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Canadians don't respect the 2nd Amendment

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Victorian Gray said:
Your point?

Do you understand how a constitutional monarchy works?

Do you understand the, admittedly odd, manner in which constitutional monarchies like Canada, New Zealand, Australia and England work?

If you did, you'd understand that what you posted is meaningless.
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Just wanted to see what the response would be from Canadians or Australians. All the sailors I met that served in either the Canadian or Australian Navy did not like the HM designation.
 
For the record, the queen does have very real power in Canada (and other commonwealth countries). She is not just a figurehead. Laws don't become official until the governor general signs them. The queen could very well come to Canada and fire the prime minister and he would officially be out a job. It's not a "oh, you're just a figurehead, you don't have any real power here. go back to england" situation. The PM would actually be out a job.

Of course if that ever actually happened, we'd elect a new PM, then we'd write up a new constitution without the queen, and then ratify it after an official "rebellion".

When the PM prorogues parliament, well, actually, the PM doesn't prorogue parliament - the PM asks the GG to prorogue parliament.
 
moonbeam said:
i took a family member with an interest in dinosaurs on a trip to montana to hunt them. We visited a number on national parks and crossed into canada. I carried a weapon for my relative's protection since we were way off the beaten paths on numerous occasions and camping alone in some real wilderness. I didn't really care what the law was because i wasn't there to do harm. I felt that the person in my care was more important that canada's worries about what a gun carrier might be up to. I didn't think canada had anything to worry about and it turned out to be so. I went in and out without incident, fortunately.
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wtf why hasn't anyone responded to this post?

Question 1: Did you find any dinosaurs?

Question 2: Do you have any pictures?
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Just wanted to see what the response would be from Canadians or Australians. All the sailors I met that served in either the Canadian or Australian Navy did not like the HM designation.
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Ah, ok, that makes sense now. In countries like Australia, New Zealand and Canada the monarchy is gradually becoming less important to folks and I'd guess that within the next 25-30 years will probably be removed as an aspect of govt. for most countries where it currently plays a role.
 
silverpig said:
For the record, the queen does have very real power in Canada (and other commonwealth countries). She is not just a figurehead. Laws don't become official until the governor general signs them. The queen could very well come to Canada and fire the prime minister and he would officially be out a job. It's not a "oh, you're just a figurehead, you don't have any real power here. go back to england" situation. The PM would actually be out a job.

Of course if that ever actually happened, we'd elect a new PM, then we'd write up a new constitution without the queen, and then ratify it after an official "rebellion".

When the PM prorogues parliament, well, actually, the PM doesn't prorogue parliament - the PM asks the GG to prorogue parliament.
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If the Queen or Gov.-Gen. in any of the present countries where the monarchy still has a role ever tried anything like you posit, the govt. of the day would simply ignore them and in a very short time, Canada, Australia, or even Britain would simply declare themselves as Republics.

That's why the Queen refused to meet with Aboriginal leaders when things kind of blew up with the Idle No More movement, etc. She knows damn well what would happen if she tried to insert the monarchy into Canada's political process.

The monarchy is theatre and nothing more.
 
Victorian Gray said:
In some ways we (along with countries like Britain and Australia) have a bit of an odd way of governing ourselves, at least as outsiders might see it. Lot's of folks get tripped up by the theatre of it all. Some things, like the monarchy and it role, just aren't what they might appear to be on the surface. Easy to get confused. 🙂

Ignorance is never a bad thing unless it's willful. Otherwise it simply means that there is something that you don't know/haven't learned about.
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Thanks man.

I have always been very interested in the Monarchy but I never understood how it tied into the "real" government. It's so different than what I'm used to...it's just foreign. Add in how different our "real" governments are and it was like trying to sort out a riddle.

One day I will figure out Parliament and the House of Commons. Or not...stupid British


😛
 
rudeguy said:
is that when people get heckled?
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It's where members of the opposition parties get to ask direct questions of the Prime Minister and Cabinet Ministers in the sitting Parliament. It can be riveting. It can be absurd. It can be anywhere in between.

And yeah, heckling happens as well. :biggrin:
 
Victorian Gray said:
It's where members of the opposition parties get to ask direct questions of the Prime Minister and Cabinet Ministers in the sitting Parliament. It can be riveting. It can be absurd. It can be anywhere in between.

And yeah, heckling happens as well. :biggrin:
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I'd be in favor of that.


....If they all had tasers
 
Victorian Gray said:
No, it's not. You seemed to be stating that Canada was subservient to the Queen and as such was also subservient to Britain. It's not. Canada is a fully independent country and neither the monarchy or Britain has any power over Canada.
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yes that is what i said earlier. i said if the queen tried to conflict with the citizens of canada they would end the monarchy.

by dependencies i meant terretories.
 
Victorian Gray said:
That's why the Queen refused to meet with Aboriginal leaders when things kind of blew up with the Idle No More movement, etc. She knows damn well what would happen if she tried to insert the monarchy into Canada's political process. The monarchy is theatre and nothing more.
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what a shame. seems some famous celebrities returned their diamond jubilee medals because of it. really shameful of her. this may came back as karma on her and i hope it does. not sure why you might think this would cause conflict with the power of the crown. there are more than just bigots in canada and many people are tired of the corrupt canadian government especially in quebec.
 
norseamd said:
but he was at the border not over it
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There's no such thing as "at the border" especially at land border. You're physically in the country even if you haven't been legally admitted yet.

Airports do have transit areas which are a bit different but you'd still be subject to Canadian laws were you found to have a handgun or whatever with you.
 
are checkpoints not at the border? thought it was that way on the mexico border. not that any amercian customs officials would ever think of acting in a honest manner with mexicans
 
norseamd said:
yes that is what i said earlier. i said if the queen tried to conflict with the citizens of canada they would end the monarchy.

by dependencies i meant terretories.
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And Canada is *not* a dependency or territory of Britain. It is *nothing* to Britain except an *ex* colony.
 
norseamd said:
what a shame. seems some famous celebrities returned their diamond jubilee medals because of it. really shameful of her. this may came back as karma on her and i hope it does. not sure why you might think this would cause conflict with the power of the crown. there are more than just bigots in canada and many people are tired of the corrupt canadian government especially in quebec.
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No, it wasn't shameful of her in any way. She was intelligent enough to realize that any involvement on her part would have been pointless and against her constitutional role as monarch.

btw, the returned medals were in response to the Harper govt's actions not the Queen's.

As for the rest of your post, what the heck are you talking about?
 
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