Borderlands 2 release date and preorder

[KaOTiK]

Does anyone actually like Physx? I don't think I've tried it in a game before BL2 (and I don't actually know if having an AMD card makes a difference) but it wrecked my FPS and it looked absolutely horrible. It was like everything exploded into little pieces of torn up paper, really didn't like it at all.

Having an AMD card makes a big difference and is why your FPS get wrecked.

Borderlands 2 is the first game where I found Physx is actually pretty cool. Some of it is over done, but it adds a nice bit to the game with the cloth moving and be torn, also apprantly from what I read the physx is tied to how enemies get gibbed when killed (from blowing up into many gibs to just kinda falling over). The physx effect is really cool though when using singularity grenades. It looks like crap with liquids though.

 

[KaOTiK]

Cool, hadn't seen those.

Yeah, been trying to farm the Siren one with no luck. Killed that giant ass bug 5 times and not a single legendary yet.

 

[cytoSiN]

Does anyone actually like Physx? I don't think I've tried it in a game before BL2 (and I don't actually know if having an AMD card makes a difference) but it wrecked my FPS and it looked absolutely horrible. It was like everything exploded into little pieces of torn up paper, really didn't like it at all.

I hear you on the tiny pieces of crap exploding in every scene, but I like some of it. The flags and billowing cloth looks really cool and it's very interactive (e.g., if you fall through a cloth stretched into a frame, you leave a permanent hole behind). I also like how the physx looks on the heads of the shock nomads.

 

[cytoSiN]

Yeah, been trying to farm the Siren one with no luck. Killed that giant ass bug 5 times and not a single legendary yet.

You in TVHM or 2.5?

 

[Qbah]

Does anyone actually like Physx? I don't think I've tried it in a game before BL2 (and I don't actually know if having an AMD card makes a difference) but it wrecked my FPS and it looked absolutely horrible. It was like everything exploded into little pieces of torn up paper, really didn't like it at all.

I do Upgraded my GPU mostly because of this game and I really enjoy the effects - so much stuff flying on the screen! Sparks, dirt, explosions - the game is over the top anyway, PhysX effects fit it very nicely!

 

[Aikouka]

Does anyone actually like Physx? I don't think I've tried it in a game before BL2 (and I don't actually know if having an AMD card makes a difference) but it wrecked my FPS and it looked absolutely horrible. It was like everything exploded into little pieces of torn up paper, really didn't like it at all.

As KaOTiK mentioned, you're tanking your framerates by turning PhysX on. Frankly, I think that Gearbox should help out people by detecting their GPU, and saying, "Hey, this may not be a good idea!," if they attempt to jack up PhysX without having a nVidia card installed. There are people in the Video Cards & Graphics sub-forum that use an AMD card for rendering and a separate nVidia card for PhysX. It would only require a modest 400 or 500 series card (like a 460 or 560) to off-load the PhysX processing without suffering a performance degradation.

As for how PhysX works, it doesn't bother me in most instances, but I have found it produce some annoyances with Phaselock. Sometimes, Phaselock will apparently pull in particles and they happen to swirl all around the enemy. Well, that's not a problem if I just want to arbitrarily shoot it, but if I'm trying to aim for the crit spot, then having a crap ton of debris flying around isn't very helpful. I've had that happen a few times with Rats, and Rats don't have very large heads. It's even worse when it's a Lab Rat since they typically cover their head with their hands when moving, which makes getting crits a lot harder. So, Phaselock usually helps with that... when there's no debris.

 

[KaOTiK]

You in TVHM or 2.5?

2.5 I 100% all the quests

 

[Clinkster]

Just started this game co-op with two other friends. They kept complaining about lag issues. Is there any way to improve network settings in this game (they both have strong connections, and we are all less than 60 ping from each other).

 

[Harrod]

I've been playing as the commando, but wish I had started as Zero and built up the sniping tree. Some of those critical hit upgrades would work well with some of the shotguns I'm now seeing at level 21.

 

[Childs]

I've been playing as the commando, but wish I had started as Zero and built up the sniping tree. Some of those critical hit upgrades would work well with some of the shotguns I'm now seeing at level 21.

Commando is the best. I am playing as Zero now and I have to really be patient and snipe at range. It takes at least twice as long to finish missions that I already did with the command or gunzerker. With the commando, I just rush in, drop the turret, and kill everything.

