Troll, troll, troll your boat gently down the stream, I'll post a specious topic to prove I'm not stuck up Shit Creek in my sinking boat named "A Winning Argument"! Lame attempt to vindicate your stance in the Florida shooting topic.
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Facts in the article are sketchy. I don't know if racism was involved or not. It does sound like she should have stayed locked in her car or driven off. If the guy tried to get in by breaking the window, etc. then she had the option to shoot. Instead, she opened the door then shot him. Similar in that respect to the Florida incident.
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I don't believe this woman was justified in her actions. Trigger happy, just like Mr. Zimmerman
Agreed.
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With the tailgating discharging of weapon Kicking and cussing of the downed biker. Ya it looks racist.
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"Minding his own business" and "...approaches car to see" what's your problem"?" do not mesh. I reject your premise. And jeez, 2008? Weak sauce.
My first thought was she's probably protected by the Castle Doctrine, but who knows if Indiana had that back in '08.
EDIT: I don't need to be mean about it.
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I don't think this or the other shooting were justified because both shooters needlessly escalated the situation. Neither of the vics had or brandished weapons from what I could gather from the articles.
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I really don't know if I understand what racism is . After watching this video It really is a gray area.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mno1SqjmQ0g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mno1SqjmQ0g
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How you get "just minding his own business" from the facts as presented in the story is just mind-boggling. And when your own quotation has the police saying that the woman acted in self-defense, there just has to be a screw loose in your brain for you to see this incident as racism.
Get help.
Terrible choice of story to try to defend your stance in the Zimmerman thread. This woman got at least 10 years, and it was not a "good shoot."
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I tend to think what this situation demonstrates is that upon shooting someone to death, the shooter will likely claim 'self defense' to avoid prison. I.e., not all claims are valid.
Beyond that, I don't see much.
Edit: Changed my mind, the other thing this story demonstrates is that witnesses are might damn helpful when it comes to confirming or debunking a claim of self defense.
Fern
Beyond that, I don't see much.
Edit: Changed my mind, the other thing this story demonstrates is that witnesses are might damn helpful when it comes to confirming or debunking a claim of self defense.
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The point was there was no racial outrage at the shooter not getting arrested immediately. The point is she wasn't arrested until after a thorough investigation was done.
No call for "justice" and a lynching of the shooter without evidence. Also the point that there is no mention of race in the stories.
This story was very close to me, it received little attention. There was no white militia promising to march on her seeking vengeance. An innocent white man was nearly murdered by a black woman, where was the outrage? Why no outrage at her not getting arrested immediately?
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Did she get out of her vehicle and chase the guy down before killing him? Is there a 911 call where she identifies the person's race and says that she's not going to let another one of those axxholes get away again?
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She deserves the death penalty, but the sexist criminal system would never allow that. Not that I'm saying the 17 year old boy in the other story was likely to be an aggressor, but I can see how it might be hard to prove that the Zimmerman dude wasn't acting in self defence. In a roadrage case like this in public (and I'm assuming daylight), there's no way you can assume that a pissed off guy is a likely threat.
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Really? Cause what I see is claiming self defense really screws things up for police making an arrest. She walked off (till later), just like Zimmerman is walking away.
2nd point - I'm sorry but I didn't hear her 9/11 call, did she repeatedly describe the motorcyclist as a "white man". As Zimmerman referred to Martin as being black, more than once, also that he appeared drugged (who knows why he thought that.) Maybe Zimmermans focus on race opened the media up to bringing that up, ofc, you'll deny that I'm sure.
& Finally, you close by insisting that a white militia should have went after this women.
I'm new, thanks for clearing up why people around here always call you a racist.
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