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If it's proven there was a feedback back loop of Russia --> Assange ---> Trump then yeah. Any thin veil of hiding behind press credentials is removed. Anywhoo I darn near got whiplash from that whatabout redirection.
Assange lost all credibility and impartiality long ago. Wikileaks repeatedly puts out deliberately misleading topics that are directly targeting one side of the political spectrum. When Mueller was appointed they started posting about him taking uranium samples to Russia. They ignored the fact that it was part of a joint operation and agreement to identify the source. They were just pushing the conspiracy along side all the uranium one bullshit.
 

glenn1

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Assange lost all credibility and impartiality long ago. Wikileaks repeatedly puts out deliberately misleading topics that are directly targeting one side of the political spectrum. When Mueller was appointed they started posting about him taking uranium samples to Russia. They ignored the fact that it was part of a joint operation and agreement to identify the source. They were just pushing the conspiracy along side all the uranium one bullshit.

I didn't realize the 1A part about "abridging the freedom of the press" included a caveat that we could extradict and indict journalists for practicing journalism if they "lost all credibility and impartiality long ago."
 

Amused

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Over 300 newspapers are going to publish the same anti-Trump editorial today. A dying industry making a proud defiant stand against... something. The same lecture from progressive elites coast to coast. Awesome, in a truly hilarious way.

300+ newspapers publish the same anti-Trump editorial today

Edit: I'm going to add a quote from the article to clarify the nature of the post.

"Today marks another milepost on the funeral march of the American newspaper industry. Has there ever before been such a mass demonstration of self-unawareness as the collective expression of outrage this morning by the editorial boards of these ailing enterprises? Here is the editorial as it appears today in the Boston Globe, which no doubt will receive one or more journalism awards (journalists love to give each other awards for agreeing with each other) for their “courage” – as if howling mobs were outside their doors, and military vans on their way to seize the printing presses.

The editorial, indeed, raises the fear of being shut down right up front, relying on a poll supposedly indicating a public ready to send storm troopers into the nation’s newsrooms. Ginning up polls is a standard operating procedure for the media, who are well aware that by careful wording and sequencing on questions, you can shape the public response into the direction you are hoping for. In this case, Trump-haters are anxious to manufacture a purported threat to shut them down, which is something that nobody in a position of authority has ever even hinted at."

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This entire post, nay, thread starts with a strawman.

The papers are not printing the SAME editorial. The subject matter may be the same, but the editorials are each their own.

You can't even cover a factual topic without misrepresenting it, can you?

And OMG!!! The press editorializing about freedom! The horror!

You're such a dupe.
 
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cytg111

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Assange lost all credibility and impartiality long ago. Wikileaks repeatedly puts out deliberately misleading topics that are directly targeting one side of the political spectrum. When Mueller was appointed they started posting about him taking uranium samples to Russia. They ignored the fact that it was part of a joint operation and agreement to identify the source. They were just pushing the conspiracy along side all the uranium one bullshit.

French election too... Macrons campaign were hacked by Fancy Bear and again Assange was used as a vector for publication .. IIRC it was sort of a honeypot and much of the data they got away with was dirty and nonfactual. IN YOUR FACE PUTIN.
But yea, Assange is an enemy of the... all of the west. Assange needs to rot in a deep pit somewhere never to see the sun again. POS.
 

cytg111

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I didn't realize the 1A part about "abridging the freedom of the press" included a caveat that we could extradict and indict journalists for practicing journalism if they "lost all credibility and impartiality long ago."
Well now you know. Blablabla. This is geopolitical informational warfare, what you and kin dont realize is that you are at war and what the stakes are (everything)! You are standing on the frontline, bullets zipping by, and arguing civilian law. Head out of butt soldier. Now.
 

glenn1

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Well now you know. Blablabla. This is geopolitical informational warfare, what you and kin dont realize is that you are at war and what the stakes are (everything)! You are standing on the frontline, bullets zipping by, and arguing civilian law. Head out of butt soldier. Now.

