Big day today in print media

[Atreus21]

Over 300 newspapers are going to publish the same anti-Trump editorial today. A dying industry making a proud defiant stand against... something. The same lecture from progressive elites coast to coast. Awesome, in a truly hilarious way.

300+ newspapers publish the same anti-Trump editorial today

Edit: I'm going to add a quote from the article to clarify the nature of the post.

"Today marks another milepost on the funeral march of the American newspaper industry. Has there ever before been such a mass demonstration of self-unawareness as the collective expression of outrage this morning by the editorial boards of these ailing enterprises? Here is the editorial as it appears today in the Boston Globe, which no doubt will receive one or more journalism awards (journalists love to give each other awards for agreeing with each other) for their “courage” – as if howling mobs were outside their doors, and military vans on their way to seize the printing presses.

The editorial, indeed, raises the fear of being shut down right up front, relying on a poll supposedly indicating a public ready to send storm troopers into the nation’s newsrooms. Ginning up polls is a standard operating procedure for the media, who are well aware that by careful wording and sequencing on questions, you can shape the public response into the direction you are hoping for. In this case, Trump-haters are anxious to manufacture a purported threat to shut them down, which is something that nobody in a position of authority has ever even hinted at."

I liked this part:

"And now these same editors and publications will again lecture the country about the dangers and evils of the man they didn't like 646 days ago, who punches back and got elected by millions who didn't read those lectures then, either."

 

[VRAMdemon]

Looks like the Liar In Chief is at it again

This streaming diarrhea of a tweet:

"The Boston Globe, which was sold to the the Failing New York Times for 1.3 BILLION DOLLARS (plus 800 million dollars in losses & investment), or 2.1 BILLION DOLLARS, was then sold by the Times for 1 DOLLAR. Now the Globe is in COLLUSION with other papers on free press. PROVE IT!"

Ok...I'm going to try to translate this:

Obviously the Boston Globe coordinated these news publications to write editorials critical of Trump's attacks on the press and in favor of the free press in general. So that's what he's getting at by accusing them of being in COLLUSION, I think. Now all those numbers about the sale of the Globe and are suppossed to PROVE something. That I don't know

What he fails to inform is the Globe was sold by the Times in 2013...LOL!

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/business/media/new-york-times-company-sells-boston-globe.html

 

[Homerboy]

What he fails to inform is the Globe was sold by the Times in 2013...LOL!

Thanks Obama!

 

[repoman0]

This is the same organization that uncovered systemic sex abuse by Catholic priests. They're also the "enemy of the people" according to Dump. Why do Trumptards want kids to be raped and abused?

 

[jackstar7]

The projections of insecurity of those who fear journalism... it's boggling.

And I found the word for it:
Sophophobia is the fear of knowledge or learning.

 

[jackstar7]

I liked this part:

"And now these same editors and publications will again lecture the country about the dangers and evils of the man they didn't like 646 days ago, who punches back and got elected by millions who didn't read those lectures then, either."

Yeah, the willfully ignorant and anti-intellectual among the populace are very powerful.

That's certainly works for your end-game as a religious zealot.

 

[Amused]

I liked this part:

"And now these same editors and publications will again lecture the country about the dangers and evils of the man they didn't like 646 days ago, who punches back and got elected by millions who didn't read those lectures then, either."

Yes, because tens of thousands of independant reporters and editors are conspiring to lie and Trump is the only one telling the truth.

The conspiratard brain is truly a case study in magical thinking.

Meanwhile, why don't you read the independent protests taking place all over the country, from ultra conservative rural papers to liberal cities, and break free from your cultish conspiracy:


Van Buren County Democrat (Clinton, Arkansas)

"Recently the President of the United States asserted that those engaged in journalism produce 'Fake News' and are - most troubling of all - an 'Enemy of the people.' Obviously we disagree. And, we'd like to think, with equal obviousness you would disagree that this newspaper, this news desk, this single reporter-editor-editorials writer for the local weekly paper would not be one of "those people" who engage in fake news, leave alone be an enemy of the people. This newspaper is, after all, part of the community, part of the team. There's the guy from the paper, at the meeting, the parade, the celebration, the ribbon cutting, the speech, the court, the joy, the sorrow, the lives shared. The guy from the paper, he's one of us. (Go talk to him, he's always up for a conversation.)"

