Black Ops 2 Thread - 11-13-12

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BD2003

Lifer
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Notes from the reveal:

-The knife is now an equippable item, not just a quick thumb press

That only came out when he ran out of bullets, so maybe that's just a reflection he's all out.

-Attack Dogs KS is back

I absolutely despise this streak, but I love watching my dog run around the room trying to find the intruder. :p
 

fbrdphreak

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I think the dogs KS is an awesome one, WHEN KS don't stack. It's a great reward for an 11 streak, but not with stacking.

The streaks in Blops were powerful and more difficult to destroy, but they were harder to get. MW3's streaks are easier to destroy, but also easier to get thanks to streak stacking.
 

Sixguns

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I dont know if I am going to get this or not which is weird because I am huge CoD fan. I am not sure how the future warfare will play out.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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I dont know if I am going to get this or not which is weird because I am huge CoD fan. I am not sure how the future warfare will play out.

It's going to feel 90% the same. It's not like they're shooting lasers and throwing plasma grenades at each other.
 

Sixguns

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It's going to feel 90% the same. It's not like they're shooting lasers and throwing plasma grenades at each other.

I know that I will get it just because its CoD. I havent played MW3 in months but I have never been able to play xbox games for more than a few months before they get old.
 

Kev

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Really looking forward to this. I need my COD fix. I think I only had MW3 for 4 weeks before I couldn't deal with its shittiness anymore.
 

Kev

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Yeah, but while there are all these new tactics thanks to the weapons/equipment/kill streaks, there will also be counters to them.

The only thing I really want is a more balanced version of Assassin. One perk that negates every thing about tracking enemies, from UAVs to C-UAVs to motion sensors, is too much. Separate the motion sensor aspect like they did in BO with Hacker or something.

That way if someone wants to really stay off the radar and play like a douche, they give up a lot by choosing 3 perks to stay undetected (e.g. Blind Eye + Assassin + Hacker).

why do people get so butthurt about other players using stealth classes?
 

sygyzy

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I actually like the way this one looks. I didn't like that one preview (of some MW/COD game) where it looked like the year 2215 or something.

Edit: oops, is this the one that takes place in the future? I didn't get that vibe from this trailer like I did in other videos...
 
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coldmeat

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Really looking forward to this. I need my COD fix. I think I only had MW3 for 4 weeks before I couldn't deal with its shittiness anymore.

I'm still playing Black Ops regularly.
 

Kabob

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why do people get so butthurt about other players using stealth classes?

Because it completely negates the most used killstreak in the game and in the past two games there's been no other perk for the same slot that comes anywhere close to being as powerful. While I didn't like Stopping Power that much I liked the fact that to use stealth there was an actual trade-off (killing power vs. undetectability).

So more info has been speculated, it looks like you get 10 "slots" for any loadout and that covers weapons, attachments, perks, equipment, etc. You can get up to two perks from each tier and if you do so you get a "bonus" perk for combining certain perks. You can also get multiples of equipment (2x C4, etc). I don't know if there's a weighted value system or what but I watched this breakdown video yesterday and he had some good observations.

I don't know how much validity there is to this but this is the "supposed" list of perks.

Juggernaut:
Your health will be regenerated faster while moving.
Juggernaut Pro: Health regenerated while crouching too.
Juggernaut Elite: with ‘scavenger’ you can drop ammo supply for your team mates

Diver:
Anytime a gun is pointed at you, your character can dolphin dive out the way. You can shoot while diving, and it will take time to regain focus.
Diver Pro: Crawl 2x faster.
Diver Elite: with ‘Extreme conditioning’ you can crawl 3x faster.

Escape Artist:
you will feign death, you can’t shoot while going prone.
Escape Artist Pro: When approaching death, your enemies will stunned and your red name will disappear.
Escape Artist Elite: with ‘Diver’ you will feign death instead of diving.

Pilot:
Your flying killstreaks will be counted for the next killstreak.
Pilot Pro: Your controllable flying killstreaks will stay till it gets shot.
Pilot Elite: with ‘Blind Eye’ your uncontrollable flying killstreaks won’t appear on the map.

Spy:
Appears as a friend on the map, when shooting your color turns into red.
Spy Pro: Detect enemy spies, they will be spotted on the radar.
Spy Elite: along with ‘Pilot’ your airship will appears as a friend’s for your enemies.

Bladesman:
Hold two knives in two hands instead of a one.
Bladesman Pro: You will have the ability to dodge an incoming enemy’s knife.
Bladesman Elite: with ‘Assasin’ your knife hit will be completely silent. Unless your enemy is using ‘Audiophile’.

Audiophile:
Players using silent weapons will be shown on radar if they are close to you.
Audiophile Pro: Your enemy footsteps will be louder.
Audiophile Elite: with ‘Bladesman’ knife hits will be shown on radar.

Defuser:
Throw equipments 2x faster, and the circle will fill in 3 seconds. When the circle is full, it will throw 2x farther.
Defuser Pro: Pick up enemy Claymores and but it anywhere you want and can take semtex off a player and throw it off.
Defuser Elite: with ‘Quickdraw’ circle is full in 1.5 seconds only.

