Canada is Dying (documentary)

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Vic

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Anyway, the drug war increased crime not decreased it. That's because the drug war was never intended to reduce crime but as a means for corrupt govt and people in power to lock up "undesirables" through selective enforcement.
Drug use occurs in all parts of society, but while police regularly look the other way at some drug users, studies show roughly half of all field drug tests that result in convictions were false positives. That's a feature of the drug war, not a bug.
 

brycejones

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cytg111

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dlerious

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Fact is that some cities in the US have let things get largely out of hand .... looking @ you SF and Portland OR in particular.

I fully support "safe-injection" and all "harm-reduction" tactics to KEEP PEOPLE FROM DYING but letting repeat offenders walk sans bail and "hands-off" shoplifting policies (for examples) make things worse for the average guy not better.

You wonder why the freaking DEODORANT is displayed under lock and key in many pharmacies now? Stop wondering.
Things are pretty bad in Philadelphia where xylazine has crept into heroin/fentanyl.
 
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hal2kilo

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Things are pretty bad in Philadelphia where xylazine has crept into heroin/fentanyl.
It's happening all over. Need emergency legislation, like what happened to Qualudes/Mandrax. Government determined their was no legitimate use for this drug and totally banned it's manufacture and importation. Not sure though if xylazine is "stuff seems to be falling off the backs of vet medical supply trucks" or not situation though.
 

Fenixgoon

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Back when I was in school we had DARE, now they're teaching people how to snort cocaine lol.

Boggles my mind that people are actually for this.

If you follow the article back to the actual quote from the school
In a series of social media statements, the Cowichan Valley School District confirmed the basics of Gunn’s story, but said the kit had been distributed by a “third party” and was not in keeping with district policy.

“We were recently made aware of materials that were left at one of our school sites from a third-party harm reduction and drug addiction presentation that we do not consider school or age appropriate,” wrote the district on Sunday, adding that it was undertaking a “full investigation” of its policies regarding third-party presentations.

So not only did the school not hand out materials, the materials were 1) left behind 2) not as part of official district policy 3) not considered ages appropriate (so one has to wonder how this presentation even got approved in the first place

Should parents be pissed? Sure.
Is the linked story an exaggeration of what happened? Apparently so

And of course, the article you referenced, and the article that article references, do not link to the original statements by the school district.
 

sdifox

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He probably thinks this is the Canadian channel and not an Indian right wing rag

Wait I take that back. He knows it is a right wing rag...
 

Red Squirrel

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So would it be ok if the CCFR (a 3rd party) just walked into a school and dropped off a bunch of guns with literature on how to shoot them properly?

Whether or not it was a 3rd party that did it does not really justify that it was allowed. But this is what the "safe supply" people seem to be pushing for. Lots of money to be made from this drug pushing agenda. Get kids hooked on it young so they are customers forever. At the end of the day this is what it's about, money.
 

brycejones

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Back when I was in school we had DARE, now they're teaching people how to snort cocaine lol.

Boggles my mind that people are actually for this.


Well DARE has been repeatedly proven to be ineffective at preventing drug abuse. So I'm not sure what the point of mentioning DARE is.

Also yeah, I'll take lying by omission for $1000 in regards to the accuracy of the linked article. So all you're effectively doing to spready misinformation.

Are you proud about that?

BTW @Red Squirrel can you explain what the "math agenda" is?
 

brycejones

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So would it be ok if the CCFR (a 3rd party) just walked into a school and dropped off a bunch of guns with literature on how to shoot them properly?

Whether or not it was a 3rd party that did it does not really justify that it was allowed. But this is what the "safe supply" people seem to be pushing for. Lots of money to be made from this drug pushing agenda. Get kids hooked on it young so they are customers forever. At the end of the day this is what it's about, money.
Oh man are you going to be pissed when you learn about the Pharmaceutical industry.
 

Red Squirrel

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Well DARE has been repeatedly proven to be ineffective at preventing drug abuse. So I'm not sure what the point of mentioning DARE is.

Also yeah, I'll take lying by omission for $1000 in regards to the accuracy of the linked article. So all you're effectively doing to spready misinformation.

Are you proud about that?

BTW @Red Squirrel can you explain what the "math agenda" is?

It is true that DARE did not turn out to work that great, but at very least it had intention of trying to get people to not do drugs. Now the stuff they're doing is actually encouraging people to do drugs. I mean just look at BC and their "safe supply" program, it's mind boggling just how terrible of an idea all of it is. But people are making money off it, so it won't go away any time soon.

No idea what the math agenda is, this thread is the first time I hear of it.
 

MrSquished

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It is true that DARE did not turn out to work that great, but at very least it had intention of trying to get people to not do drugs. Now the stuff they're doing is actually encouraging people to do drugs. I mean just look at BC and their "safe supply" program, it's mind boggling just how terrible of an idea all of it is. But people are making money off it, so it won't go away any time soon.

No idea what the math agenda is, this thread is the first time I hear of it.

The saddest thing is that you're the way you are without any drugs.
 

Captante

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It is true that DARE did not turn out to work that great, but at very least it had intention of trying to get people to not do drugs. Now the stuff they're doing is actually encouraging people to do drugs. I mean just look at BC and their "safe supply" program, it's mind boggling just how terrible of an idea all of it is. But people are making money off it, so it won't go away any time soon.

No idea what the math agenda is, this thread is the first time I hear of it.

DARE was a complete abject failure in every measurable sense of the word.

"Good intentions" = the difference between murder and manslaughter ... somebody is still dead.