Bryant accuser's injuries 'obvious'

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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Ah....nice to see the old "character assassination of the victim" approach is still valid in modern rape cases. :|

Yep. It's all her fault she was raped. :|

IF She was raped.
Bryant is such a phoney. The press conference was the most contrived BS I have ever seen. His whole personna as a good guy is obviously a lie. I feel sorry for his victim and hope he pays the full price for his offence. You know that if it was a regualr Joe the book would be thrown at him.
 

josphII

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Ah....nice to see the old "character assassination of the victim" approach is still valid in modern rape cases. :|

Yep. It's all her fault she was raped. :|

IF She was raped.
Bryant is such a phoney. The press conference was the most contrived BS I have ever seen. His whole personna as a good guy is obviously a lie. I feel sorry for his victim and hope he pays the full price for his offence. You know that if it was a regualr Joe the book would be thrown at him.

yeah but a regular joe doesnt have he baggage that makes him a likely target of a false accuser that kobe has. nobody knows who the real victim is, could very well be kobe.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Ah....nice to see the old "character assassination of the victim" approach is still valid in modern rape cases. :|

Yep. It's all her fault she was raped. :|

IF She was raped.
Bryant is such a phoney. The press conference was the most contrived BS I have ever seen. His whole personna as a good guy is obviously a lie. I feel sorry for his victim and hope he pays the full price for his offence. You know that if it was a regualr Joe the book would be thrown at him.

yeah but a regular joe doesnt have he baggage that makes him a likely target of a false accuser that kobe has. nobody knows who the real victim is, could very well be kobe.
I seriously doubt it. He lied to his wife about his infidelity why wouldn't he lie to keep his punk ass out of prison?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: NFS4
That's not the same chick from the other two photos on the net...at least it doesn't look lik her.

From the caption:

Sarah Lombardi, 17, of Eagle, a friend of the woman who has accused Kobe Bryant of sexual assault, says she has handled a flood of calls from the news media asking for interviews.
 

minendo

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: NFS4
That's not the same chick from the other two photos on the net...at least it doesn't look lik her.

From the caption:

Sarah Lombardi, 17, of Eagle, a friend of the woman who has accused Kobe Bryant of sexual assault, says she has handled a flood of calls from the news media asking for interviews.
He was referring to the pictures that were in the originally link posted. I have since updated the thread.

 

digitalsm

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Bryant is such a phoney. The press conference was the most contrived BS I have ever seen. His whole personna as a good guy is obviously a lie. I feel sorry for his victim and hope he pays the full price for his offence. You know that if it was a regualr Joe the book would be thrown at him.

Yes his public persona now appears to be contrived. People, even his teammates of seven years only know his public persona. No one really knows what he does behind closed doors. Its pretty sad that his teammaters really dont know him personally after all this time. Kobe isolates himself.
 

josphII

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Ah....nice to see the old "character assassination of the victim" approach is still valid in modern rape cases. :|

Yep. It's all her fault she was raped. :|

IF She was raped.
Bryant is such a phoney. The press conference was the most contrived BS I have ever seen. His whole personna as a good guy is obviously a lie. I feel sorry for his victim and hope he pays the full price for his offence. You know that if it was a regualr Joe the book would be thrown at him.

yeah but a regular joe doesnt have he baggage that makes him a likely target of a false accuser that kobe has. nobody knows who the real victim is, could very well be kobe.
I seriously doubt it. He lied to his wife about his infidelity why wouldn't he lie to keep his punk ass out of prison?

yeah but cheating on your wife isnt exactly an uncommon offense, nba players especially. on the other hand i dont know too many psychologically stable women that wind up in a married man's hotel room at midnight.
 

digitalsm

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yeah but cheating on your wife isnt exactly an uncommon offense, nba players especially. on the other hand i dont know too many psychologically stable women that wind up in a married man's hotel room at midnight.

To my knowledge it was between 10:00pm and 11:15pm mountain time.
 

Gunslinger08

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This thread has proven two things to me:
Most people are instantly biased for/against someone who's accused of pretty much anything
Millenium is an a$$hole
 
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Originally posted by: digitalsm
yeah but cheating on your wife isnt exactly an uncommon offense, nba players especially. on the other hand i dont know too many psychologically stable women that wind up in a married man's hotel room at midnight.

To my knowledge it was between 10:00pm and 11:15pm mountain time.

Not to mention that she WORKED AT THE HOTEL.

