Black teenager who was shot after mistakenly going to the wrong house begged neighbors for help — but was ignored

[cytg111]

Speaking of….

Why is these white boys roaming the streets?

Seth Abramson (@seth.abramson) on Threads

I hope anyone reading this who has a friend who’s a public defender will ask that friend how many of their clients of color were allowed to stay free on bail post-conviction. Ask that friend how quickly police and prosecutors threaten with prosecution any poor or working-class witness they...

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[igor_kavinski]

Early days of COVID lockdown here in Abu Dhabi. I go to a Hardee's and stand outside as everyone is coz no one is allowed inside. There's this attractive blonde chick standing there, waiting for her order. A female staff passes by me and I ask her if she can take my order. Suddenly, the blonde chick stares at me angrily and then starts screaming at the poor staff, "Where is my order??? YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT I WILL DO IF MY ORDER IS DELAYED ANY FURTHER!" and a bunch of other stuff.

I have no idea how my interaction with the staff triggered her. Maybe the blonde thought that if the staff took my order, it would somehow delay her order even more? Anyway, she was American. As white as they come. Everyone just looked at her incredulously as she seethed until she got her order. A few people stepped back including I think I too. Didn't want the police to come there and then have to explain that I or we didn't do anything and were just standing there when she suddenly blew a gasket.

 

[you2]

Early days of COVID lockdown here in Abu Dhabi. I go to a Hardee's and stand outside as everyone is coz no one is allowed inside. There's this attractive blonde chick standing there, waiting for her order. A female staff passes by me and I ask her if she can take my order. Suddenly, the blonde chick stares at me angrily and then starts screaming at the poor staff, "Where is my order??? YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT I WILL DO IF MY ORDER IS DELAYED ANY FURTHER!" and a bunch of other stuff.

I have no idea how my interaction with the staff triggered her. Maybe the blonde thought that if the staff took my order, it would somehow delay her order even more? Anyway, she was American. As white as they come. Everyone just looked at her incredulously as she seethed until she got her order. A few people stepped back including I think I too. Didn't want the police to come there and then have to explain that I or we didn't do anything and were just standing there when she suddenly blew a gasket.

I thought in Abu dhabi white americans could be arrested for making threats or swearing ?

 

[igor_kavinski]

I thought in Abu dhabi white americans could be arrested for making threats or swearing ?

Maybe. She must've been special or something.

 

[Brainonska511]

And they got this one right - Monahan was convicted of murder yesterday.

"Monahan had pleaded not guilty to charges of murder in the second degree, reckless endangerment and tampering with physical evidence in the death of 20-year-old Kaylin Gillis on April 15, 2023. He was convicted of all charges after about two hours of deliberations."

The DA "will seek a maximum sentence of 25 years to life when Monahan is sentenced on March 1."

And this guy was sentenced today to 25 years to life.

New York man who killed a woman after a wrong turn in his driveway gets 25 years to life - The Boston Globe

Kaylin Gillis had pulled into Kevin Monahan’s driveway in the town of Hebron last April while looking for a party at another person’s house.

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[you2]

And this guy was sentenced today to 25 years to life.

New York man who killed a woman after a wrong turn in his driveway gets 25 years to life - The Boston Globe

Kaylin Gillis had pulled into Kevin Monahan’s driveway in the town of Hebron last April while looking for a party at another person’s house.

www.bostonglobe.com

You know as outsiders we might say revenge is just; but i just keep thinking what good does this do the victim? Now you might argue it might keep this asshole from doing it again - and i'm fine with locking him up or even throwing him onto a desert island but no matter what you do it will never bring the victim back to life.

 

[K1052]

You know as outsiders we might say revenge is just; but i just keep thinking what good does this do the victim? Now you might argue it might keep this asshole from doing it again - and i'm fine with locking him up or even throwing him onto a desert island but no matter what you do it will never bring the victim back to life.

Revenge would be capital punishment. Murderers should be removed from society and reformed if possible or simply warehoused if not.

 

[Zorba]

And this guy was sentenced today to 25 years to life.