 

[mizzou]

been playing w/ my wife. up to level 10 now and liking this alot more than borderlands 1. I will say, I dislike the new inventory system quite a bit.

 

[OCNewbie]

Sometimes, Phaselock will apparently pull in particles and they happen to swirl all around the enemy. Well, that's not a problem if I just want to arbitrarily shoot it, but if I'm trying to aim for the crit spot, then having a crap ton of debris flying around isn't very helpful.

I've noticed this and have found it VERY annoying on my Siren. Another thing is when I PL the mobs, and for some reason, they almost always seem to end up PL'd facing away from me, with their heads nodded forward, so I have to strafe around to their front side to get a clear shot at their heads. That's annoying. I don't know why PL'ng a mob would rotate the mob 180 degrees.

 

[coloumb]

The only annoyance I have is not being able to compare weapon types against each other without having to go through the entire list [from what I recall - BL1 had this feature - made it extremely quick/easy to determine which weapons to keep].

As with BL1 - I went with the "Stealth Melee" class this time and lovin it.

I noticed the difficulty level of the mobs increased as soon as I hit "The Fridge" area - took a bit to figure out how to take down what I like to call "rock tanks" on the frozen lake.

 

[Borealis7]

The only annoyance I have is not being able to compare weapon types against each other without having to go through the entire list [from what I recall - BL1 had this feature - made it extremely quick/easy to determine which weapons to keep].

As with BL1 - I went with the "Stealth Melee" class this time and lovin it.

I noticed the difficulty level of the mobs increased as soon as I hit "The Fridge" area - took a bit to figure out how to take down what I like to call "rock tanks" on the frozen lake.

you do know you can press "E" and it locks an item for comparison, right?

and those "rock tanks" - crystalisks - i kill them in 3 sniper shots, 1 to each leg (critical spots).

 

[OCNewbie]

and those "rock tanks" - crystalisks - i kill them in 3 sniper shots, 1 to each leg (critical spots).

I play Zer0, so I use Deception, and get in close for one free melee shot to one leg, then I just circle strafe and quickly melee hit the other two spots for a quick kill. Most of the time I take very little, if any, damage.

 

[Demo24]

Pulled two neat pistols out of my gold chest. One is a etech slag pistol who's bullets take about 2 secs or so before they explode with slag. Its neat and does a lot of damage but a bit inaccurate. The other was a 60 bullet auto bandit pistol, only downside being a bit slow of fire rate. Solved all those problems when I got a significant pistol statistic upgrade through a relic.

Now with mods on both pistols and assault rifles I can rip things up!

Got a new slag sniper rifle too which seems to talk to me, at least its not near as annoying as the bane, lol.

 

[Madia]

I have a question about Jack's motivation for getting all the vault hunters on the train in the beginning. I'll use spoiler tags.

Spoiler

I watched the youtube videos that show the backstory echos of Jack finding each of the four vault hunters. In each set of them, Angel informs Jack of a potential vault hunter and Jack manipulates the situation so they become vault hunters and get on the train. My question is why did he want them to become vault hunters in the first place?

When I was playing the game I assumed that Jack didn't want any vault hunters messing with his plans on pandora so to get rid of them he had a ruse of needing their help and whenever a group signed up he'd simply have them killed. With Axton and Maya, both didn't know anything about the vaults (Maya wasn't even on the planet) so why make them into vault hunters only to have them killed?

So what was Jack's motivation in finding potential vault hunters? Why manipulate them into becoming vault hunters only to kill them rather than just letting them stay in the dark and never becoming vault hunters in the first place?

 

[cytoSiN]

I have a question about Jack's motivation for getting all the vault hunters on the train in the beginning. I'll use spoiler tags.

Spoiler

I watched the youtube videos that show the backstory echos of Jack finding each of the four vault hunters. In each set of them, Angel informs Jack of a potential vault hunter and Jack manipulates the situation so they become vault hunters and get on the train. My question is why did he want them to become vault hunters in the first place?

When I was playing the game I assumed that Jack didn't want any vault hunters messing with his plans on pandora so to get rid of them he had a ruse of needing their help and whenever a group signed up he'd simply have them killed. With Axton and Maya, both didn't know anything about the vaults (Maya wasn't even on the planet) so why make them into vault hunters only to have them killed?

So what was Jack's motivation in finding potential vault hunters? Why manipulate them into becoming vault hunters only to kill them rather than just letting them stay in the dark and never becoming vault hunters in the first place?

