Burn the Confederate Flag Day?!

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Perknose

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The only reason people in the North didn't have a higher concentration was because it wasn't economically viable to do so, due to the cost of clothing and protecting slaves during the winter months, and that there wasn't very much quality land to have farms and plantations on.

You don't even know a significant portion of your own country's history, do you? That's scary, and sad.

Anyway, you really haven't arrived as a flag until some fringe group wants to burn you. Congrats, progeny of the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, you've arrived.
 

ebaycj

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You obviously know nothing about the South during the Civil War.
I guess you would rather support the North and their segregated units than the Souths intergrated units. You think the Union was so high and mighty? The Civil War originally wasn't about slavery. It was about States Rights and the freedom from an oppressive government. It wasn't about slavery until the North used it to drum up support from the sheeple.
In the South, Slavery was already on the decline, and they knew it couldn't continue.

Of course people like you think everyone in the South was a slave owner and beat them any chance they could get. In reality, only 1.5% of the population of the United States at the time owned slaves. And don't think it's because they were Southerners. The only reason people in the North didn't have a higher concentration was because it wasn't economically viable to do so, due to the cost of clothing and protecting slaves during the winter months, and that there wasn't very much quality land to have farms and plantations on.

I propose we have a burn the Union Flag day as they are known in the South as the Northern Agressors.


I call a huge heaping pile of bullshit on this.

Free Labor >>> Cost of Food / Clothing / Shelter. Always has been, Always will be.
 

rudder

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lol at this thread. Anyway it was the yankees who made the black man only equal to 3/5ths of a person.
 

Moonbeam

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I am a nobody. I'm not proud of anything and I have nothing to defend. When people spit on me, with nowhere to land, it blows back in their face. Don't you wish you could be just like me?

But not so fast. To be like me you have to die to the somebody you are. That could turn out not to be as easy as it might seem. To be a nobody the cost is everything you have that can be taken. For years I labored under the delusion that what I had that could be taken was worth something.
 

Throckmorton

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lol at this thread. Anyway it was the yankees who made the black man only equal to 3/5ths of a person.

What?? I guess you're one of those people who completely misunderstands 3/5 of a person. The just thing would have been for a black person to count for ZERO, since they had no rights in the south, therefore should not have in any way count toward proportional representation.

Counting slaves as 3/5 gave disproportionate representation to voting whites in the slave states. Counting them as 5/5 would have been even worse.
 

CallMeJoe

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Which flag are they supposed to burn? The Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia? The Battle Flag of the Army of Tennessee? The First Confederate Navy Ensign? The Second Confederate Navy Ensign? The First National Flag of the Confederacy? The Second National Flag of the Confederacy? The Third National Flag of the Confederacy? One of the various Secession Flags and Pennants?

Note to OP: "Stars and Bars" refers to one of the first pattern National Flags of the Confederacy, not the Battle Flag of the Army of Tennessee which was the flag later adopted by the Klan and featured on redneck bumpers and pickup truck rear windows...
 

theeedude

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Why would you want to celebrate defeat? The Confederate flag stands for Southern FAIL.
When I see a state house raise it, might as well put up a sign that says, "We are losers and proud of it." :D
 

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Lincoln makes it very clear in his first inaugural address that he is not interested in abolishing slavery. He supported the Corwin Amendment for fuck's sake.

He was interested in preventing the south from seceding so Northern Manufacturers could get a free ride off the South.

The north would've collapsed without having the south subordinate to them. That's really all there is to it.

The South knew that slavery wasn't sustainable and they would've gotten rid of it on their own.
 

Infohawk

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I was raised and lived in Texas for 25 years of my life and consider myself a Texan first and foremost followed by a Southerner.

So you're a traitor... It's great that Southerners were bitch-slapped in the Civil War, but wouldn't the US be better off if Sherman's March had been a little more thorough?

Down with the confederacy and down with the flag of traitors. You should be grateful you're even allowed to display that cowardly flag.
 
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IronWing

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Lincoln makes it very clear in his first inaugural address that he is not interested in abolishing slavery. He supported the Corwin Amendment for fuck's sake.

He was interested in preventing the south from seceding so Northern Manufacturers could get a free ride off the South.

The north would've collapsed without having the south subordinate to them. That's really all there is to it.

The South knew that slavery wasn't sustainable and they would've gotten rid of it on their own.

The North was in the political/economic ascendancy after decades of Southern domination. The Southern landed aristocracy saw the demographics on the wall and decided to take their toys and run out. The Southern aristocracy had no intention of dumping slavery; the money was too good for the elite to give it up. Then Manifest Destiny whomped them upside the head.
 