San Jose Mercury News (San Jose, California)

"Journalists are trying to do a job. We're not trying to tear down our nation. We're trying to strengthen it. For we believe in the foundational premise behind the First Amendment -- that our nation is stronger if its people are informed."

The Hartford Courant (Hartford, Connecticut)

"Sitting in court, rushing off to car and plane crashes, listening to grieving families, sifting through masses of government documents. Checking facts, calling people back, checking facts again. Shooting video, taking pictures, tweeting, posting online. Covering sports and music and the joyful parts of life, along with the tragedies...That's the life of your typical journalist — the 'enemy of the American people,' in the words of our self-serving and misguided commander in chief. The enemy? Really?"

Tampa Bay Times (Saint Petersburg, Florida)

"A free press builds the foundation for democracy. Citizens depend on honest, independent media for accurate information they need about their government, their elected leaders and their institutions. That is just as important in Tampa Bay and in communities across the nation as it is in Washington, and the Times takes that responsibility seriously."

The Daily Herald (Arlington Heights, Illinois)

"We could start, of course, with his repeated declaration that the press is the 'enemy of the people,' a characterization he declared in a tweet just last week: 'They (news outlets) purposely cause great division & distrust,' he tweeted on Aug. 5. 'They can also cause War! They are very dangerous & sick!'...We repeat: This is dangerous. It is the language of despots -- Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Chavez, Mao and countless other individuals and organizations who style themselves as the only legitimate representatives for the masses. Is this the company with which a United States president wishes to be associated? Are these the voices United States citizens wish to respect and promote?"

The Des Moines Register (Des Moines, Iowa)

"Reporting on growing federal deficits, climate change, disasters, voting records of lawmakers, government spending, immigration and numerous other important and controversial issues every day is not 'fake news.' Neither is reporting on a county board funneling money to private schools, the impact of Medicaid privatization in Iowa or the effects of tariffs on Iowa farmers and livestock producers, or providing information people need to recover from floods and tornadoes, all covered by Register journalists in recent months."

Topeka Capital-Journal (Topeka, Kansas)

"Not covering him aggressively would be a dereliction of duty. We know that's not always a popular stance, but it doesn't make the press the enemy of anyone. We're not separate from the public. We are the public. We live and work and play in Topeka and surrounding areas. We go to restaurants and send our children to school. We drive the same roads, see the same doctors. We're not the enemy of the people. We are the people."

The Boston Globe (Boston, Massachusetts)

"Trump can't outlaw the press from doing its job here, of course. But the model of inciting his supporters in this regard is how 21st-century authoritarians like Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan operate; you don't need formal censorship to strangle a supply of information. Trump's apologists feebly insist that he is referring only to biased coverage, rather than the entire fourth estate. But the president's own words and long track record show again and again just how deeply cynical and dishonest this argument is."

Swift County Monitor-News (Benson, Minnesota)

"How often is Trump attacking the press by calling it 'fake news' or an 'enemy of the people'? It is approaching 300 times since his inauguration Jan. 20, 2017 -- that is nearly every other day. In doing so, his intent is clear -- destroy the credibility of America's independent press; sow doubt; corrupt faith in the truth tellers. In doing so, stories of infidelities, potential Russian interference in the 2016 election, and his chaotic national and international policies are dismissed as 'fake news.'"

The Falls City Journal (Falls City, Nebraska)

"We put in miles on snow-covered roads and spend long hours on hot summer nights covered in bugs by the ball field to bring you a product we hope you like. We don't do it because we like being away from our homes, we do it because it's a labor of love and pride in our community and its members. What we do is sometimes uncomfortable, grueling and just downright awful, but we do it because our community deserves an honest and good product. Errors are made because of understaffing issues. An error is often an oversight and corrected immediately. An opinion is just that, an opinion. If we print something that someone doesn't agree with that doesn't mean it isn't true."