Technician:
Your land killstreaks will be counted for the next killstreak
Technician Pro: Your Advnaced UAVs will jam your enemies UAVs.
Technician Elite: with ‘Defuser’ your sentry will last for more time.

Deep Impact:
Your bullets penetrate walls.
Deep Impact Pro: your bullets gain 50% damage for every person they pass through.
Deep Impact Elite: with ‘Steady Aim’ while hip firing your bullets cause 10% more damage for every person they path through.

Conciousness:
Better accuracy while standing.
Conciousness Pro: More flinching is caused by your bullets.
Conciousness Elite: with ‘Marksman’ your enemies will be marked when shot.

Focus:
You can shoot while sprinting.
Focus Pro: You can shoot while jumping.
Focus Elite: with ‘Stalker’ you will get lower damage from equipments.

I don't know how real this is but if this is anything close this is DRASTICALLY different than any setup we've yet seen in CoD, more signs of Treyarch trying to evolve the game rather than just modify it. Then again, this could be completely fake, I'm just not sure.
 

fbrdphreak

Lifer
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That's an old list and I hope it's inaccurate. Some of that shit just seems stupid and annoying.

Also, "Focus" references a perk called "Stalker," which I don't see in the list.
 

Saint Nick

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I've bought or played all of the Duties since four, but this one does not interest me. I think I've mostly just lost interest in playing CoD.
 

Kev

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That list looks fake. If not, Escape Artist Elite has potential to be the worst perk in COD history.
 
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That list has to be fake. You can tell someone made it up with the way they wrote each description. The actual perk list/descriptions will sound much more professional.
 
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Focus:
You can shoot while sprinting.
Focus Pro: You can shoot while jumping.
Focus Elite: with ‘Stalker’ you will get lower damage from equipments.

You can do this in any COD game already.
 

exdeath

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If my friends pick it up, I will as well. Treyarch has surpassed IW in the COD series. MW3 was the least fun I've had in a COD game.

Besides, if you guys think COD is bad for releasing the same game with "minor" updates, take a look at Street Fighter. SF2 had 4, well 5 if you count HD Remix, versions, each requiring a NEW arcade cabinet; SF3 had 3 editions, SF4 is on its 2nd edition with damn near required $15 DLC update.

Capcom has been doing this for years. And with each new edition, it has been better than the following. Even MvC3 had a new release in less than a year.

The difference is back then you had 100s of independent developers doing their own thing. There was no shortage of "other" games if you didn't want to play Madden or Street Fighter. RPGs, shooters, and platformers weren't catering to the mainstream or trying to get a piece of the Street Fighter pie, they were carving their own niche. The popularity of Street Fighter didn't have Shigeru Mitamoto coming out saying the next Mario or Zelda will be like Street Fighter or Madden to reach the mainstream or increase profit.

Now you have two giants milking less than a handful of franchises, buying out or squashing any competition and squatting on IP indefinitely , and pretty much single handedly running the game industry. Then the related issue of others seeing the money and turning THEIR franchises (Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, etc) into "Call of Duty clones". If a new developer brings something cool and it gains in popularity, Activision or EA will snatch it up with quickness and "Call of Dutyize" it and rush it 2 years early full of bugs for holiday sales. Then after screwing it up and chasing the most devoted fans away, either blame piracy or say its not what gamers want. OK release another Call of Duty to cover our tracks.

The death cry of gaming is when you have people on record like Capcom saying the next Resident Evil will cater to Call of Duty players. THIS is the real problem, not Call of Duty itself.

Its not Call of Duty we hate. Its how its dragging down other genres that we hate.
 
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benzylic

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That list looks fake. If not, Escape Artist Elite has potential to be the worst perk in COD history.

This.

I'm getting kind of tired of Call of Duty, but I also really dont like the maps in MW3. With that being said though I'll probably end up getting it because my friends will all move on to BO2, and its no fun playing with yourself.
 
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This.

I'm getting kind of tired of Call of Duty, but I also really dont like the maps in MW3. With that being said though I'll probably end up getting it because my friends will all move on to BO2, and its no fun playing with yourself.

oh really?
 

BD2003

Lifer
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Yeah, that list is so obviously fake. Don't waste any time even considering it.

Blops 2 will feature loot, like diablo. Thats what those three mystery slots are. You heard it here first. :)
 

Sixguns

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Yeah, that list is so obviously fake. Don't waste any time even considering it.

