Canada is Dying (documentary)

[FelixDeCat]

Weed is not really part of the issue. That doesn't have the same bad effects as all the hard stuff that people are doing. The people destroying the city are not the ones doing weed, or drinking alcohol. It's the ones doing meth, cocaine, fentanyl and who knows what else is out there these days. Once you get hooked to that stuff your mind is 110% focused on getting the next fix and doing anything to get it including completely destroying other people's property or even lives. We should have compassion and empathy towards the victims of all this crime, not the actual ones doing it.

Its the slippery slope. First you let the pot heads get their legal pot and eventually resistance to drug use and acceptance of any substance becomes the norm regardless of societal effect.

This is why Texas is steadfast in keeping all drugs illegal. We also punish the shit out of people which means its relatively safe to go out at night.

Unfortunately you have two things going on here now - so many people are moving here from other parts of the country bringing their stupid ideas with them and more liberal cities are lowering the standard for possession from arrestable to ticketable amounts of drugs.

Also shops selling modified CBD vape pens are everywhere since its not technically illegal but have about the same effect as smoking weed.

Hopefully we can keep crime under control and keep people in jail who are dangers to society including pot heads, meth heads, fentanyl heads, etc. Drugs are a scourge upon society.

 

[zinfamous]

Even if by chance the needles used at the clinic don't make it out it does not .......................

So you admit that you're wrong about where all the street needles have been coming from and that the only real solution to prevent street needles--basically the only purpose of "that folder of crime" that you created--is the solution that you and your neighbors are trying to shut down?

Now that you understand this, are you going to inform your neighbors that everyone has been wrong?

 

[zinfamous]

Its the slippery slope. First you let the pot heads get their legal pot and eventually resistance to drug use and acceptance of any substance becomes the norm regardless of societal effect.

This is why Texas is steadfast in keeping all drugs illegal. We also punish the shit out of people which means its relatively safe to go out at night.

Unfortunately you have two things going on here now - so many people are moving here from other parts of the country bringing their stupid ideas with them and more liberal cities are lowering the standard for possession from arrestable to ticketable amounts of drugs.

Also shops selling modified CBD vape pens are everywhere since its not technically illegal but have about the same effect as smoking weed.

Hopefully we can keep crime under control and keep people in jail who are dangers to society including pot heads, meth heads, fentanyl heads, etc. Drugs are a scourge upon society.

There is no slippery slope here. There are no gateway drugs. Something like that happens in maybe less than 1% of cases, and certainly isn't enough to keep a local drug empire running, assuming that is your actual concern (I know it's not your actual concern--you just want to judge and punish individual people for the choices that they make which you find "immoral" or "unacceptable." because you're a cvnt).

People that move onto harder drugs already have those tendencies or simply other life reasons that push them there. Basically no one just innocently smokes a joint and then thinks, "Hey, I bet that Heroine is even better!" That's fundy conservative fantasy and has never been true.


and lol that you think Texas is safe to go out at night. LOL! Literally everyone in Texas is under more threat from their family and neighbors shooting them to death or raping them (lots of religious republican pedos in Texas), than they are from drugs. Also, more than half your old white godly christian population in Texas is addicted to oxycontin and other painkillers--so you're a state of fucking drug addicts, certainly way worse than anyone smoking weed. Fuck your immoral trashbrain, felix.

 

[Greenman]

We could make life not so shit for them that they turn to those sorts of drugs.

I known several drug addict's over the years, not a single one came from poverty or neglect.

 

[brycejones]

I known several drug addict's over the years, not a single one came from poverty or neglect.

Well it's solved then.

 

[IronWing]

Its the slippery slope. First you let the pot heads get their legal pot and eventually resistance to drug use and acceptance of any substance becomes the norm regardless of societal effect.

This is why Texas is steadfast in keeping all drugs illegal. We also punish the shit out of people which means its relatively safe to go out at night.

Unfortunately you have two things going on here now - so many people are moving here from other parts of the country bringing their stupid ideas with them and more liberal cities are lowering the standard for possession from arrestable to ticketable amounts of drugs.

Also shops selling modified CBD vape pens are everywhere since its not technically illegal but have about the same effect as smoking weed.

Hopefully we can keep crime under control and keep people in jail who are dangers to society including pot heads, meth heads, fentanyl heads, etc. Drugs are a scourge upon society.

In Texas, you legalized murder so morality and safety not found. Texas seems destined to forever be a shithole.

 

[Captante]

In Texas, you legalized murder so morality and safety not found. Texas seems destined to forever be a shithole.

Felix should fit right in.

 

[iRONic]

Can I has Canada's stuff?

 

[Tsinni Dave]

Can I has Canada's stuff?

A little known fact is that everything up here is actually made of freeze-dried moose poop.

 

[FelixDeCat]

I known several drug addict's over the years, not a single one came from poverty or neglect.