The Valencia County News-Bulletin (Belen, New Mexico)

"People have been criticizing the press for generations. We are not perfect. But we're striving every day to be a better version of ourselves than we were the day before. That's why we welcome criticism. But unwarranted attacks that undermine your trust in us cannot stand. The problem has become so serious that newspapers across the nation are speaking out against these attacks in one voice today on their editorial pages."

The Chagrin Valley Times (Chagrin Falls, Ohio)

"On any given day, reporters from news organizations like the Chagrin Valley Times are attending public meetings where they listen intently, ask pertinent questions and report back to you with answers. We are there when you cannot attend, so we are your eyes and ears. We go to the most mundane as well as the most emotionally charged public sessions in your communities. We talk to elected officials and other representatives to present all sides of an issue. When expert opinions are needed for clarity, we find them and report back to you."

The Philadelphia Inquirer (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania)

"As the birthplace of our democracy, Philadelphia was also one of the birthplaces of a free press, and the Inquirer, born not long after the country's own birth, proudly continues that legacy."

The Freeman Courier (Freeman, South Dakota)

"Every week there's information about events coming up and events that happened, milestones in people's lives and a look at our community's history. The pages of the Courier also include opinions. You can agree or disagree with the opinions and perspectives shared on the opinion pages and you can respond in writing, if you wish. A community conversation, whether it's about events happening in our community or it's about a position voiced in an editorial, column or letter, is at the heart of how we live and work together. Rhetoric diminishing that process — regardless of where is comes from —should concern every one of us, whether in Freeman, or Sioux Falls, or St. Louis or New York."

The Denton Record-Chronicle (Denton, Texas)

"The role journalists play in serving as our national and local watchdogs is too critical to allow this responsibility to be commandeered. Fact is, we are not the enemy of the people — we are the people. At the Denton Record-Chronicle, our journalists are your neighbors, your fellow commuters, your church congregants. We are impacted by the same policies and tax rates as you, and our stories often are generated out of the same struggles."

The Commons (Brattleboro, Vermont)

"So when our president makes a blanket statement that 'the press is the enemy of the people,' that statement is too broad to mean much of anything. At the same time, it doesn't have to. Those words are just enough to convey to the president's supporters that those of us in the press, any of us, all of us, are not to be trusted, ever. That we are disloyal and damaging. That we need to be reined in and silenced."

 

[fskimospy]

I liked this part:

"And now these same editors and publications will again lecture the country about the dangers and evils of the man they didn't like 646 days ago, who punches back and got elected by millions who didn't read those lectures then, either."

My favorite part was that it was an editorial insanely ranting about how no one reads editorials.

Not the smartest people writing that website.

 

[Amused]

My favorite part was that it was an editorial insanely ranting about how no one reads editorials.

Not the smartest people writing that website.

What did you expect? It's a right-wing cult conspiratard site. It's a small part of the reason why the right-wing has gone full batshit.

 

[Lanyap]

I was surprised at the relatively high percentage of Democrats and Independents that agreed with the questions that were negative towards the press. I was also surprised with the drop in trust since the 1970s.


https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/americans-views-media-2018-08-07
Americans' Views on the Media

Washington, D.C., August 7, 2018 -Even if they are not “fake news” or “the enemy of the people”, it is clear that the reputation of the news media is under siege. According to the General Social Survey, the number of Americans with some or a great deal of trust in the press has dropped 30 percentage points since the late 1970s. Ipsos recently conducted a survey with the American public to better understand how Americans currently view the press and public support for efforts to restrict journalism. While we found that the large majority of Americans support the concept of the 1st Amendment, there are worrying signs that freedom of the press might be conditional to many people.

First off, the good news. The large majority of Americans, 85%, agree that the “Freedom of the press is essential for American democracy.” Additionally, two-thirds (68%) say that “reporters should be protected from pressure from government or big business interests.” Majorities of both Democrats and Republicans agree with these two statements signaling deep support for the concept of freedom of the press.