Babbles

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So you're a traitor... It's great that Southerners were bitch-slapped in the Civil War, but wouldn't the US be better off if Sherman's March had been a little more thorough?

Down with the confederacy and down with the flag of traitors. You should be grateful you're even allowed to display that cowardly flag.

I have nothing much to say to you but a big fuck you.

I sure as shit do not appreciate at all your reckless small-minded accusation of calling me a traitor.

Fuck you and your dimwitted mind of a horse you rode on you piece of shit.

As an aside I do not understand how the flag of the Confederacy is a flag of cowardice, for heaven's sake if it's anything that is just the opposite.

By the way, fuck-twat, I have traced family back to at least one know to fight in the American Revolution and two in who fought for the UNION one of which was an officer.

More than a hundred fucking years later I was born and raised in Texas where I am damn well proud to be a Texan, and I sure as shit am not going to apologize for it. Additionally I will not tolerate some two-bit bitch calling me a traitor because I'm proud to be from Texas.
 

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MotF Bane

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I have nothing much to say to you but a big fuck you.

I sure as shit do not appreciate at all your reckless small-minded accusation of calling me a traitor.

Fuck you and your dimwitted mind of a horse you rode on you piece of shit.

As an aside I do not understand how the flag of the Confederacy is a flag of cowardice, for heaven's sake if it's anything that is just the opposite.

By the way, fuck-twat, I have traced family back to at least one know to fight in the American Revolution and two in who fought for the UNION one of which was an officer.

More than a hundred fucking years later I was born and raised in Texas where I am damn well proud to be a Texan, and I sure as shit am not going to apologize for it. Additionally I will not tolerate some two-bit bitch calling me a traitor because I'm proud to be from Texas.

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Throckmorton

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I have nothing much to say to you but a big fuck you.

I sure as shit do not appreciate at all your reckless small-minded accusation of calling me a traitor.

Fuck you and your dimwitted mind of a horse you rode on you piece of shit.

As an aside I do not understand how the flag of the Confederacy is a flag of cowardice, for heaven's sake if it's anything that is just the opposite.

By the way, fuck-twat, I have traced family back to at least one know to fight in the American Revolution and two in who fought for the UNION one of which was an officer.

More than a hundred fucking years later I was born and raised in Texas where I am damn well proud to be a Texan, and I sure as shit am not going to apologize for it. Additionally I will not tolerate some two-bit bitch calling me a traitor because I'm proud to be from Texas.

You're a traitor because you consider yourself a Texan first and a Southerner second.

You're an American first and a Texan second.
 
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Babbles

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You're a traitor because you considor yourself a Texan first and a Southerner second.

You're an American first and a Texan second.

It's a good thing that your ill-conceived, and frankly mind-boggling stupid notion of what treason is in the United States is not what the Constitution defines as treason. Unless you disavow the legality of the Constitution and want to re-frame certain sections to follow your personal beliefs.

Thank heaven that the Founding Fathers did have moronic dolts such as yourself who would making having pride in their place of birth a treasonous crime.
 

Red Dawn

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You're a traitor because you considor yourself a Texan first and a Southerner second.

You're an American first and a Texan second.
Yeah he's not much different than Mexicans who immigrate to the states yet whose loyalties are to Mexico
 

Babbles

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You're a traitor because you consider yourself a Texan first and a Southerner second.

You're an American first and a Texan second.


Now that I'm a little less pissed off from being called a traitor, I would like to point out that I never, ever, claimed not to consider myself an American.

I challenge you to find where I stated that I consider myself an American last. If you are so sure of yourself, then it should be no problem to find this.

I was make a fair and reasonable assumption that only Americans would care about this topic and as such most people in the thread would indeed consider themselves American. My comment was in regards to regional/state pride. Specifically even though many people in the South consider themselves Southerners, most Texans consider themselves Texans before they would consider themselves Southerners.

That's it. That's all I wrote.

Any mis-interpretation is due to your inability to read within context.
 

Throckmorton

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Now that I'm a little less pissed off from being called a traitor, I would like to point out that I never, ever, claimed not to consider myself an American.

I challenge you to find where I stated that I consider myself an American last. If you are so sure of yourself, then it should be no problem to find this.

I was make a fair and reasonable assumption that only Americans would care about this topic and as such most people in the thread would indeed consider themselves American. My comment was in regards to regional/state pride. Specifically even though many people in the South consider themselves Southerners, most Texans consider themselves Texans before they would consider themselves Southerners.

That's it. That's all I wrote.

Any mis-interpretation is due to your inability to read within context.

Well if you consider yourself American first, you aren't a traitor.

Btw, whether you're a Southerner or not depends on what part of Texas you're from. Central and West Texas are more like the Southwest. The North I'd really consider part of the Plains/Midwest.
 
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