Even if she went up to the room to socialize, I hardly see this as evidence of psychological instability. Hell, half of this thread is consumed by morons who seem to find it inconceivable that any red-blooded woman would be able to resist Kobe. None of this means he could not have raped her.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Ah....nice to see the old "character assassination of the victim" approach is still valid in modern rape cases. :|

Yep. It's all her fault she was raped. :|

IF She was raped.
Bryant is such a phoney. The press conference was the most contrived BS I have ever seen. His whole personna as a good guy is obviously a lie. I feel sorry for his victim and hope he pays the full price for his offence. You know that if it was a regualr Joe the book would be thrown at him.

yeah but a regular joe doesnt have he baggage that makes him a likely target of a false accuser that kobe has. nobody knows who the real victim is, could very well be kobe.
I seriously doubt it. He lied to his wife about his infidelity why wouldn't he lie to keep his punk ass out of prison?

yeah but cheating on your wife isnt exactly an uncommon offense, nba players especially. on the other hand i dont know too many psychologically stable women that wind up in a married man's hotel room at midnight.
Well if she were to believe the good guy hype about Kobe it's quite possible that she went up there for a sprite:)

Anyway, even if she went up there to party with him no still means no and being held against your will is still unacceptable, even if you (Kobe) is a Fanboys hero.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: digitalsm
yeah but cheating on your wife isnt exactly an uncommon offense, nba players especially. on the other hand i dont know too many psychologically stable women that wind up in a married man's hotel room at midnight.

To my knowledge it was between 10:00pm and 11:15pm mountain time.

Not to mention that she WORKED AT THE HOTEL.

Even if she went up to the room to socialize, I hardly see this as evidence of psychological instability.

Hell, half of this thread is consumed by morons who seem to find it inconceivable that any red-blooded woman would be able to resist Kobe.
You noticed that, huh? ;)

 

Lager

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Doug Christie's package would of been ripped off if he commited adultry by his psycho wife.
 

Led Zeppelin

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My take on all this after reading through the 5 pages of 'opinions':

I really don't see why it's so hard to believe that Kobe did it. Sure, MAYBE it could've started out as 'consensual', but if at ANY point she said "no/stop/don't", and he didn't, it's RAPE! I don't buy the fact that he's had a squeaky clean image, therefore it's impossible that he did it. Why the Christ would this girl make a story up like this knowing that her life, her family's life, and everyone that she interacts with, will be put trhough the ringer and made public and scrutinized for all to see?? NO amount of money that she could possibly get is worth that. The REAL WINNER here is going to be Kobe's wife, SHE'S the one that now has his balls in her back pocket. When, yes, not if, but WHEN she decides to divorce his cheating ass, she's the one that's going to get MILLIONS of dollars, not this poor girl that I believe he did rape. Like Mellinium said, if Kobe was innocent, he wouldn't just admit to cheating on his wife, he'd give EXACT details of what actually did happen. Things just aren't adding up on his behalf. I really, really hope they make an example out of his ass, just so these so called celebrities can be shown once and for all that no matter how much money they have, they are not above the law. Give him life in prison!
 

Rogue

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What I find interesting in this entire incident and especially this thread, is that people are putting stock into the public defense mounted by her friends, nearly all of which are teenage girls. So go ahead, pass judgment and pick sides based on either an NBA star or a bunch of teenage girls, but in the end you will find, that everything is not as it seems, nor can you believe everything you hear or read.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
My take on all this after reading through the 5 pages of 'opinions':

I really don't see why it's so hard to believe that Kobe did it. Sure, MAYBE it could've started out as 'consensual', but if at ANY point she said "no/stop/don't", and he didn't, it's RAPE! I don't buy the fact that he's had a squeaky clean image, therefore it's impossible that he did it. Why the Christ would this girl make a story up like this knowing that her life, her family's life, and everyone that she interacts with, will be put trhough the ringer and made public and scrutinized for all to see?? NO amount of money that she could possibly get is worth that. The REAL WINNER here is going to be Kobe's wife, SHE'S the one that now has his balls in her back pocket. When, yes, not if, but WHEN she decides to divorce his cheating ass, she's the one that's going to get MILLIONS of dollars, not this poor girl that I believe he did rape. Like Mellinium said, if Kobe was innocent, he wouldn't just admit to cheating on his wife, he'd give EXACT details of what actually did happen. Things just aren't adding up on his behalf. I really, really hope they make an example out of his ass, just so these so called celebrities can be shown once and for all that no matter how much money they have, they are not above the law. Give him life in prison!