New York man who killed a woman after a wrong turn in his driveway gets 25 years to life - The Boston Globe

Kaylin Gillis had pulled into Kevin Monahan’s driveway in the town of Hebron last April while looking for a party at another person’s house.

www.bostonglobe.com

Please tell the gun has been released, right? Wouldn't want anyone to blame the gun, here, obviously it was the person that killed her, not the gun...

 

[you2]

Revenge would be capital punishment. Murderers should be removed from society and reformed if possible or simply warehoused if not.

I'm not a fan of 'warehouse'; as in i don't want to pay the $$$ for others bullshit behavior; i might be willing to pay for reform but warehousing naw - i say just send them to a deserted island and let them figure it out on their own.

 

[akugami]

I'm not a fan of 'warehouse'; as in i don't want to pay the $$$ for others bullshit behavior; i might be willing to pay for reform but warehousing naw - i say just send them to a deserted island and let them figure it out on their own.

So...send them to Australia?

Simply housing criminals does nothing for us as a society long term. But that's what conservatives want. More jails. Instead of putting money into bettering the living conditions of everyone, which ultimately reduces crimes and is more beneficial to society, the conservatives want more jails. Ignoring the insane costs of housing convicts. That money would be put to better use educating the young, and introducing more social programs to keep kids off the street and becoming productive members of society.

 

[eelw]

So...send them to Australia?

Simply housing criminals does nothing for us as a society long term. But that's what conservatives want. More jails. Instead of putting money into bettering the living conditions of everyone, which ultimately reduces crimes and is more beneficial to society, the conservatives want more jails. Ignoring the insane costs of housing convicts. That money would be put to better use educating the young, and introducing more social programs to keep kids off the street and becoming productive members of society.

Nah no need to send them that far. Just Bugs Bunny Florida. Problem solved.

But yeah wasted money. Imagine if all the money spend on military and is used on everything you mentioned. And not waste so much money campaigning during elections. Nah congress critters, need to reduce social programs.

 

[HomerJS]

My bigger problem are the people they choose to house

We have this guy who I lose no sleep over but we have people like Crystal Mason. 5 years in prison for 1 fucking provisional vote.

Did I mention she is black and like other people of color get disproportionate punishment. There are a long list of white people who were found guilty of more counts of voter and election fraud. I have yet found one receiving anywhere to that amount of time.

 

[Fenixgoon]

My bigger problem are the people they choose to house

We have this guy who I lose no sleep over but we have people like Crystal Mason. 5 years in prison for 1 fucking provisional vote.

Did I mention she is black and like other people of color get disproportionate punishment. There are a long list of white people who were found guilty of more counts of voter and election fraud. I have yet found one receiving anywhere to that amount of time.

Just look at that community in Florida that had an abnormal number of fraudulent votes for trump. How many of them saw 5 years?

4th resident of The Villages admits to voting twice in the 2020 election

All four residents of The Villages charged with voting twice in the 2020 election have now admitted to the crime, court records show.

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[akugami]

@eelw

The Australia comment was in direct response to you2's comment about sending criminals to a deserted island. That's exactly what parts of Australia was used for, a penal colony far away from England.

Either way it is short sighted to reduce social programs, and increase jail capacity. It is far better to use such funding to increase programs that educate kids and keep them off the street.

Depending on location, it costs between $35k to $70k per year to house an inmate. That money can be better spent on social programs that enrich the lives of neighborhoods. Every child who avoids going down the criminal path is saving society at least $35k per year. And the actual savings is much higher because the child grows up to be a beneficial member of society.

 

[HomerJS]

Family of Black teen shot in head after ringing doorbell of wrong home sues gunman and HOA​

MSN

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[Zorba]

WTF does the HOA have to do with it? I've never seen an HOA that can force an annoying or violent neighbor to move out.

 

[pmv]

So...send them to Australia?

Already tried that. Didn't go well. Ended up creating...Australia. (And then being repeatedly beaten at Cricket).

Actually, prior to that we transported undesirables to the Americas. I'd suggest that turned out even worse.

 

[Pens1566]

WTF does the HOA have to do with it? I've never seen an HOA that can force an annoying or violent neighbor to move out.

