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Brian Williams and his helicopter issue.

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I've heard many people give different arguments about this - this is just my opinion...

Whether Williams lied, or if he misremembered, not the center of the issue. I personally have to think he misremembered the events. But that point is not crucial to my overall opinion. Fact checking takes time, it takes resources, it takes money. Americans are not willing to pay for fact-checked news. So regardless of intent or mistake, media is less and less fact-checked.

And that's basically it. If you want fact-checked news, you have to personally support it with your own dollars. If we do not pay, then we get sloppy news. It's not all on Brian Williams, it's on all of us too.
 
cubby1223 said:
I've heard many people give different arguments about this - this is just my opinion...

Whether Williams lied, or if he misremembered, not the center of the issue. I personally have to think he misremembered the events. But that point is not crucial to my overall opinion. Fact checking takes time, it takes resources, it takes money. Americans are not willing to pay for fact-checked news. So regardless of intent or mistake, media is less and less fact-checked.

And that's basically it. If you want fact-checked news, you have to personally support it with your own dollars. If we do not pay, then we get sloppy news. It's not all on Brian Williams, it's on all of us too.
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I totally disagree with every single word of this. Brian Williams outright lied. You don't forget getting shot down in a chopper.
The idea that facts aren't checked because we don't want to pay for it is ludicrous. Suggesting that we need fact checking of a personal account by a reporter on the scene is insane beyond belief. His job is to report facts, not make up stories.
I'm astounded that you would even consider that the public has any culpability what so ever, we have none. Trying to paint this as a failure by anyone other Williams is absurd.
 
Greenman said:
I totally disagree with every single word of this. Brian Williams outright lied. You don't forget getting shot down in a chopper.
The idea that facts aren't checked because we don't want to pay for it is ludicrous. Suggesting that we need fact checking of a personal account by a reporter on the scene is insane beyond belief. His job is to report facts, not make up stories.
I'm astounded that you would even consider that the public has any culpability what so ever, we have none. Trying to paint this as a failure by anyone other Williams is absurd.
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In this example, we have no culpability.

In the state of the overall quality of the news, as the OP said, we absolutely do. ....but that post is basically a deflection of the singular issue here.
 
Greenman said:
I totally disagree with every single word of this. Brian Williams outright lied. You don't forget getting shot down in a chopper.
The idea that facts aren't checked because we don't want to pay for it is ludicrous. Suggesting that we need fact checking of a personal account by a reporter on the scene is insane beyond belief. His job is to report facts, not make up stories.
I'm astounded that you would even consider that the public has any culpability what so ever, we have none. Trying to paint this as a failure by anyone other Williams is absurd.
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Quit banging your head against the wall.

Some people want to be lied to. They have no interest in the truth, only what serves their cause. You can't change that.
 
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W. should be punished for lying about Iraq..How many people have died now because of that?
Isis victims..military casualties..civilian casualties..yeah..I'm not happy with him.
PS:Brian Williams is a turd.
20 years ago reporters used to tell the truth pretty much.
 
schmuckley said:
W. should be punished for lying about Iraq..How many people have died now because of that?
Isis victims..military casualties..civilian casualties..yeah..I'm not happy with him.
PS:Brian Williams is a turd.
20 years ago reporters used to tell the truth pretty much.
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Should Obama be punished for lying about Libya?
 
Sarah Palin's response on this media bull shit. This from Facebook.