My experience has been the opposite. In my younger years I did experiment and we did not have much money. Some of that stuff was really good and I knew right there how you can become addicted and lose everything.

Sure there are some that can enjoy it and keep their common sense but far too many fall into addiction and destroy themselves and are a drain on society until they overdose and die. That is why I oppose legalization even for weed.

 

[Greenman]

My experience has been the opposite. In my younger years I did experiment and we did not have much money. Some of that stuff was really good and I knew right there how you can become addicted and lose everything.

One of them makes you feel like you are the most famous person in the world or just won the lottery and everyone knows it or if you dont have a single problem in the world. After its over you starting thinking, "More. I want more!"

Sure there are some that can enjoy it and keep their common sense but far too many fall into addiction and destroy themselves and are a drain on society until they overdose and die. That is why I oppose legalization even for weed.

I didn't experiment with drugs, I did full on research.
One night I was wandering through an orchard just before sunrise, totally spaced out on several hits of yellow sunshine, and the thought popped into my frazzled mind that I would never do this again, and I never did.
At the same time, I was hard core hooked on cigarettes for a very long time. It took me years to kick that habit, and to this day I still get the urge to smoke now and then.

 

[FelixDeCat]

I didn't experiment with drugs, I did full on research.
One night I was wandering through an orchard just before sunrise, totally spaced out on several hits of yellow sunshine, and the thought popped into my frazzled mind that I would never do this again, and I never did.
At the same time, I was hard core hooked on cigarettes for a very long time. It took me years to kick that habit, and to this day I still get the urge to smoke now and then.

Yes fresh air and sunshine are addictive but non habit forming and wholesome. Tabbaco however is another one of those things we accepted early on and never gave up.

 

[Meghan54]

Meme someone posted on the local page, a little dark humour...

https://imgur.com/a/DiZOdn5

What did the photographer do, go to the drug store and buy a 10 pack of insulin syringes? They be damned clean for used trash.

 

[Meghan54]

Except they do, they are EVERYWHERE. This is UNDENIABLE. PEOPLE ARE FINDING THEM, IT'S LITERALLY HAPPENING. What is so hard to understand?

Even kids are finding them FFS.

Timmins girl injured by stray syringe

A Timmins mom is calling for action on needles and other sharps after her daughter was injured at a community event.

northernontario.ctvnews.ca

Even MSM is acknowledging it being a problem.

Timmins girl injured by needle highlights persistent problem with used syringes

People in Timmins have been complaining about used needles being discarded around the city, including local parks.

northernontario.ctvnews.ca

They're even being found in grocery stores too now.

This is a quick album I threw together, these pictures were all from mid june and now except for the last one that was in spring when snow as starting to melt, revealing what's under it.

https://imgur.com/a/lnNleTJ

Most taken from here, that's only 1 of the many pages talking about the problem. It's real.

This is a problem, and the government is enabling it. It was not like this before. Don't know why you're trying to defend it, it's NOT FUCKING WORKING. It's making it worse.

If you still don't believe me I'm going to fill a 5 gal pal myself and show you it. What more proof do you need that this is a problem?

Damn…you keep posting staged needle pics. Stop it

 

[Meghan54]

There is no slippery slope here. There are no gateway drugs. Something like that happens in maybe less than 1% of cases, and certainly isn't enough to keep a local drug empire running, assuming that is your actual concern (I know it's not your actual concern--you just want to judge and punish individual people for the choices that they make which you find "immoral" or "unacceptable." because you're a cvnt).

People that move onto harder drugs already have those tendencies or simply other life reasons that push them there. Basically no one just innocently smokes a joint and then thinks, "Hey, I bet that Heroine is even better!" That's fundy conservative fantasy and has never been true.


and lol that you think Texas is safe to go out at night. LOL! Literally everyone in Texas is under more threat from their family and neighbors shooting them to death or raping them (lots of religious republican pedos in Texas), than they are from drugs. Also, more than half your old white godly christian population in Texas is addicted to oxycontin and other painkillers--so you're a state of fucking drug addicts, certainly way worse than anyone smoking weed. Fuck your immoral trashbrain, felix.

Well, in all honesty, there are a few things that could be considered “gateway drugs,” but probably not what most think of.

Typically the first drug kids explore is caffeine (Mountain Dew Code Red, Red Bull, Jolt Cola, etc…), followed by alcohol, as hardcore a drug that exists.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Yeah it's a tough issue especially since lot of them don't want help. I think it could help to go after the traffickers (not the users) but that's probably an endless game too. Enabling them is not the solution though and that seems to be what they're doing.

Governments need to surrender. Just like alcohol it will ruin many lives. But that's just humans for you. Making them illegal and propping up a for profit human warehousing industry will never be a better solution.

 

[brianmanahan]

Governments need to surrender. Just like alcohol it will ruin many lives. But that's just humans for you. Making them illegal and propping up a for profit human warehousing industry will never be a better solution.

did people learn nothing from the war on armadillos?