I think you're right...

Spoiler

he wanted to get rid of them/kill them. I'm not sure what videos you watched, but I think that Axton was on the planet (being "tortured" by Bandits), and regardless of whether Maya was on the planet, she's a siren and therefore a threat.

 

[SunnyD]

AHHH! WAAAH!!!! My lovely purple sniper rifle that I found that does ridiculous damage + burn with a stupid fast rate of fire (like faster than a SMG) + melee bonus damage was starting to get outleveled in a bad way. Like needing 3 or 4 headshot crits to take down regular mobs.

But apparently that's okay because as I was chugging along just starting to complain, I opened a weapon chest along the way and find a nice shiny new purple sniper rifle that does 3x more damage + shock damage. No melee bonus and a much slower rate of fire, but it hits plenty hard enough.

Something ridiculously fun as a siren - phaselock with the skill that does the burn damage, then a weapon that does other periodic damage. Dots away!

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

I have a question about Jack's motivation for getting all the vault hunters on the train in the beginning. I'll use spoiler tags.

Spoiler

I watched the youtube videos that show the backstory echos of Jack finding each of the four vault hunters. In each set of them, Angel informs Jack of a potential vault hunter and Jack manipulates the situation so they become vault hunters and get on the train. My question is why did he want them to become vault hunters in the first place?

When I was playing the game I assumed that Jack didn't want any vault hunters messing with his plans on pandora so to get rid of them he had a ruse of needing their help and whenever a group signed up he'd simply have them killed. With Axton and Maya, both didn't know anything about the vaults (Maya wasn't even on the planet) so why make them into vault hunters only to have them killed?

So what was Jack's motivation in finding potential vault hunters? Why manipulate them into becoming vault hunters only to kill them rather than just letting them stay in the dark and never becoming vault hunters in the first place?

Spoiler

He wasn't trying to actually kill them. If he had been, he would've sent Wilhelm. His goal was to establish them as his enemies so they'd start working with Roland, and then he could use them to destroy Sanctuary. At least, that's what I got out of it.

 

[Aikouka]

I got tired of my bags being full of stuff for other characters, so I decided to make a Commando. Ugh, why oh why does the game have to force you to spend so long to get access to the stash. Diablo III makes you wait 30 seconds... Torchlight II makes you wait 0 seconds... Borderlands 2 makes you wait hours (depending on how much you want to complete everything).

Get with the program, Gearbox. This is a goddamn loot game, let me get to my loot!

I play Zer0, so I use Deception, and get in close for one free melee shot to one leg, then I just circle strafe and quickly melee hit the other two spots for a quick kill. Most of the time I take very little, if any, damage.

Those guys have an odd penchant for doing a ridiculous amount of damage to me if I'm not careful. I'm not even sure what they do other than hump the ground and shoot some brown goo at me, which normally misses me. :$

 

[cytoSiN]

Get with the program, Gearbox. This is a goddamn loot game, let me get to my loot!

Amen.

 

[KaOTiK]

I got tired of my bags being full of stuff for other characters, so I decided to make a Commando. Ugh, why oh why does the game have to force you to spend so long to get access to the stash. Diablo III makes you wait 30 seconds... Torchlight II makes you wait 0 seconds... Borderlands 2 makes you wait hours (depending on how much you want to complete everything).

Get with the program, Gearbox. This is a goddamn loot game, let me get to my loot!



Those guys have an odd penchant for doing a ridiculous amount of damage to me if I'm not careful. I'm not even sure what they do other than hump the ground and shoot some brown goo at me, which normally misses me. :$

You can access your bank and the player shared stash in Claptraps place. The shared stash is in a closet when you first enter claptraps main room where the fire place is, turn right and go to the wall it is right there, a few feet to your left from there is the bank.

 

[cytoSiN]

You can access your bank and the player shared stash in Claptraps place. The shared stash is in a closet when you first enter claptraps main room where the fire place is, turn right and go to the wall it is right there, a few feet to your left from there is the bank.

No shit? Well that's downright convenient!

 

[Aikouka]

You can access your bank and the player shared stash in Claptraps place. The shared stash is in a closet when you first enter claptraps main room where the fire place is, turn right and go to the wall it is right there, a few feet to your left from there is the bank.

Can you do that when you first start the game on play-through 1? The game only gives you access to them in Sanctuary after quests and such. :$