Blops 2 will feature loot, like diablo. Thats what those three mystery slots are. You heard it here first. :)


Sweet! I cant wait to get a legendary weapon:rolleyes:
 

Nemesis13

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New changes
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/14/black-ops-2-rebooting-call-of-duty-multiplayer

And Legit Classes and Guns

http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012...uty-black-ops-2-create-a-class-options-so-far

Primary Weapons

Assault Rifles

AN-94
SMR
M8A1
Type 25
SA58
Sig 556
SCAR-H
Shotguns

m1216
Seiga 12
R870-MCS
Light Machine Guns

LSAT
QBB-LSW
Mk 48
Sniper Rifles

DSR-50
SVU-AS
Ballista
Special

Assault Shield
Sub-Machine Guns

MP7
Chicom QCB
PDW-57
Skorpion EVO 3
MSMC


Secondary Weapons

Launchers

SMAW
RPG
FJH-18AA
Pistols

KAP-40
Tac-45
Executioner
u23-R
No Weapon Equipped

Combat Knife
Primary Attachments (Assault Rifle Only)

Reflex Scope
ACOG
Target Finder — Sight which highlights enemies when they enter the field-of-view
Hybrid Optic
Suppresser
Fast Mag
Adjustable Stock
Quickdraw
Grenade Scanner
Millimeter Scanner
Grenade Launcher
Select Fire
FMJ
Extended Clip
Secondary Attachments (Pistol Only)

Reflex
Suppressor
Extended Clip
Fast Mag
FMJ
Dual Wield
Laser Sight


Perk 1

Flak Jacket — Take less explosive damage.
Ghost — Cannot be detected by enemy UAVs while moving.
Blind Eye — Unaffected by AI-controlled perks.
Hardline — Receive bonus score points.
Lightweight — Move faster, take no damage from falling.
Perk 2

Hard-wired — Immune to counter-UAV and enemy EMPs.
Scavenger — Replenish ammo and grenades from fallen enemies.
Cold-blooded — Resistance to targeting systems including Dual Band, Target Finder, Sensor Grenades and player-controlled aircraft.
Toughness — Flinch less when shot.
Fast Hands — Swap grenades faster, use grenades and equipment faster, and safely throw back frag grenades.
Perk 3

Engineer — Show enemy equipment in the world, delay explosives and re-roll and booby trap care packages.
Dead Silence — Move silently.
Extreme Conditioning — Sprint for a longer duration.
Tactical Mask — Reduce the effect of flash, concussion and shock charges.
Awareness — Enemy movements are easier to hear.
Dexterity — Climb ladders and mantle over objects faster, recover from melee faster and aim faster after sprinting.
Lethal Grenades

Grenade — Produces lethal radius damage upon detonation.
Semtex — Grenade that sticks to surfaces before detonating.
Combat Axe — Retrievable axe that causes instant death upon impact.
Claymore — Directional antipersonnel mine that triggers a proximity-based explosion.
C4 — Plastic explosive device that can be set and triggered remotely.
Bouncing Betty — Proximity mine that launches into the air before detonating. Can be avoided by crouching or going prone.
Tactical Grenades

Sensor Grenade
Flashbang
Concussion
Shock Charge — A deployable charge which stuns enemies that enter its proximity.
EMP Grenade
Tactical Insertion
Smoke Grenade
Black Hat PDA — Hack equipment and care packages, or disable enemy vehicles.
One additional point can be spent on any tactical grenade to bring two of the same type into battle when you spawn.


Wildcards

Primary Gunfighter — Allows a 3rd attachment for the primary weapon.
Secondary Gunfighter — Allows a 2nd attachment for the secondary weapon.
Overkill — Take a primary weapon as your secondary weapon.
Danger Close — Take a second Lethal.
Perk 1 Greed — Take a second Perk 1.
Perk 2 Greed — Take a second Perk 2.
Perk 3 Greed — Take a second Perk 3.
Tactician — Take a Tactical grenade in place of your lethal Grenade.
Scorestreaks

RCC — 325 points — A remote-controlled car packed with explosives.
UAV — 375 points — Shows enemies on the mini-map.
Hunter Killer — 400 points — Airborne drone that seeks out and destroys a nearby target.
Care Package — 450 points — Air drop a random Scorestreak.
Counter-UAV — 475 points — Temporarily disables enemy radar.
Guardian — 500 points — Projects microwave field which stuns and impairs enemies.
Hellstorm Missile — 525 points — An air-to-surface missile which can be scattered into a cluster bomb while falling.
Lightning Strike — 550 points — Launch a coordinated lightning strike on three locations.
Death Machine — 600 points — Your own personal handheld mini-gun.
Sentry Gun — 650 points — An automatic sentry gun which can be remote-controlled.
War Machine — 700 points — Grenade launcher with rapid, semi-automatic firing.
Dragonfire — 725 points — Remote-controlled quad-rotor with lightweight machine gun.
AGR — 800 points — Air drop an autonomous ground robot that searches for and destroys enemies and can be remote controlled.
Stealth Chopper — 850 points — Call in a stealth helicopter which does not appear on the enemy's mini-map.
Orbital VSAT — 900 points — Shows both enemy position and direction on the mini-map, cannot be shot down.
Escort Drone — 1000 points — Get personal air support from an escort drone.
Warthog — 1025 points — Jet aircraft that provides close air support with several strafe runs.
EMP Systems — 1050 points — Temporarily disables enemy electronics.
Lodestar — 1150 points — Lase missile targets remotely from the Lodestar.
VTOL Warship — 1200 points — Be the gunner of a powerful VTOL Warship.
Canine Unit — 1275 points — Attack dogs that hunt down the enemy.
Swarm — 1400 points — Call in a swarm of lethal Hunter Killer drones that search and destroy enemies.