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Canadians don't respect the 2nd Amendment

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norseamd said:
are checkpoints not at the border? thought it was that way on the mexico border. not that any amercian customs officials would ever think of acting in a honest manner with mexicans
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The border is like an invisible wall, you're on one side or the other. In almost every instance you have to physically enter the country you wish to be granted entry to so the officials in that country can deal with you via their laws. There are some exceptions like US preclearance in Canadian airports but even then, if they happen to catch someone doing something stupid they hand him over to the Canadian officials.
 
norseamd said:
believe what i am talking about is easy to find and talked about quite a lot.
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That's just it, what *are* you talking about? You started off with vague talk of Canada as a dependency, have now moved on to some supposed shame of the Queen and Quebec being upset at corruption in the federal govt.

So, what's the issue here? Do you accept that Canada is a fully independent country yet? If so, great, what's the next issue that you want to discuss? If not, then I don't know what else we have to discuss.
 
I think he's talking about the Queen's refusal to get involved in the aboriginal issues. A lot of those treaties were with the British Crown and many bands especially in Quebec/Ontario think that the Queen should intercede.
 
rommelrommel said:
I think he's talking about the Queen's refusal to get involved in the aboriginal issues. A lot of those treaties were with the British Crown and many bands especially in Quebec/Ontario think that the Queen should intercede.
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I figured that was part of it but there are references to federal corruption and Quebec that don't make sense and I still can't figure out if he accepts that Canada is a fully independent country which is where this started off.

And yeah, I understand the treaty issue. I happen to believe that they are wrong and if the monarch ever tried to intervene in any way I would fully support *any* Canadian govt. immediately ending the monarch's role and declaring Canada a republic.

Having said that, the role of successive Canadian govt's, going back to Confederation, in the degradation and ill treatment of Canada's aboriginal peoples is indefensible.
 
norseamd said:
corruption governement officials taking kcikbacks from businessmen and the mafia. especially montreal.
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That's largely city level corruption, it's not like it's uncommon in a major city. Montreal is particularly bad I have to acknowledge. Not sure what this has to do with any of this thread tho?
 
no that is involved at the federal level. do you think it is any different in the us. and toronto is in the corruption shits too apparantly.
 
Victorian Gray said:
If the Queen or Gov.-Gen. in any of the present countries where the monarchy still has a role ever tried anything like you posit, the govt. of the day would simply ignore them and in a very short time, Canada, Australia, or even Britain would simply declare themselves as Republics.

That's why the Queen refused to meet with Aboriginal leaders when things kind of blew up with the Idle No More movement, etc. She knows damn well what would happen if she tried to insert the monarchy into Canada's political process.

The monarchy is theatre and nothing more.
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It has happened just that way in Australia in 1975

The 1975 Australian constitutional crisis (often known simply as "the Dismissal") has been described as the greatest political and constitutional crisis in Australian history. It culminated on 11 November 1975 with the removal of the Prime Minister, Gough Whitlam of the Australian Labor Party (ALP), by Governor-General Sir John Kerr, who then appointed the Leader of the Opposition, Malcolm Fraser, as caretaker Prime Minister.
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This is actually a good thing as it gives the people some form of official recourse if the government is being stubborn. If 20M Canadians phoned up the queen and asked her to boot out the government, she'd be able to do it.
 
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rommelrommel said:
The border is like an invisible wall, you're on one side or the other. In almost every instance you have to physically enter the country you wish to be granted entry to so the officials in that country can deal with you via their laws. There are some exceptions like US preclearance in Canadian airports but even then, if they happen to catch someone doing something stupid they hand him over to the Canadian officials.
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like a border crossing down in mexico where it is within 10 feet of the border. and they have booths that check id or such. so you go 2 feet into the border to be cleared by them and suddenly you can not go back?
 
norseamd said:
you guys just wish americans still did not know how really shitty canada and the corruption really is like americans thought 10 years ago.

so you all voted for stephen harper is that it?
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Fortunately we have Americans like you to keep telling us how shitty things are up here or else we would never know.
 
norseamd said:
like a border crossing down in mexico where it is within 10 feet of the border. and they have booths that check id or such. so you go 2 feet into the border to be cleared by them and suddenly you can not go back?
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I have only been through the Detroit-Windsor crossing but no, you could not turn around. Its basically a one way freeway.
 
We go pheasant hunting here all the time.
I'm standing right on the border there, right hand side is US
Border patrol drove by right after I snapped that pic
Actual border crossing a couple clicks behind me

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norseamd said:
like a border crossing down in mexico where it is within 10 feet of the border. and they have booths that check id or such. so you go 2 feet into the border to be cleared by them and suddenly you can not go back?
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Are you really this dense? You are committed at that point and can't just turn around. Think about the implications of what you are saying. Oh, I'm smuggling a kilo of coke but they are searching people today, I think I'll just turn around and try again later.

Is that really how you would want US border crossings to work as well?
 
Victorian Gray said:
It's where members of the opposition parties get to ask direct questions of the Prime Minister and Cabinet Ministers in the sitting Parliament. It can be riveting. It can be absurd. It can be anywhere in between.

And yeah, heckling happens as well. :biggrin:
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not quite.

You cannot ask a direct question to a Member of Parliament.

All questions are directed at The Speaker of the House. He then allows the respondent to answer which is also directed at The Speaker of the House.
 
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/mont...to-is-dead-and-no-one-knows-whats-coming-next

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/toronto-is-infested-with-mobsters

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/vice-news/teenage-riot-montreal---part-1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_political_scandals

alright so tell me then how your country really is. an amazing place that has little corruption and bigotry. and how the information on the web compares to what it really is like. and how the natives are overreacting to everything. and how anybody not in canada is an ignorant prick who know nothing about canada. but focus on me then. because i clearly said the us is much better. and how your nice little political system up in canada which outsiders would know nothing about is entertaining and amazing. why like americans are so stuck in the corruption of their own governement that they put it in their minds that canada is no longer a place of free medical care that is amazing and where everyone is nice to each other and where every cop rides a horse and has nothing else to do but guide lost campers through the wilderness.

how much better is canada then america really then?
 
rudeguy said:
Please realize that he is a moron even by America's lowered expectations.
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really now is that what everyone thinks of you? or is there a manuscript that needs to be read or everyone will be a dumb enthusiastic hater that can not understand the reality
 
norseamd said:
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/mont...to-is-dead-and-no-one-knows-whats-coming-next

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/toronto-is-infested-with-mobsters

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/vice-news/teenage-riot-montreal---part-1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_political_scandals

alright so tell me then how your country really is. an amazing place that has little corruption and bigotry. and how the information on the web compares to what it really is like. and how the natives are overreacting to everything. and how anybody not in canada is an ignorant prick who know nothing about canada. but focus on me then. because i clearly said the us is much better. and how your nice little political system up in canada which outsiders would know nothing about is entertaining and amazing. why like americans are so stuck in the corruption of their own governement that they put it in their minds that canada is no longer a place of free medical care that is amazing and where everyone is nice to each other and where every cop rides a horse and has nothing else to do but guide lost campers through the wilderness.

how much better is canada then america really then?
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Lots of my family came from Norway too.
They went to Minnesota first, some stayed, lots moved on to Canada
You sound like the retarded part that stayed behind.
Just kidding love my family down there, good people
 
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