Friends, this is a very important post I respectfully ask you to read through. Forgive its length. May it help you nail the coffin that's given shelter to a corrupt press that would stop at nothing in their fight against right.
Reports today claimed Tom Brokaw was calling on his former network to fire Brian Williams for lying for years about being hit by enemy fire in Iraq. Brokaw apparently denies the reports. (Personally, I hope Williams keeps his job as the face of network news to remind America how this all works, and to justify our complete turning away from his ilk in mainstream media.) It appears that some at NBC did know that Williams was lying for over a decade but never said a thing about it. Keep in mind that Williams repeated his bogus story many times on air, yukked it up with David Letterman over the made up drama, and even accepted praise as a "war hero."
http://www.breitbart.com/…/tom-brokaw-calls-for-brian-will…/
Let’s consider the herd mentality these journalists use to empower and cover for each other. It’s precisely the way a corrupt organization works, like a crime syndicate. Remember the “JournoList” scandal where hundreds of prominent members of the media were finally exposed for operating a secret internet chat group to strategize on how they would cover (read: spin) the news of the day to fit their leftwing agenda, regardless of truth? I haven't forgotten. They would stop at nothing. I was aware of their collective unethical character not only because my college degree was earned using the complete opposite journalism tactics of JournoList's, but also because I lived it first hand as they began their relentless BS about my family, my hometown, and my record when I was asked to come on the national scene in 2008.
http://dailycaller.com/…/journolist%E2%80%99s-anti-palin-c…/
http://dailycaller.com/…/raw-journolist-emails-on-palins-d…/
My parents just reminded me that right after my acceptance speech at the RNC in 2008, Brian Williams repeated on national television a completely false story that I banned books while I served in office. He did so by reading on air a completely false op-ed by another unethical character who's never clarified nor apologized for including that outrageous censorship lie, among many others. (Thanks, Joe Klein, hope you're keeping it classy.) Those lies – proclaimed on air as if Williams was merely reporting "the news" – were heard by many that night. Lies like that were like a gut punch to my parents that knocked down the foundation of trust they've lived their good lives upon, for they realized, defenselessly, the power of a corrupt press. The media lies rung a bell that can never be “un-rung.” In the minds of millions of Americans, I was tainted as an anti-First Amendment book banning wacko. Brian Williams lied about me in order to affect the way I would be perceived by Americans during the 2008 election. He lies. There is no other way around it. But what’s especially disgusting is the way his corrupt colleagues covered for him. I have never and will never let the shroud of victimization cover me – God's given me way too many undeserved blessings to dishonor His goodness by wasting time crying "victim" – but I'm happy to recall the hundreds of Palin-centric false reports if it helps America understand you must never trust JournoList-types. (Well, not exactly "happy" to do it, but willing – all the whilst throwing up a little bit in my mouth, believing the reason the harshness perpetuates may be for others' edification.)
Don't be lulled into thinking this is only an NBC problem. It's all the major networks. Look, for example, at the outrageous media bias at CNN at the same time Williams was making up stories about his “war valor.”
There is a serious problem with the liberal media’s herd mentality. It's too late for their mea culpa because they've already lost America’s trust, and that is a dangerous thing. But while they're still on our airwaves, they need to clean up their act as the rest of us turn to new media that will be held accountable. A free press is a cornerstone of our democracy. They have the tools to be our watchdogs, not liars and lapdogs for the powers that be.
Thanks for hearing me out. And, *sigh*, for the umpteenth time – for the benefit of the most unprofessional among the herd who will never clarify nor apologize – yes, I am my son's mother.
- Sarah Palin
http://www.breitbart.com/…/palin-on-brian-williams-hillary…/
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nickqt said:
TV news committed mass suicide when news divisions were required to be profitable. Since then it has all been infotainment.
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Completely agree.:thumbsup: Nightly broadcast news should not be a source of any reliable information.

There is no conspiracy. Just shear laziness.
 
Greenman said:
Playing the Bush card. Now you can sit back and be smugly justified with the actions of your hero.

It must be comforting to be that stupid.
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Wow, you're a fucking moron. Nobody justified anyone's actions. The post in fact acknowledges he will likely be punished without taking a stance on whether or not that's right. But keep that imagination of yours running, Republicans count on people not grounded in reality to get any votes.
 
thraashman said:
Wow, you're a fucking moron. Nobody justified anyone's actions. The post in fact acknowledges he will likely be punished without taking a stance on whether or not that's right. But keep that imagination of yours running, Republicans count on people not grounded in reality to get any votes.
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For sure.

Like how the republicans say the Democrats want dirty air and water and that black people can't afford cars.
 
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