Can employer force you to get flu vaccine?

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crashtestdummy

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That's right, you can just get "flu-like symptoms" for about the same duration as a real flu lasts.

Umm, just in case nobody knows (and apparently, many dont) one of the symptoms of flu is death.

Death is a possible side effect of the flu, but not the vaccine.

You *may* get some of the symptoms of the flu because in both cases, they are caused by a strong immune response. The fever, for example, is caused by your innate immune response causing the release of pro-inflammatory cytokines, which trigger your hypothalamus to raise your body temperature. These cytokines also cause stiffness and nasal congestion.

The difference between the vaccine and a real infection, however, is that in the vaccine cannot take over your cells and replicate. Since a limited amount of virus matter is injected, there is a limit to the severity of symptoms in response to the vaccine. The result is that you will not die from the vaccine, but it is possible (though very unlikely) to do so from the virus.
 

911paramedic

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No, unless you are in the military and even then I believe some people have won lawsuits against taking them. Of course they were discharged as well, but they proved that they didn't have to. (It was not the flu vaccine either, if I remember correctly it was for smallpox.)
 

MtnMan

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I don't consider myself a nutjob, but I don't get the vaccine either. Not that I have anything particularly against it, I just don't feel the need. If I get sick, I'll take a few days off work and get over it on my own. I've been fine doing that for the past 24 years, so something inside me must be doing its job.
And if a patient catchs the flu from you and dies?

If you work in health care, take the damn vaccine or become an auto mechanic.

OBTW, 3 people refused at the local hospital last year, and were fired.
 

Gooberlx2

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I work in a hospital as well and went through past years emails about flu vaccines. I didn't see any language that indicated it was forced on anyone, including those with direct patient contact. But there are commissions that look at the compliance rate, and so they asked for people to decline in formal writing.

In any case, I wouldn't be against employees in departments with patient contact being required to either accept the vaccine, or wear masks at all times.
 
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Alone

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I will admit that if I worked around people who are more likely to become infected, I'd be more inclined too get it.

As is, I'm in the military and the vaccine is optional. I don't understand how the flu shot works, but I don't like the idea of screwing with my immune system when it already seems to work.
 

Gooberlx2

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I will admit that if I worked around people who are more likely to become infected, I'd be more inclined too get it.

As is, I'm in the military and the vaccine is optional. I don't understand how the flu shot works, but I don't like the idea of screwing with my immune system when it already seems to work.

It doesn't screw with your immune system, it just uses its natural processes against a dead or deactivated virus to train it to the strain. That way when you come in contact with the real thing, you already have the ability to create the correct antibodies to fight it.
 

TheVrolok

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Employers forcing a vaccine American citizens, one that can possibly cause neurological conditions, and even mental retardation? Fucking lefties!
 

artvscommerce

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Employers forcing a vaccine American citizens, one that can possibly cause neurological conditions, and even mental retardation? Fucking lefties!

You are ignoring the fact that the flu is far more dangerous than the vaccine. If one in 5 million people get a neurological condition from the vaccine, but 1 out of 1000 die from the flu, it's pretty clear that worrying about the safety of the vaccine is ridiculous.
 

artvscommerce

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ive gotten the flu shot twice

both times i ended up getting the fucking flu

so im never getting the shot again

I can understand you feeling that way, but wouldn't that be like saying you don't wear seat belts because people have died in car crashes even while wearing them?
 

BarkingGhostar

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(I work in a hospital btw) My answer is yes. Some coworkers are complaining that it's illegal for the hospital to force employees to get it (or else they will be forced to wear a mask at all times on hospital grounds).

We're working in a damn hospital! full of sick people that we are exposed to daily. I think it's imperative that such places do everything they can to prevent exposure to ourselves and patients.

Anyways, ATOT lawyers, let's hear your thoughts.
I do not see why. I had to get a shot or two before the university let me into it. And that was a state institution in Florida (UF).
 

Imp

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Can't work in a nursing home without it.

I know, what a load of shit. I use to work in a nursing home, and they wouldn't schedule me in until I got my shot. Mofos.

Damn old loser sick people with weak immune systems. I wanted my minimum wage pay.
 

crashtestdummy

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There are individuals that have allergic reactions (potentially deadly ones at that) to certain compounds contained in the vaccine medium.

a) While it is possible, they are EXTREMELY rare. You are more likely to die from the flu itself (as a healthy adult) than have one of these reactions.

b) If you do have an allergic reaction, it will likely happen in minutes, and the doc can give you epinephrin and benadryl.

c) The allergies are usually to things like gelatin, which can be eliminated in vaccines given to patients at a high risk for a reaction.