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Can employer force you to get flu vaccine?

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In a medical setting, where you are in contact with sick people or treat sick people, I would say it is a very reasonable request and probably better for all concerned. Now if it is in the private job sector, then it would be up to you to get it or not.
 
For me it's pretty simple. If I get the shot, I will absolutely be sick for 2 days. If I don't get the shot, I might be sick for 2-3 days. I think I'll take my chances. I don't know why but my immune system goes crazy after some shots, and every flu shot I've had sets it off. I'll admit I only tried it two years, but it happened both times. Within an hour of the shot I had a fever and massive body aches, nausea and itchy sticky eyes. Lasted about 2 days each time. Did the same thing when I was getting hepatitis inoculations. Must be allergic or something.
 
I don't see harm in getting the flu shot, or jobs in high risk areas requiring immunizations and vaccines.

That said, the flu shot is only about 70-80% effective, and they only if they pick the right strain of flu and only a few weeks after getting the shot. Most of what we think of as the flu is not the flu at all, so all the stomach flu's, colds, infections, etc that people get in the winter they still get. This makes people doubt the shot works. For example, my wife just got the shot, it lowered her immune system and she got a bug and is sick as a dog right now throwing up.

I do not get the flu shot because it makes me sick as a dog for about 4 days. I have never actually had the flu in 31 years. If the shot was 90+ percent effective and they had a 100% chance of picking the right flu, I'd probably get it. If it was a 1 time shot, I'd probably get it.

Does anyone have any stats on how often they pick the correct flu? I tried and failed to find a study on that.
 
If they want me to get a flu shot then they can expect me to be out 3+ days because I get the flu when I get a flu shot. Never, ever, ever again and I would make that very clear - "I'll get the shot, but I'll be out sick 3+ days. You OK with that?"
 
spidey07 said:
If they want me to get a flu shot then they can expect me to be out 3+ days because I get the flu when I get a flu shot. Never, ever, ever again and I would make that very clear - "I'll get the shot, but I'll be out sick 3+ days. You OK with that?"
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No you don't.
 
Anubis said:
ive gotten the flu shot twice

both times i ended up getting the fucking flu

so im never getting the shot again
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My exact same circumstances!

The last case of the flu I got nearly killed me, literally, my lungs are severely and permanently scarred from the pneumonia it turned into.
 
TheVrolok said:
No you don't.
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Fine. I get symptoms exactly like influenza for 3-5 days.

Completely lays me up shivering on a couch, sleep 16 hours with a high fever and severe body aches and zero appetite.

I will NEVER take a flu vaccine, EVER again. The 2-3 times I did as a late teen/early adult, I got those symptoms. So much so that my mom had to give me an IV for fluids for 2-3 days. For all of my 40 years, NEVER had those symptoms except for the times I got the shot. Last time was when I was in my early 20s, fucked me up for a week. I'll NEVER get that shot, NEVER.

Haven't had the shot in 17+ years, will never get one again. Never gotten the flu since, I'll trust my immune system.

You try to make me take a flu shot and I tell you "I'll be out for a week if you do, you OK with that?" I know my body and Mom was a doctor. I know my body and how it reacts, I'll never take it ever.

You can post/cite whatever you want, I understand the action. But I'm not getting one, I know my body and it's reaction better than any study and also understand my immune system and it's reaction.

3 times getting flu shot = 3 times me being fucked up. Every year since not getting shot = me not getting fucked up. That's all I need for me to know my body and how it reacts.
 
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spidey07 said:
Fine. I get symptoms exactly like influenza for 3-5 days.

Completely lays me up shivering on a couch, sleep 16 hours with a high fever and severe body aches and zero appetite.
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ATOT will never accept that people do become sick when getting the vaccine. Whether or not its the flu is irrelevant. If the individual becomes ill to the point where they're pretty much bed ridden, whats the difference?

I get the same thing when I get the vaccine. If I get the nasal spray version, I get the added bonus of intense painful burning in my nostrils because of my allergies.
 
Bateluer said:
ATOT will never accept that people do become sick when getting the vaccine. Whether or not its the flu is irrelevant. If the individual becomes ill to the point where they're pretty much bed ridden, whats the difference?

I get the same thing when I get the vaccine. If I get the nasal spray version, I get the added bonus of intense painful burning in my nostrils because of my allergies.
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That's my point. If I get vaccine I get just as sick as if I didn't and got the real bug. Why not let my body fight the real thing?

Puzzle me this - since I haven't taken the vaccine in 17 some years, why then have I not had the flu? Gee, maybe because my immune system can already kill it quick and fast.

Now I get why hospitals, etc would want the vaccine because of exposure/contamination. Because my immune system is so super awesome I can be a carrier and not show symptoms. That makes sense.

But I will never, ever, ever get the shot. I know the results and my body. Once? Strange. Twice? Hmm. 3rd time? Seems to be a connection. 4th and same result?

Don't get that fucking lay you up for a week shot!!!!! It's like a kid touching the stove! Don't fucking touch the stove (don't inject virus into body).
 
spidey07 said:
That's my point. If I get vaccine I get just as sick as if I didn't and got the real bug. Why not let my body fight the real thing?
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Because if you work in a health care position you're not contagious from the shot so you can't spread it to people with compromised immune systems.
 
They can ask me to get a flu shot, but they better expect me to be out a few days with the flu then because every time I've had one that's what happens.
 
mcvickj said:
Being a city employee I can get the shot for next to nothing, It has been offered for several years now but I have no interest in getting it. That being said if my employer made it mandatory then I would go get the shot.
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wtf, you guys have to pay for flu shot? Our province can't give it away fast enough.
 
Alone said:
I don't consider myself a nutjob, but I don't get the vaccine either. Not that I have anything particularly against it, I just don't feel the need. If I get sick, I'll take a few days off work and get over it on my own. I've been fine doing that for the past 24 53 years, so something inside me must be doing its job.
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This.
I never took the vaccines in the Army. I bribed the medics with food and alcohol. I don't get vaccines now.
 
Bignate603 said:
Because if you work in a health care position you're not contagious from the shot so you can't spread it to people with compromised immune systems.
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Yes. And that's my point. I'll take it for that reason, but don't be surprised if need the time off for being fucked up.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
Of course. Did you think the Flu Vaccine Fairy just magically makes it appear for free?


:awe:
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I am truly amazed at how fucked up US Healthcare is given how much you spend on it.

Flu shot is covered by our healthcare system here. They set up many clinics on top of your regular family doctors. Private clinics offer it too and they just charge back to our health care system.
 
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sdifox said:
I am truly amazed at how fucked up US Healthcare is given how much you spend on it.
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Well, that's just it -- your flu vaccine isn't free either. You're paying for it via taxes. So you're paying for it whether you use it or not and down here, if you want it, you pay for it and if you don't want it, you don't pay for it.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
Well, that's just it -- your flu vaccine isn't free either. You're paying for it via taxes. So you're paying for it whether you use it or not and down here, if you want it, you pay for it and if you don't want it, you don't pay for it.
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I didn't say it's free. I am just saying coverage is universal. Considering that the less people get sick from it, the less costly it is to the health care system, I don't see why the US government is not paying for it.

Comparatively, we get better value for our tax dollar.

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I worked at a hospital for 2 years and I think a person should get all the proper vaccines. You work in a place where there are sick people, even if you don't think you need the protection, take the vaccines for your family. They need you healthy.
 
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