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garikfox

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Another RANT I have.

Go into a Wal-Mart here in Mesa,Az - Alma School/Main St.

All clothes are fashioned for Mexican/Latino. (All clothes has that Mex/70s look etc. you all know what I mean.)

Now thats REPULSIVE !
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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What about this scenerio?

30 million Mexicans legally earn their citizenship, become the largest voting block in the United States, elect 300 Mexican-Americans to Congress, and propose legislation that tears down the Fence. A weak President wanting to pander to this new largest voting block signs the bill into law, making illegal emmigration to the USA the easiest process in history.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: puffff
Question: Suppose the provision that allows illegals to gain citizenship provided they learn english passes. Now those that don't (I can see many of the older illegals not be able to learn), would they be deported? Or for them, would it be status quo? Like, we'd just let them stay illegally?
Anyone who can't pass the English courses should be deported unless they have an immediate family member who passed. Then they can apply for citizenship but that gets bumped to the very back of the line.

 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Hecubus2000
Originally posted by: elbosco
Originally posted by: garikfox
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: elbosco
Mesa has turned into a crime infested slum populated by illegals?

Did I not get the memo?

About half of my neighbors do not speak English.

<--- lives in Mesa

u see my point then, Theres a serious Invasion going on here in our City.

Over 77% of the population in Mesa is white.

The hispanic population grew 4.8% in the last 6 years.

Some invasion.

You mean the LEGAL hispanic population. Get a clue.
Stop, you're making sense!

 

archiloco

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berlin wall anybody..that sucker was tough....people still got thru.....you just creating Animosity between US and Mexico.......won't stop illegals at all.


(i know i know berlin wall was totally different West/East stuff......)
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Originally posted by: elbosco
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: elbosco
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: elbosco
Originally posted by: garikfox
Originally posted by: elbosco
Mesa has turned into a crime infested slum populated by illegals?

Did I not get the memo?

Sure has. Born and raised here, Barely noticable in the early 90s, now, Some main st.'s here in Mesa, Are all Mexican shops geared for Illegals, All signs on the Road are in Mexican. Its repulsive !

Mesa is the 4th biggest city. here in Az

FYI, Mesa is the 3rd largest town in the state (2nd largest suburban community in the country), Mexican is not a language and despite what you may think, English is not the official language of this country.

Someone better inform Historians, the president, and everyone that runs this country - something must be wrong is they happen to think it is.

The United States has no official language.

It may be common practice to speak English but there are no laws prohibiting the use of other languages by the government or businesses.

Since when did that become the deciding factor as to whether it is our official language or not? That's like saying the US Flag is not the "official" flag because it is not against the law to fly a Canadian one outside my front door.

You fail at logic.

de facto != de jure.

The United States does not have an official language. Why is that so difficult for some people to understand?
It may not be our official NATIONAL language, but 27 states have official English laws:
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More will be following suit as more immigrants start piling in.

 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Originally posted by: archiloco
berlin wall anybody..that sucker was tough....people still got thru.....you just creating Animosity between US and Mexico.......won't stop illegals at all.


(i know i know berlin wall was totally different West/East stuff......)
A wall will most certainly help stem the 1.2 million Hispanic illegals entering each year.

 

archiloco

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: archiloco
berlin wall anybody..that sucker was tough....people still got thru.....you just creating Animosity between US and Mexico.......won't stop illegals at all.


(i know i know berlin wall was totally different West/East stuff......)
A wall will most certainly help stem the 1.2 million Hispanic illegals entering each year.

just use different routes, and take more risks leading into more deaths :-(
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: archiloco
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: archiloco
berlin wall anybody..that sucker was tough....people still got thru.....you just creating Animosity between US and Mexico.......won't stop illegals at all.


(i know i know berlin wall was totally different West/East stuff......)
A wall will most certainly help stem the 1.2 million Hispanic illegals entering each year.

just use different routes, and take more risks leading into more deaths :-(

That is their choice. No one is forcing anybody to risk their life.
 

AMDZen

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So where are all the "Bush Sucks" posts?

Could it be that people are actually happy with all that Bush is doing in this regard? Not that I expect people to admit it, but its about freakin' time someone did something
 

archiloco

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: archiloco
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: archiloco
berlin wall anybody..that sucker was tough....people still got thru.....you just creating Animosity between US and Mexico.......won't stop illegals at all.


(i know i know berlin wall was totally different West/East stuff......)
A wall will most certainly help stem the 1.2 million Hispanic illegals entering each year.

just use different routes, and take more risks leading into more deaths :-(

That is their choice. No one is forcing anybody to risk their life.


your right.....but that's how desperate some people are.....
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
So where are all the "Bush Sucks" posts?

Could it be that people are actually happy with all that Bush is doing in this regard? Not that I expect people to admit it, but its about freakin' time someone did something

One action done to appease people and stop a plummeting approval rating does not make up for all the bad things he has done.
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: archiloco
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: archiloco
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: archiloco
berlin wall anybody..that sucker was tough....people still got thru.....you just creating Animosity between US and Mexico.......won't stop illegals at all.


(i know i know berlin wall was totally different West/East stuff......)
A wall will most certainly help stem the 1.2 million Hispanic illegals entering each year.

just use different routes, and take more risks leading into more deaths :-(

That is their choice. No one is forcing anybody to risk their life.


your right.....but that's how desperate some people are.....

Perhaps if it becomes too difficult to get into the USA, the Mexican people may put their energy towards overthrowing their corrupt gov't and making Mexico a better place.


 

fredhe12

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I'm amazed how the human spirit and will is constantly and consistently underestimated. They'll just find another way, they always do. I don't think we American's realize to what lengths illegals are willing to go to just to get a better life.

Not saying it's right or wrong, it is what it is. We have something they don't, and they want it. Improving one's life situation is, in my opinion, the strongest possible motivator anyone can have. Some of these people leave homes and loved ones, risk their very lives just to make it to the border, and we think some little fence or wall is going to stop them at the end of their journey?! Not likely. Don't underestimate them.

Another poster, said it best, "What a waste of money". Will this war on illegal immigration = war on drugs? Time will tell, I suppose. Now what was that quote about those that don't know history are doomed....

Anyways, good luck with that wall. I'm sure it will make someone some money...probably not the taxpayers though.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: AMDZen
So where are all the "Bush Sucks" posts?

Could it be that people are actually happy with all that Bush is doing in this regard? Not that I expect people to admit it, but its about freakin' time someone did something

One action done to appease people and stop a plummeting approval rating does not make up for all the bad things he has done.
Yup, I could have asked a Pygmy chimpanzee with ebola over in the Congo what to do about the current problem with illegals, and even he would have told me to fortify the border.

 

archiloco

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: archiloco
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: archiloco
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: archiloco
berlin wall anybody..that sucker was tough....people still got thru.....you just creating Animosity between US and Mexico.......won't stop illegals at all.


(i know i know berlin wall was totally different West/East stuff......)
A wall will most certainly help stem the 1.2 million Hispanic illegals entering each year.

just use different routes, and take more risks leading into more deaths :-(

That is their choice. No one is forcing anybody to risk their life.


your right.....but that's how desperate some people are.....

Perhaps if it becomes too difficult to get into the USA, the Mexican people may put their energy towards overthrowing their corrupt gov't and making Mexico a better place.

yeah hopefully obrador does not win...he's kinda communist and has the same views as the Venezuelan president........then you will need to double the size of the wall...or no wall at all...he hates america.