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Lifer
- Oct 19, 2000
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Because I'm nice, a couple of quick links before I head to bed.....
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=685579&highlight=orb
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=658621&highlight=orb <--- This one has a ton of links on Orb user opinions within the first 5 or 6 posts.
That doesn't mean she has to spend an arm and a leg for mediocre sound. Just because she's not an audiophile doesn't mean she won't care how much she spends.
Honestly, I think the cheaper route with some Bose stickers would be the perfect solution. It will impress her friends at a cheaper price and the same (or better) quality sound.
which is why you should spend 1/5 on something that will produce identical sound, since she wouldn't be able to "appreciate it". I don't see what there is to argue about this, it makes perfect sense.
I don't think he's posted here for quite a while. Not sure what happened to him. There's a few others like SynthDude as well that I haven't seen for some time.
JEDIYoda
Lifer
- Jul 13, 2005
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whata goofy reply!!!
Here let me highlight the goofyness!
Dood!! Your age is showing all over your replie.....13yrs old huh?
Mom gets what mom wants hands down!
You don`t argue with mom!
It doesn`t matter the reasons. Its mom`s money and she obviously wants the Bose.
Whats so hard about respecting mom`s wishes?
I am sure mom would know the difference if you bought something else....
Adults are not stoopid!!
get her the damn Bose!!
let her order it. she just wants to brag. so let her. it's her money. besides, reviews say that the system is pretty good. just do it.
Mom is not likely audio or tech savy so trying to show her reviews isn't going to do any good. My guess is she's going for the Bose because of two factors:
1) Name recognition
2) Ease of use
You could try to show her something that's equally well known (Denon, Harman Kardon, Sunfire, Renegade, Rotel, Paradigm, Nohr, Orb, etc.) and get something that will easily operate the whole system for which I would recommend one of the Logitech Harmony remotes. Dead simple to setup and you can't get much easier operation than one of them. Press the button that's labeled "Watch TV" and it does the rest, pretty much idiot proof IMHO. If you can get her into a real audio store (ie NOT Circuit City and Best Buy) and show her the difference in audio (b/c I'm sure she's heard the Bose sound system) then perhaps you can sway her. But if she's stubborn and wants to stick with Bose let her get it.
Note to JediYODA: Frankly most parents actually do appreciate it when their kids give them advice on technology purchases. Lots of kids are tech savy nowadays (not saying that parents aren't) and I would say that they're in a larger proportion than tech savy parents. Sure there are some parents that do not care to listen and that's fine, that's their choice. But don't automatically assume that parents do not want to listen to their kids on tech purchases. I'm not a kid anymore (28) but my parents have been taking my advice on tech purchases for somewhere in the neighborhood of 14 years.
1) Name recognition
2) Ease of use
You could try to show her something that's equally well known (Denon, Harman Kardon, Sunfire, Renegade, Rotel, Paradigm, Nohr, Orb, etc.) and get something that will easily operate the whole system for which I would recommend one of the Logitech Harmony remotes. Dead simple to setup and you can't get much easier operation than one of them. Press the button that's labeled "Watch TV" and it does the rest, pretty much idiot proof IMHO. If you can get her into a real audio store (ie NOT Circuit City and Best Buy) and show her the difference in audio (b/c I'm sure she's heard the Bose sound system) then perhaps you can sway her. But if she's stubborn and wants to stick with Bose let her get it.
Note to JediYODA: Frankly most parents actually do appreciate it when their kids give them advice on technology purchases. Lots of kids are tech savy nowadays (not saying that parents aren't) and I would say that they're in a larger proportion than tech savy parents. Sure there are some parents that do not care to listen and that's fine, that's their choice. But don't automatically assume that parents do not want to listen to their kids on tech purchases. I'm not a kid anymore (28) but my parents have been taking my advice on tech purchases for somewhere in the neighborhood of 14 years.
I have the Onkyo at home (great receiver for the price). Hooked up into this system:
AperionAudio.com
Aperion sells only direct through the internet. They pay for shipping and you get to try them out for 30 days. If you don't like them, ship them back and they'll flip the bill.
Total when I bought it was about $1800. If you want to go cheaper, you can get their entry level system for about $700 (just for the speakers). They come in cherry or a piano black.