Some of the limits of public support for freedom of the press are made stark with a quarter of Americans (26%) saying they agree “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior,” including a plurality of Republicans (43%). Likewise, most Americans (72%) think “it should be easier to sue reporters who knowingly publish false information.”

Unanimity starts to break down as we ask more grounded questions. While a plurality – 46% -- agree “most news outlets try their best to produce honest reporting”, there are very stark splits by the partisan identification of the respondent with most Democrats (68%) generally believing in the good intent of journalists, but comparatively few Republicans (29%). And when we ask questions with specific partisan cues, the political split is very wide. For instance, 80% of Republicans but only 23% of Democrats agree that “most news outlets have a liberal bias,” and 79% of Republicans but only 11% of Democrats agree, “the mainstream media treats President Trump unfairly". Returning to President Trump’s views on the press, almost a third of the American people (29%) agree with the idea that “the news media is the enemy of the American people,” including a plurality of Republicans (48%).

A final statistic is somewhat reassuring, only 13% of Americans agree that “President Trump should close down mainstream news outlets, like CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times.” Here less than a quarter of Republicans (23%) agree along with fewer than one in ten Democrats (8%).

About this Study
These are findings from an Ipsos poll conducted August 3-6, 2018. For the survey, a sample of roughly 1,003 adults age 18+ from the continental U.S., Alaska and Hawaii was interviewed online in English. The sample includes 323 Democrats, 363 Republicans, and 207 Independents.

The sample for this study was randomly drawn from Ipsos’ online panel (see link below for more info on “Access Panels and Recruitment”), partner online panel sources, and “river” sampling (see link below for more info on the Ipsos “Ampario Overview” sample method) and does not rely on a population frame in the traditional sense. Ipsos uses fixed sample targets, unique to each study, in drawing a sample. After a sample has been obtained from the Ipsos panel, Ipsos calibrates respondent characteristics to be representative of the U.S. Population using standard procedures such as raking-ratio adjustments. The source of these population targets is U.S. Census 2013 American Community Survey data. The sample drawn for this study reflects fixed sample targets on demographics. Post-hoc weights were made to the population characteristics on gender, age, race/ethnicity, region, and education.

Statistical margins of error are not applicable to online polls. All sample surveys and polls may be subject to other sources of error, including, but not limited to coverage error and measurement error. Where figures do not sum to 100, this is due to the effects of rounding. The precision of Ipsos online polls is measured using a credibility interval. In this case, the poll has a credibility interval of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points for all respondents. Ipsos calculates a design effect (DEFF) for each study based on the variation of the weights, following the formula of Kish (1965). This study had a credibility interval adjusted for design effect of the following (n=1,000, DEFF=1.5, adjusted Confidence Interval=+/-5 percentage points).

The poll also has a credibility interval plus or minus 6.2 percentage points for Democrats, plus or minus 5.9 percentage points for Republicans, and plus or minus 7.8 percentage points for Independents.

For more information about conducting research intended for public release or Ipsos’ online polling methodology, please visit our Public Opinion Polling and Communication page where you can download our brochure, see our public release protocol, or contact us.

 

[Amused]

I was surprised at the relatively high percentage of Democrats and Independents that agreed with the questions that were negative towards the press. I was also surprised with the drop in trust since the 1970s.


https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/americans-views-media-2018-08-07
Americans' Views on the Media

Tell a lie often enough, and people will believe it.

 

[boomerang]

Let's keep this up! Let's keep posting their words instead of letting a strawman post attempt to duhvert from them!!

Go for it! You don't have a hair on your ass if you don't post every single one of them. Get a towel to occasionally wipe the spittle off the keyboard.

Hey, how come in your Omarosa thread you start out accusing Trump of offering to pay her off and then by post #4 you've convinced yourself that he actually did so? That's a rhetorical question because I already know the answer. It's because you're a wack job. Absent the evidence your psyche requires, you fabricate it in your own mind.

You're always very angry and it has to be exhausting for you. Stomping around shaking your fist, howling at the moon, angrily mashing the keys on the keyboard. The meds, they just don't work anymore, do they?