Saw something on the news earlier about it and there were apparently complaints filed with the HOA and that they were aware of his behavior/tendencies, and did nothing about it. It's possible he was somehow in violation of the covenants and they didn't follow through.

HOA is latin for "selective enforcement of the rules depending on who you are or who you know".

 

[Zorba]

Saw something on the news earlier about it and there were apparently complaints filed with the HOA and that they were aware of his behavior/tendencies, and did nothing about it. It's possible he was somehow in violation of the covenants and they didn't follow through.

HOA is latin for "selective enforcement of the rules depending on who you are or who you know".

I've read many covenants and been on the HOA for 8 years. I've never seen anything the HOA can do to someone being an asshole, outside of maybe noise/parking. Maybe this was some special type of retirement community or something.

People complain about dogs to our HOA constantly, there is literally nothing we can do about it, call animal control not the HOA. If your neighbor is being a dick, you're probably better off calling the police or a lawyer than the HOA.

 

[Stokely]

The hope would be that whackos like the driveway shooter guy being tossed in jail might be a deterrent for the next scared old white dude to let loose his shootin' irons because some migrant gang member came onto his lawn (or whatever they think is happening). No idea if it actually is a deterrent, but if it is, there's your "good outcome for society" (if not the victim) for tossing mr Rambo in jail.

 

[HomerJS]

Yet another person who should never be allowed to own a gun. People should pass a recurring test to renew their license. Gun operation, safety and psychological exam.

 

[you2]

Yet another person who should never be allowed to own a gun. People should pass a recurring test to renew their license. Gun operation, safety and psychological exam.

But then the republicans would scream (for political reasons) bloody murder on 2nd amendment restrictions. At least from their perspective better to be elected then save a few lives they consider 'worthless'.

 

[Pens1566]

I've read many covenants and been on the HOA for 8 years. I've never seen anything the HOA can do to someone being an asshole, outside of maybe noise/parking. Maybe this was some special type of retirement community or something.

People complain about dogs to our HOA constantly, there is literally nothing we can do about it, call animal control not the HOA. If your neighbor is being a dick, you're probably better off calling the police or a lawyer than the HOA.

I've also had my fair share of experience in/on HOAs, and one thing I've learned is never to be surprised with the level of restrictions that some will try and place on residents. It's entirely possible the board (or members) somehow knew of his tendencies and did nothing about it. It's possible he was in constant minor violations and they never enacted their specified enforcement mechanisms for whatever reason.

I'm not saying it's a legit claim, just that I wouldn't be shocked if there was some involvement that would somehow implicate the board.

Also, fuck HOAs.

 

[Zorba]

I've also had my fair share of experience in/on HOAs, and one thing I've learned is never to be surprised with the level of restrictions that some will try and place on residents. It's entirely possible the board (or members) somehow knew of his tendencies and did nothing about it. It's possible he was in constant minor violations and they never enacted their specified enforcement mechanisms for whatever reason.

I'm not saying it's a legit claim, just that I wouldn't be shocked if there was some involvement that would somehow implicate the board.

Also, fuck HOAs.

I highly doubt it. Enforcing the lawn height or no parking in the street wouldn't have prevented this shooting. Feel free to provide evidence HOAs have the power to force someone to move or to take their guns. I know a lot of people make HOAs out to be all powerful boogiemen, but the reality is far different, especially in lower cost of living places.

Condos boards have a little more power, but I still doubt they can force an asshole to move.

 

[Pens1566]

I highly doubt it. Enforcing the lawn height or no parking in the street wouldn't have prevented this shooting. Feel free to provide evidence HOAs have the power to force someone to move or to take their guns. I know a lot of people make HOAs out to be all powerful boogiemen, but the reality is far different, especially in lower cost of living places.

Condos boards have a little more power, but I still doubt they can force an asshole to move.

No, you're misunderstanding. I'm saying that in the course of their normal interactions over (possibly trivial) violations they encountered this man and his violent/anti-social reactions and then did nothing about that.

Say he didn't cut his grass right and they contacted him about it, where he threatened them as a result. That sort of thing. At least, based on the reports of how they're named in the suit. It's reported they are named for negligence in that sort of way.