OMG!!! LIBERAL MOD CONSPIRACY!!!!!! AIEIIEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
Quick! Someone call Dateline NBC...or 20/20.
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Quick! Someone call Dateline NBC...or 20/20.
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Michael
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Format C: Someone PMed me and told me you made a similar comment that was edited out by the mods. Since I didn't see the original comment, I posted the first thing that came to my mind when I read conjur's question. I didn't see your first post, but the famous "wife beating" question is essentially what conjur is asking.
Michael
Michael
Well I guess CAD believes the ends justify the means.
He also enjoys speaking down to people, maybe he was beat up as a kid and is using internet message boards as his revenge on the world.
He also enjoys speaking down to people, maybe he was beat up as a kid and is using internet message boards as his revenge on the world.
Yes, I did, and you can read the results for yourself, ^right up there^. I copied and pasted most of Conjur's post but changed the question. Of course everyone with one brain cell that still fires knows that that question is exactly the same type as the one Conjur keeps asking over and over and over and over and over. But of course, we all know that he's not a troll but anyone with the temerity to turn his own words right back at him is, right?
Michael
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How about you answer my question first, Conjur?
By calling it a "smear" tactic, you are posing a question no different than me asking you if you've stopped beating your wife. Hectoring someone to ask your slanted and inappropriate comment is trolling 101. You're trying to drive him away via harrassment. I'm not surprised that you're doing this, though.
Michael
By calling it a "smear" tactic, you are posing a question no different than me asking you if you've stopped beating your wife. Hectoring someone to ask your slanted and inappropriate comment is trolling 101. You're trying to drive him away via harrassment. I'm not surprised that you're doing this, though.
Michael
I'm not sure why Conjur is ignoring my perfectly valid question. If he's so concerned with people answering his question, then I'm sure that he'll want to be a model of clarity and answer my same exact question, no?
Something that those on the Right fails to acknowledge is that somehow, some way, the major supporters and strategists of Bush et al have left a truly disgusting trail of slime in their wake, and have done so for many years. From Chuck Colson thru Lee Atwater, Ken Starr, and now on to Rove, Spaeth, Perry and others, that trail is obvious, and obviously effective, or they wouldn't continue the practice. The tendency to deny that the practice exists, or to claim that it's not part and parcel of the campaign strategy of various republicans, particularly GWB, utterly discredits the judgement or the honesty of rank and file Republicans who support those candidates- take your pick.
If a longstanding pattern of smear attacks is unsupportable, unacceptable and wrong, then how can one support a candidate who obviously engages in the practice, refuses to denounce the perps, and benefits from their service repeatedly throughout his campaign history?
If a longstanding pattern of smear attacks is unsupportable, unacceptable and wrong, then how can one support a candidate who obviously engages in the practice, refuses to denounce the perps, and benefits from their service repeatedly throughout his campaign history?
Thank you for your well thought out, honest, and completely unbiased report and input. Can I put you down as supporting the re-election of President Bush with a generous donation of $100 dollars or more?
Given the outright rejection from the right that Rove has ever smeared anyone, it seems like the only option the left has is to smear right back. I would be surprised if we didn't see similar tactics out of MoveOn.org or some other dem-aligned 527 group in the near future. At least if they even the score, it mitigates the overall effect.
I'd still prefer that neither side stooped to that level and would simply deal with the present-day issues.
I'd still prefer that neither side stooped to that level and would simply deal with the present-day issues.
CADsortaGUY
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Answer the question, CsG.
Simply a one-word response of either YES or NO.
Do you support the Bush campaign's smear tactics?
And to the trolls out there, I will not respond to you so ah heck off. The mods will take care of a couple of you anyway as they have in the past with a certain line of questioning. I believe it even earned one member a vacation.
Corn
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Yoo hoo, Conjur. Please answer Alky's and Michaels questions while you're waiting for CsG's answer (that, of course, he already gave but you're too stubbornly stupid to acknowledge).
Here's a thought, Conjur. How about you ask an honest question that might actually elicit a yes or no answer.
Now I'm still wondering, Conjur, are you still beating your wife? Yes or no....
Conjur's question is quite simple. I don't really see it as "loaded" as CKG seems to make it out to be. Let's face it, we all know politics is dirty and ugly. Some people, not me, can tune all that nonsense out if they believe the ends justify the means. I'm pretty sure CAD doesn't support Bush's smear tactics, but at the same time he probably agrees with his policies and his direction for the future which is why he's voting for Bush. I don't see this question as loaded at all?
Corn
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The impression from CkG's answers is that he doesn't believe Bush is operating a "smear" campaign.
That is a simple answer to a simpleton's question.
The simpleton demands a one word "yes or no" answer to his idiotic question which leads the causal reader to the conclusion that CkG either supports a "smear" campaign, or that he believes that Bush is operating a "smear" campaign. If that isn't a loaded question defined, I don't know what is.
I'm sorry but how can any rational person say that Bush isn't running a smear campaign. I'll give you an example.
The RNC put out a video on the internet for their convention essentially painting Kerry as a flip-flopper. They had an interview of Kerry on Chris Matthew's show in which Matthews asked Kerry if he was an anti-war candidate. Kerry's response was clipped and cut to only show him saying "Yes", not including the rest of what he actually said (which was definitely not "YES I AM AN ANTI-WAR CANDIDATE"). Bush's ads are filled with such distortions of the truth. Almost everything used against John Kerry isn't used in context. To say that Bush has been honest and truthful in his ads or even in his speeches is a downright fallacy, and any idiot who believes otherwise shouldn't be voting.
I really don't think CAD believes Bush is innocent of smearing John Kerry. I'd like to think he's got more intelligence than that.
This goes for both sides though, as they are both running smear campaigns to a degree (although I tend to believe Bush and the Republicans have gone way overboard compared to Kerry).
The RNC put out a video on the internet for their convention essentially painting Kerry as a flip-flopper. They had an interview of Kerry on Chris Matthew's show in which Matthews asked Kerry if he was an anti-war candidate. Kerry's response was clipped and cut to only show him saying "Yes", not including the rest of what he actually said (which was definitely not "YES I AM AN ANTI-WAR CANDIDATE"). Bush's ads are filled with such distortions of the truth. Almost everything used against John Kerry isn't used in context. To say that Bush has been honest and truthful in his ads or even in his speeches is a downright fallacy, and any idiot who believes otherwise shouldn't be voting.
I really don't think CAD believes Bush is innocent of smearing John Kerry. I'd like to think he's got more intelligence than that.
This goes for both sides though, as they are both running smear campaigns to a degree (although I tend to believe Bush and the Republicans have gone way overboard compared to Kerry).
Answer the question conjur. YES or NO Here's the question I've asked you 3 times now:
"Do you support the DNC's smear tactics against Bush (the AWOL accusations)? Yes or No?"
How many times do I need to try and elicit a one word answer? I don't care about your wife relationship, I want to know this answer.
The DNC does not support the AWOL ad, nor did they put it out. Moveon.org did, and Kerry denounced it. Plus, they have legitimate claims that Bush still hasn't been able to defend or substantially prove otherwise.
It's amazing what stupidity people will spout off when they're protected behind a computer keyboard. People who make idiotic statements like this usually never have the guts to say that to one's face.
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