Let me guess, you're the owner of a Bose system you bought at Best Buy, making sure to pay for their extended warranty and Monster cables all around?
If you actually believe that I was meaning to literally buy something else, telling her its Bose and then putting some fake emblems on them, then I just don't know what to say. I mean, its not like she'd notice the lack of the word Bose on any of several large boxes that show up, right? Oh wait, she's just a parent, that means she's a complete idiot who doesn't know anything and is both blind and deaf.
I would've replied to your post where you quote me, but to be honest, I can't even understand WTF you said, so I figure it was pointless, since you're at least somewhat coherent in this post.
Its obvious that its pretty much futile to get the mother to buy anything other than the Bose, but to make it sound like the OP is being a bad son because he was at least trying to help her maximize her money just baffles me, but it apparently makes sense to someone. Oh, wait, thats right, the parents are always right, how dare anyone question them?
JEDIYoda
Lifer
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So what part of this didn`t you understand?
So my mom here wants to buy the Bose Lifestyle 48 system. I keep telling her for the three thousand and what ever change it costs, I can configure her a much nicer system that would sound much better. But she keeps telling me she doesn't give a damn and just wants the Bose system. It's kind of annoying....she wants me to order it tonight too. So I kind of have some pressure. I think I may have to give in. . Are they as bad as people say they are? I have a pair of Bose Triports and have the Bose SOundDock for my iPod, and am happy with those. Should I risk me life and convince her not to get it? Or just go with it and put an order through...? TIA.
You see what none of us asked the OP is another simple question....
Possibly his mother won`t listen to his suggestions because he could be a complete jerk for a son and not actually know anything about this subject...
Or Dear Mom has asked him in the past for opinions and his opinions have turned out to be jusat that an opinion that went sour....
Mom knows what she wants ao why post in this forum to begin with?
All these kiddies saying Bose are a bad product obviously have not read reviews on this equipment!
Other than the high price I have read alot of reviews saying this was a very good system!
Google.com for reviews....
So what part of what I am saying doesn`t make sense?
Ika
Lifer
- Mar 22, 2006
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Bose systems do sound nice, but you can get the same quality equipment for half the price. For Bose, about half of what you are paying for is for the name (which goes to marketing, so the name gets more recognition, which means more people buy bose, which means more marketing, and the cycle continues.) Bose has done a great job making expensive stuff look like it sounds amazing.
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: ArJuN
So my mom here wants to buy the Bose Lifestyle 48 system. I keep telling her for the three thousand and what ever change it costs, I can configure her a much nicer system that would sound much better. But she keeps telling me she doesn't give a damn and just wants the Bose system. It's kind of annoying....she wants me to order it tonight too. So I kind of have some pressure. I think I may have to give in.. Are they as bad as people say they are? I have a pair of Bose Triports and have the Bose SOundDock for my iPod, and am happy with those. Should I risk me life and convince her not to get it? Or just go with it and put an order through...? TIA.
Why do kids always have to think that they know whats best for there parents?
Your mom wants it thats is all you need to know!
order it!!
QFT.
It's what your mother wants, so shut up and give it to her!!
I didn't bother to read to see if you already bought the Bose, but if not, have your mom read Consumer Reports. As an old person myself, I put a lot more faith in CR than I do in tech-junkie know-it-alls. She is not looking for the best technology, highest power, latest gadgets, etc. She wants a name-brand, reliable product that looks good, is easy to use, and comes from a company with a good name. Bose meets all those requirements. But so does Sony, and a few others.
Consumer Reports compares some theater-in-a-box models (admittedly lower end than this Lifestyle model) but the article has some good info. She may read something there that makes her question what she needs.
Consumer Reports compares some theater-in-a-box models (admittedly lower end than this Lifestyle model) but the article has some good info. She may read something there that makes her question what she needs.
I came up with the recommendation based on reviews I read at avsforum (just like the other posters mentioned). From what I've read, they are supposed to be amazing and a good value at their price points. I haven't personally listened to either though.
Ohhh PUHLEEEZE.
For that to be true American Manufacturing would have had to have pulled up, en masse, and moved offshore to third world countries..... oh wait...... nevermind.
So, really, who frikken cares what OTHER PEOPLE like???
That's like saying "Chevy's suck!". ALL OF THEm SUCK!!!
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