The problem with your logic is that you're thinking rationally. Unfortunately, not everyone does.
 
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Originally posted by: Rogue
What I find interesting in this entire incident and especially this thread, is that people are putting stock into the public defense mounted by her friends, nearly all of which are teenage girls. So go ahead, pass judgment and pick sides based on either an NBA star or a bunch of teenage girls, but in the end you will find, that everything is not as it seems, nor can you believe everything you hear or read.


This is a refreshing injection of common sense. IMO most of the strongly opinionated posts here just reveal the poster's bias. I think some people are anxious to see a celebrity burn, others will defend Kobe regardless of the facts, and still others here clearly resent women and will always assume that this victim is a liar until and unless they see a videotape of Kobe sexually assaulting her.

For my part, I have no idea. Typically in these kinds of acquaintance rape cases, there is little or no physical evidence of trauma, and it boils down to one person's word against the other's. The DA here claims there is ample physical evidence, which is interesting if true, and apparently people in adjoining rooms had complained about screaming going on during the incident. Also, the alleged victim apparently emerged from the room crying and visibly upset. If all these tidbits line up, the case against Kobe is a relatively very strong one, but the jury are the only ones who can ultimately decide whether or not he is guilty.
 
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Originally posted by: Lucky
The charges can not be dropped. The case cant be settled.

of course the charges can be dropped. she could completely recant.


That would not necessarily stop the prosecution, depending on what other evidence the prosecutors have. DAs sometimes can and do prosecute cases without cooperation of the victim (the most common scenario is in domestic assault cases), and given the very high visibility of this case it would not amaze me if they did so.

 

josphII

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Ah....nice to see the old "character assassination of the victim" approach is still valid in modern rape cases. :|

Yep. It's all her fault she was raped. :|

IF She was raped.
Bryant is such a phoney. The press conference was the most contrived BS I have ever seen. His whole personna as a good guy is obviously a lie. I feel sorry for his victim and hope he pays the full price for his offence. You know that if it was a regualr Joe the book would be thrown at him.

yeah but a regular joe doesnt have he baggage that makes him a likely target of a false accuser that kobe has. nobody knows who the real victim is, could very well be kobe.
I seriously doubt it. He lied to his wife about his infidelity why wouldn't he lie to keep his punk ass out of prison?

yeah but cheating on your wife isnt exactly an uncommon offense, nba players especially. on the other hand i dont know too many psychologically stable women that wind up in a married man's hotel room at midnight.
Well if she were to believe the good guy hype about Kobe it's quite possible that she went up there for a sprite:)

Anyway, even if she went up there to party with him no still means no and being held against your will is still unacceptable, even if you (Kobe) is a Fanboys hero.

and if you put out then regret it later, thats no excuse to cry rape
 
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Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Ah....nice to see the old "character assassination of the victim" approach is still valid in modern rape cases. :|

Yep. It's all her fault she was raped. :|

IF She was raped.
Bryant is such a phoney. The press conference was the most contrived BS I have ever seen. His whole personna as a good guy is obviously a lie. I feel sorry for his victim and hope he pays the full price for his offence. You know that if it was a regualr Joe the book would be thrown at him.

yeah but a regular joe doesnt have he baggage that makes him a likely target of a false accuser that kobe has. nobody knows who the real victim is, could very well be kobe.
I seriously doubt it. He lied to his wife about his infidelity why wouldn't he lie to keep his punk ass out of prison?

yeah but cheating on your wife isnt exactly an uncommon offense, nba players especially. on the other hand i dont know too many psychologically stable women that wind up in a married man's hotel room at midnight.
Well if she were to believe the good guy hype about Kobe it's quite possible that she went up there for a sprite:)

Anyway, even if she went up there to party with him no still means no and being held against your will is still unacceptable, even if you (Kobe) is a Fanboys hero.

and if you put out then regret it later, thats no excuse to cry rape


Quite true, but I think it is premature to assume that's what happened here. For that matter, it is premature to presume ANYTHING about what happened, short of the undisputed fact that Kobe had sex with this girl.

 

Crucial

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Originally posted by: NFS4
That's not the same chick from the other two photos on the net...at least it doesn't look lik her.

Thats not her, it's her friend. Read the caption