Why don't you take a little vacay to S.A. and help the Goverment throw the white devils off their land? That should get you back into a happy place that should last, oh, all of about two days.

Angry man is angry. Angry man loves his own words and hates the words of others. From here, angry man is starting to look dangerous to himself and others. Angry man might get committed. Angry man is you.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Propaganda parrot is busy today. Bet you get an extra cracker for all your hard work.

Over 300 newspapers are going to publish the same anti-Trump editorial today. A dying industry making a proud defiant stand against... something. The same lecture from progressive elites coast to coast. Awesome, in a truly hilarious way.

300+ newspapers publish the same anti-Trump editorial today

Edit: I'm going to add a quote from the article to clarify the nature of the post.

"Today marks another milepost on the funeral march of the American newspaper industry. Has there ever before been such a mass demonstration of self-unawareness as the collective expression of outrage this morning by the editorial boards of these ailing enterprises? Here is the editorial as it appears today in the Boston Globe, which no doubt will receive one or more journalism awards (journalists love to give each other awards for agreeing with each other) for their “courage” – as if howling mobs were outside their doors, and military vans on their way to seize the printing presses.

The editorial, indeed, raises the fear of being shut down right up front, relying on a poll supposedly indicating a public ready to send storm troopers into the nation’s newsrooms. Ginning up polls is a standard operating procedure for the media, who are well aware that by careful wording and sequencing on questions, you can shape the public response into the direction you are hoping for. In this case, Trump-haters are anxious to manufacture a purported threat to shut them down, which is something that nobody in a position of authority has ever even hinted at."

 

[jackstar7]

Go for it! You don't have a hair on your ass if you don't post every single one of them. Get a towel to occasionally wipe the spittle off the keyboard.

Hey, how come in your Omarosa thread you start out accusing Trump of offering to pay her off and then by post #4 you've convinced yourself that he actually did so? That's a rhetorical question because I already know the answer. It's because you're a wack job. Absent the evidence your psyche requires, you fabricate it in your own mind.

You're always very angry and it has to be exhausting for you. Stomping around shaking your fist, howling at the moon, angrily mashing the keys on the keyboard. The meds, they just don't work anymore, do they?

Why don't you take a little vacay to S.A. and help the Goverment throw the white devils off their land? That should get you back into a happy place that should last, oh, all of about two days.

Angry man is angry. Angry man loves his own words and hates the words of others. From here, angry man is starting to look dangerous to himself and others. Angry man might get committed. Angry man is you.

We're witness to the birth of a new technology:
The projector shield.

 

[Amused]

Go for it! You don't have a hair on your ass if you don't post every single one of them. Get a towel to occasionally wipe the spittle off the keyboard.

Hey, how come in your Omarosa thread you start out accusing Trump of offering to pay her off and then by post #4 you've convinced yourself that he actually did so? That's a rhetorical question because I already know the answer. It's because you're a wack job. Absent the evidence your psyche requires, you fabricate it in your own mind.

You're always very angry and it has to be exhausting for you. Stomping around shaking your fist, howling at the moon, angrily mashing the keys on the keyboard. The meds, they just don't work anymore, do they?

Why don't you take a little vacay to S.A. and help the Goverment throw the white devils off their land? That should get you back into a happy place that should last, oh, all of about two days.

Angry man is angry. Angry man loves his own words and hates the words of others. From here, angry man is starting to look dangerous to himself and others. Angry man might get committed. Angry man is you.

Oh poor baby. Are you upset your OP was shown to be misleading propaganda?

Are you upset that 350 papers around the country have independently written original op-eds against your dear leader?

Poor thang.

 

[esquared]

We're witness to the birth of a new technology:
The projector shield.

Yep, he just became unhinged.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Read "it?" LOL. This literally just proves my point. This is an effort put forth by over 100 papers, it's not a single editorial to read, it's over 100. How ignorant.

It was actually more than 300 rather than 100.

 

[esquared]

It was actually more than 300 rather than 100.