 

[Red Squirrel]

So you admit that you're wrong about where all the street needles have been coming from and that the only real solution to prevent street needles--basically the only purpose of "that folder of crime" that you created--is the solution that you and your neighbors are trying to shut down?

Now that you understand this, are you going to inform your neighbors that everyone has been wrong?

Nobody is wrong here, the fact still remains that fucking needles are ending up all over the fucking place. And no this is not staged, a little girl stepped on one, I've also run into them myself when our office was down town. This is fucking real and it's getting worse and worse. I don't know why you people actually think it's ok or even defend it. This trash needs to be taken out. Doesn't even fucking matter where they come from the fact is, they are everywhere. You're just gaslighting me at this point.

Governments need to surrender. Just like alcohol it will ruin many lives. But that's just humans for you. Making them illegal and propping up a for profit human warehousing industry will never be a better solution.

The issue with this is that with drugs, it's the general population that suffers. At the very least, they need to start prosecuting and locking up all these scumbags for all the damage they're doing such as break and enters, leaving hazardous waste around, vandalism, trespassing etc. If they want to close their eyes at the drugs themselves it's one thing but at least protect the citizens from this scum when they attack. Or change laws to allow people to defend themselves. Texas has the right idea when it comes to that.

 

[Greenman]

Governments need to surrender. Just like alcohol it will ruin many lives. But that's just humans for you. Making them illegal and propping up a for profit human warehousing industry will never be a better solution.

The problem is you end up with city's like San Francisco and Seattle where drugs and crime are out of control.
I have no issue with a person that want's or needs the escape that drugs give them. But when that person turns to theft to support their chosen lifestyle I have a huge issue with it.

 

[Tsinni Dave]

Nobody is wrong here, the fact still remains that fucking needles are ending up all over the fucking place. And no this is not staged, a little girl stepped on one, I've also run into them myself when our office was down town. This is fucking real and it's getting worse and worse. I don't know why you people actually think it's ok or even defend it. This trash needs to be taken out. Doesn't even fucking matter where they come from the fact is, they are everywhere. You're just gaslighting me at this point.



The issue with this is that with drugs, it's the general population that suffers. At the very least, they need to start prosecuting and locking up all these scumbags for all the damage they're doing such as break and enters, leaving hazardous waste around, vandalism, trespassing etc. If they want to close their eyes at the drugs themselves it's one thing but at least protect the citizens from this scum when they attack. Or change laws to allow people to defend themselves. Texas has the right idea when it comes to that.

The bolded part could easily describe tourists.
And let me get this straight - RedSquirrel wants Canada to take lessons from Texas? Rather than turn Canada into that, why not just fucking move? Seems like a paradise awaits you.

 

[IronWing]

The problem is you end up with city's like San Francisco and Seattle where drugs and crime are out of control.
I have no issue with a person that want's or needs the escape that drugs give them. But when that person turns to theft to support their chosen lifestyle I have a huge issue with it.

They turn to theft because drugs are expensive. Drugs are expensive because of prohibition. Stop propping up drug prices and crime goes down.

 

[brycejones]

They turn to theft because drugs are expensive. Drugs are expensive because of prohibition. Stop propping up drug prices and crime goes down.

shhh....don't try to logic Greenman

 

[Red Squirrel]

They turn to theft because drugs are expensive. Drugs are expensive because of prohibition. Stop propping up drug prices and crime goes down.

These people have no jobs, doesn't matter how cheap the drugs are they'll just do more of them, and they'll still steal and do crime.


Poilieve has the right idea and lots of common sense ideas. Unfortunately, common sense does not belong in government, so he'll probably not get elected. This is also a issue that spans multiple jurisdictions so all jurisdictions need to be on the same page, and they're not. That's also part of the problem.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1390934278128593

Good article on safe injection sites as well: https://www.heritage.org/public-hea...ent-safe-effective-or-wise-just-ask-canadians

 

[FelixDeCat]

These people have no jobs, doesn't matter how cheap the drugs are they'll just do more of them, and they'll still steal and do crime.


Poilieve has the right idea and lots of common sense ideas. Unfortunately, common sense does not belong in government, so he'll probably not get elected. This is also a issue that spans multiple jurisdictions so all jurisdictions need to be on the same page, and they're not. That's also part of the problem.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1390934278128593

Good article on safe injection sites as well: https://www.heritage.org/public-hea...ent-safe-effective-or-wise-just-ask-canadians

Exactly. Legalization is the solution to nothing. The only ones who win are American and Mexican drug cartels.

 

[Greenman]

They turn to theft because drugs are expensive. Drugs are expensive because of prohibition. Stop propping up drug prices and crime goes down.

There is a lower limit to the price. Production cost, transportation, street sales. Everyone gets a cut.
Personally, I think simply illegalizing everything is a mistake that will create more problems than it solves.