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Boy age 5 shoots and kills 2-year old sister

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It was left loaded? A 5 year old is too young to remember to check the gun every time. This is negligent parents. But they have already suffered the loss of a child...
 
Sadly, people are really good at rationalizing anything, within a year they will probably chalk it up to god's will, freak accident, or blame it on the son (even though it isn't his fault).
 
Pheran said:
At age 5, I'd argue that having a real firearm is not OK at all, regardless of the supervision. Children that age are not competent enough to handle deadly weapons.
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JM Aggie08 said:
Meh, I was taught proper handling and respect for a weapon around that age and never managed to harm anyone, or myself for that matter.
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JM Aggie08 said:
It seems you missed what exactly I was replying to.
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I stand by my statement. Many children at that age (5) don't even understand death. There's no way they can conceive of the fact that they can end someone's life just by making a mistake. There's just no reason to provide them with a real firearm when they can have an equivalent experience with a BB gun that is much safer.
 
Sometimes I think we have two very distinct branches of humans, one that should be isolated with very basic needs and left to very old ways of living (farming, hand tools), and another that improves and uses technological innovation.
 
vi edit said:
I was "given" a .22 bolt action for my 5th birthday from my Grandpa. By "given" it really meant that it was hung unloaded, about 8' off the floor on a gun rack and I got to shoot it a couple times out in a pasture under very strict supervision of my Dad.

"Giving" a gun to a 5 year is different than letting them handle a loaded one, in the presence of other people/children and being completely bat shit retarded about it.
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Yeah I had something similar. My dad had a lever action 22 that was supposedly "mine", but it stayed in the gun safe and I only got to shoot it when he was looking over my shoulder. I learned all the basics of handling a gun with that 22.

What kind of person would even leave their 5 year olds side when they were handling a firearm? Its so fucking stupid.
 
Sounds like ages 4-5 are the most proficient at finding a loaded gun and accidentally shooting someone in the head.
 
JM Aggie08 said:
It seems you missed what exactly I was replying to.
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No, I didn't miss anything. And you didn't answer my question.

I was taught to shoot at a young age, probably around 8 or 9 years old, with a .22 caliber bolt action rifle. I never had access to it unless my Step-Dad was with me and if I touched it when he wasn't around I'd get my ass whupped.
 
BlitzPuppet said:
Sounds like ages 4-5 are the most proficient at finding a loaded gun and accidentally shooting someone in the head.
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Hey now, there was that 10 year old who was given instruction on how to use a full auto uzi at that gun show and he shot himself in the head due to the kickback, that was an epic fail.
 
Phokus said:
Hey now, there was that 10 year old who was given instruction on how to use a full auto uzi at that gun show and he shot himself in the head due to the kickback, that was an epic fail.
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He was only 8...his father decided to let him fire the mini uzi despite several warnings that it was a bad idea.

Somehow this was deemed to be the gun show organizer's fault and he was put on trial, but found not guilty.
 
There is a chance this happens with a gun in the home. Even with strict parents. If a million best parents in the world had guns in the homes with kids, this outcome still is realized in a few instances.
 
Pheran said:
5-year-old Kentucky boy fatally shoots 2-year-old sister



OK, I'm all for gun ownership, but what kind of insane idiot gives a 5-year old an actual working .22 rifle for his birthday rather than a BB gun or something??
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I owned a .22 at 6 and a BB gun at 5. Honestly the problem is not him owning a gun. That can be a fun and educational tool for growth. The problem was his parents letting him play with a gun!

Even with my BB gun I was only allowed to use it under direct supervision of my father and grandfather until I was 11 or 12. My rifle was under lock and key as well until I turned 18. This kind of tragedy only happens because of a lack of training in gun safety.

More so, if I had even talked about pointing a gun at another person, not only would I have been punished, I would have probably never seen my rifles ever again.
 
JulesMaximus said:
No, I didn't miss anything. And you didn't answer my question.

I was taught to shoot at a young age, probably around 8 or 9 years old, with a .22 caliber bolt action rifle. I never had access to it unless my Step-Dad was with me and if I touched it when he wasn't around I'd get my ass whupped.
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You're missing it Jules. He was replying to Pheran who said "regardless of supervision." Which is what you and apparently JMAggue had.
 
JulesMaximus said:
His post is kind of ambiguous. I thought it warranted commenting on.
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A little bit. Maybe he should have bolded the part that said regardless of the supervision, but it was there. But, he did respond to you and bold out the area he was referring to. No need to bring up your question about whether his parents are complete fools.
 
Kelvrick said:
A little bit. Maybe he should have bolded the part that said regardless of the supervision, but it was there. But, he did respond to you and bold out the area he was referring to. No need to bring up your question about whether his parents are complete fools.
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:thumbsup:
 
im told by gun nuts that anything can be used to kill.
even if the parents had locked/hidden the guns, the 5 year old could killed with a knife or even a pencil.
 
Very Sad.. Shame on the parents for not keeping their guns out of reach. Now the boy has to live his life knowing he killed his baby sister. I couldn't even imagine...
 
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