But as cheeto says, it was collusion, right?

 

[Amused]

One of the few papers to endorse Trump joined in on today's protest against his attacks on the free press:

The Topeka Capital-Journal:

The endorsement:

http://www.cjonline.com/opinion/2016-11-05/editorial-trump-right-choice-president

Today's editorial:

http://www.cjonline.com/opinion/20180815/editorial-press-isnt-enemy-of-people

Editorial: Press isn’t ‘enemy of the people’

The refrains are as familiar as they are tiresome.

“Fake news.” “Biased reporting.”

But there’s a new melody now, a new thread added by President Trump.

“Enemy of the people.”

It’s an old phrase, one used all the way back in Roman times, as well as the Soviet Union against dissidents. A form even appeared in Nazi Germany, when Jewish people were called an “enemy of the state.”

“Enemy of the people.”

Journalists are used to being insulted. It comes with the job, with working to report accurately on the ceaseless torrent of happenings that comprise modern life. No one will be happy all the time with what a journalist or news outlet produces.

But being called an enemy — and not of a politician or cause, but of the whole people of a nation — that’s something else entirely.

It’s sinister. It’s destructive. And it must end now.

Our current president attacks hard. He’s proud of it. He holds nothing back, he says, in going against those who threaten him. That worked at one point as a New York real estate developer. But as leader of this country, the public looks at those words differently. For some, that speech becomes so much gospel, a guide to understanding the world.

So if the press is the “enemy of the people,” how do members of the public act?

Do they catcall and threaten journalists? It’s already happened.

Do they support closing news outlets that criticize the president? A recent poll suggests that many do.

Do they take up arms?

Where does this trail of incendiary rhetoric lead?

The news media exists to inform. We come to work every day devoted to a simple cause: Telling you about the events and happenings in Topeka. Our reporters, editors and photographers play a vital role in tracking city and state government.

Are your tax dollars being spent wisely? Are politicians acting honestly? Are neighborhoods and communities safe, and if not, why? These are the questions we work to answer each and every day. Sometimes we get it right, and sometimes we don’t. But we always try.

The president uses the line because he doesn’t like being questioned or investigated. We get it. He doesn’t like negative coverage. We get it. But we have a job to do, and the president plays an outsized role in current events.

Not covering him aggressively would be a dereliction of duty.

We know that’s not always a popular stance, but it doesn’t make the press the enemy of anyone.

We’re not separate from the public. We are the public. We live and work and play in Topeka and surrounding areas. We go to restaurants and send our children to school. We drive the same roads, see the same doctors.

We’re not the enemy of the people. We are the people.

 

[Denly]

OP linked a website call "American Thinker", not sure about the site but it got a great name. If everyone here think like an American instead of red/blue or D/R or white/? this place will be much happier. Shower of thought.

 

[ivwshane]

OP linked a website call "American Thinker", not sure about the site but it got a great name. If everyone here think like an American instead of red/blue or D/R or white/? this place will be much happier. Shower of thought.

Most things righties like have great names or look good, its all for show. The substance however is severely lacking and misleading and that's how righties like it. They like to be spoon fed bullshit because it's quicker than thinking for themselves and it allows them to parrot whatever message they are being brainwashed with.

 

[Victorian Gray]

They're running identical editorials, that's the entire point of the OP.

No, they aren't all running the same editorial.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...press-local-journalism-news-donald-trump.html

 

[Victorian Gray]

Julian Assange is a proven liar and a weapon of the Russian government.

Certainly seems like the case over the past several years.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I was surprised at the relatively high percentage of Democrats and Independents that agreed with the questions that were negative towards the press. I was also surprised with the drop in trust since the 1970s.


https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/americans-views-media-2018-08-07
Americans' Views on the Media

Propaganda works.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

OP linked a website call "American Thinker", not sure about the site but it got a great name. If everyone here think like an American instead of red/blue or D/R or white/? this place will be much happier. Shower of thought.

That site and any kind of thought are mutually exclusive. It’s named ironically. Don’t cite it. Ever. The OP is a lost cause so what can you do.