motorists pay for to keep them off the road.

It's a bigger issue than 1 ciclist.

You didn't answer the question. The cyclist in the OP was doing what he was supposed to. The driver of the car got the ticket he deserved.

Not every town, city, etc.. has a bike lane. And if there is a bike lane, they're probably required to use it.

 

[highland145]

Not every town, city, etc.. has a bike lane. And if there is a bike lane, they're probably required to use it.

We have one in my city of 35K. It actually goes by my house. There were some designated funds that had to be spent on it. It's about 300yds long and ends in a ditch. I believe SA was the traffic planner for this one.



Sometimes I use it. Depends on how much yard debris has been put out or parked cars.

 

[ch33zw1z]

We have one in my city of 35K. It actually goes by my house. There were some designated funds that had to be spent on it. It's about 300yds long and ends in a ditch. I believe SA was the traffic planner for this one.



Sometimes I use it. Depends on how much yard debris has been put out or parked cars.

lol....

 

[BikeJunkie]

I would rather see ciclists stop blocking bills that fairly require tax/tag/insurance. They also need to be in the bike lanes that we motorists pay for to keep them off the road.

It's a bigger issue than 1 ciclist.

Please answer his question. And wtf is a "ciclist"?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Please answer his question. And wtf is a "ciclist"?

SA often misspells words (presumably inadvertently), then sticks with his misspelling after it has been pointed out. It's hard to know where on the ignorance-pride-trolling spectrum that behavior sits, but there's no question he likes being annoying by staying with the misspelling.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

You didn't answer the question. The cyclist in the OP was doing what he was supposed to. The driver of the car got the ticket he deserved.

Not every town, city, etc.. has a bike lane. And if there is a bike lane, they're probably required to use it.

What question.......??


Based on the short video, yes, the ciclist was following all laws and I have no problem with him. If he is one that follows all laws of the road then he's a very rare case and good for him.

Many ciclists try to act like most follow the laws and you only see the bad apples, but that is not at all the case.

 

[ch33zw1z]

What question.......??


Based on the short video, yes, the ciclist was following all laws and I have no problem with him. If he is one that follows all laws of the road then he's a very rare case and good for him.

Many ciclists try to act like most follow the laws and you only see the bad apples, but that is not at all the case.

So now you keep tabs on all cyclists? Impressive.

Many motorists try to act like all cyclists are bad apples and a good cyclist is rare, but none of us have data to back up these claims. Case by case dude...you're not all knowing. So sorry that you've had some bad experiences, truly a tragic life you lead.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

So now you keep tabs on all cyclists? Impressive.

Many motorists try to act like all cyclists are bad apples and a good cyclist is rare, but none of us have data to back up these claims. Case by case dude...you're not all knowing. So sorry that you've had some bad experiences, truly a tragic life you lead.

They're extreme hazards. You never know when one is going to decide not to brake and ram into your car. We've seen numerous cases of these on the forums, where they post a youtube video of an accident they cause and try to drum up pro-ciclist drama just to end up pulling the video when they realize they look like insurance-scamming fools.

They're unpredictable. They will swerve from 1ft off the white line to the middle of the lane or further for no reason whatosever. They do not signal. They run red lights and stop signs, and dart between cars where you don't see them until it's too late.

When I rode motorcycles I had to pay very close attention to any of them on the road, as one of these unpredictable ciclists can easily cause you to crash and it is incredibly rare to see one who respects the rules of the road.

Nowadays I still notice them, but in my 4500lb car they can turn themselves into ciclist pudding for all I care. It's a big part of why I have a dashcam running anytime the car is on.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You pretty much just described any asshole on a road, no matter what device they're operating.

Like I said earlier in this thread, I'm a road warrior, and in my xp 2 axle motorists are the biggest road hazard out there...

You should really just vent this stuff on a blog or something..

 

[SpatiallyAware]

You pretty much just described any asshole on a road, no matter what device they're operating.

Like I said earlier in this thread, I'm a road warrior, and in my xp 2 axle motorists are the biggest road hazard out there...

Sure, the big difference is 1 in 10 4 wheeled motorists are assholes, 5 in 10 2 wheeled motorists are assholes, and 9 in 10 ciclists are assholes.

Add on top of that the 4 and 2 wheeled motorists pay for the roads while the ciclists are freeloading assholes and it becomes apparent why ciclists are by far the most hated people on roadways.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Again with the numbers....maybe a foot note reference for these? or are you just pulling them out of your ass? nevermind, we know the answer.

Cyclists are motorists(as in many if not most of them drive cars as well) too. An you're still arguing that a 2 wheeled bicycle causes as much wear and tear on a road as a 2 axle car(or bigger)?

Out of all the things you can argue, that's by far the dumbest.

 

[Schmide]

I have a car too.

So now do I not need to pay tax/tag/insurance on my weekend car, trailer, motorcycle, wife's car, boat, boat trailer?


Ciclists are literally the only object on the road that think they shouldn't have to pay taxes. Yet they demand more special treatment than anyone else. It boggles my mind that you all even try to make these ridiculous illogical arguments while being the most dangerous things on the roadways.

Logically? I hope you understand that in general

Tax is based on the value.
Tag is based on the weight and usage.
Insurance is based on the possible risk of life and property.

So a heavy truck or commercial vehicle has a greater registration cost. This is mostly based on how much affect the usage of said vehicle would have on the roads.

Honestly my ~15lb class bike and the various risks and usage factors, would prob cost $20.

So your lame argument it is not worth the paperwork to require the tax/tag/reg, even with my 190lb manarse weighing down on the road.

 

[Brainonska511]

Out of all the things you can argue, that's by far the dumbest.

I don't know why you're arguing with SA. But I'm sure if you keep it up, he'll find something even dumber to say.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Logically? I hope you understand that in general

Tax is based on the value.
Tag is based on the weight and usage.
Insurance is based on the possible risk of life and property.

So a heavy truck or commercial vehicle has a greater registration cost. This is mostly based on how much affect the usage of said vehicle would have on the roads.

Honestly my ~15lb class bike and the various risks and usage factors, would prob cost $20.

So your lame argument it is not worth the paperwork to require the tax/tag/reg, even with my 190lb manarse weighing down on the road.

The issue is not road wear and tear, it's road usage. $20 per ciclist would go a long way towards putting in bike lanes and forcing you all to use them.


Past that, tagging them would allow law-abiding motorists to call 911 when a ciclist breaks the law. You should all be required to wear numberplates on the back of your spandex.

 

[Schmide]

What part of not worth the paperwork is hard to understand?

Edit: And it is road usage!!! Bikes have generally no affect on the roads.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The issue is not road wear and tear, it's road usage. $20 per ciclist would go a long way towards putting in bike lanes and forcing you all to use them.


Past that, tagging them would allow law-abiding motorists to call 911 when a ciclist breaks the law. You should all be required to wear numberplates on the back of your spandex.

ah, SA, this tells us so much about what you're thinking of when you say "cyclist".

Do you often call 911 when motorists break the law? Such as tailgating, changing lanes without signaling, not stopping completely at a stop sign, or right on red when not allowed? Are you foaming at the mouth yet?

 

[alkemyst]

In all of my life I haven't had a cyclist take up more than 15 seconds of my time. I'm amazed at the amount of anger relative to the magnitude of inconvenience they create.

Depends where you live / the route you take. I have been stopped for more than 20-30 mins by cyclists deciding to take up an entire road. It's very rare, but some groups go out of their way to feed fire to the feud.

I finally called the local police and they broke the group up. There are signs on that road plus a nice bike lane on both sides that allow for 3 riders abreast.