Obama assured us that Russia wasn't a threat.

 
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I didn't realize the 1A part about "abridging the freedom of the press" included a caveat that we could extradict and indict journalists for practicing journalism if they "lost all credibility and impartiality long ago."
He's not a journalist. At this point he is an agent of the Russian government by all appearances.

Now can you show me where I said he should be prosecuted? At all?
 

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Obama assured us that Russia wasn't a threat.


Because, shocker, the BIGGEST GEOPOLITICAL THREAT at that time was, if point of fact, Al Qaeda. Russia was not a most favored nation, not by a long shot, but at that time it was FAR from the biggest threat to stability in world politics.

The attacks from Russia started in 2014 by all evidence available. 2014 was ALSO the same year they invaded the Ukraine. Two years after this video.

But sure, keep trying to misrepresent everything.

You do realize a lot can change in 4 years, right?

WTF is wrong with you people? It's like you're incapable of thinking for yourself.
 
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zinfamous

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Yes, because you were a great defender of the 2A, 5A, and other elements of the Bill of Rights when they were under assault and being described as obsolete, or 'dangerous' or whatnot. Even now your side is pretty selective about how you defend or denigrate the 1A, for example you seem to be quite all right with opposing First Amendment rights when it comes to the rich or corporations exercising it.

Tell me when the 2A has ever been under assault.

Jesus Fucking Christ.
 

HomerJS

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How is that Pro-Trump ? Considering it's talking about fake news being spread on social media, I would think that would be a finger point to pro-russians putting up fake articles and spreading them? Doesn't sound very Pro-trump to me?
Just curious...

How do you define "fake news"?
 

cytg111

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Obama assured us that Russia wasn't a threat.


Well Russia hadnt toppled the US government at that point in time had it? It took Trump to do that. Just come clean and tell us you'd rather be a russian than a democrat .. we will leave you alone, I promise.

Besides, whats your fucking point? Cause Obama so fuck you? You realize you be fucking yourself right?
 

boomerang

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This thread has turned out great! We've got several proggies actually admitting that they have projected some words to mean what they felt them to mean and some actions to be not what they are but what actions they fear.

We've even got a poster that feels that Trump is going to exterminate the Jews. (See what I did there?)

It's all about the feels. Can't wait for the proggies to get back in power! I feel, you don't feel, you must feel, I will make you feel.

Ich werde dich fühlen lassen!
 

zinfamous

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Speaking of hahaha, it's funny how each side thinks that authoritarianism is right around the corner when the other party occupies the White House and how it's always the same paranoid BS every time including this one. You might want to try a new line of jokes since this one is extremely stale.

Fortunately for you there's an election in 2020 and you'll have your chance to remove Trump for office, or failing that he'll be out after 2024.

One side comes to this conclusion based on the evidence of observable, documented reality.

The other side comes to their conclusions based on bath salts-inspired fever dreams and the rantings of an online anti-flouridation snake oil salesman.

This is actually true, glenn.
 

hal2kilo

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Nah, when the president says the press is the enemy of the people the time for taking the high road and pretending it isn’t happening is past.

They are completely right that one of the first steps for any autocrat is to disarm the press and it is important for them to make people aware of the danger.
Next you stifle peoples freedom of speech, through intimidation, with the threat of removing their ability to work i.e. summarily revoking clearances. I'm getting close to retirement. I might actually try to get on his list.
 

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This thread has turned out great! We've got several proggies actually admitting that they have projected some words to mean what they felt them to mean and some actions to be not what they are but what actions they fear.

We've even got a poster that feels that Trump is going to exterminate the Jews. (See what I did there?)

It's all about the feels. Can't wait for the proggies to get back in power! I feel, you don't feel, you must feel, I will make you feel.

Ich werde dich fühlen lassen!

Meanwhile, you ignore the strawman OP you produced that utterly misrepresented what the papers are doing today.
 

Amused

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Over 300 newspapers are going to publish the same anti-Trump editorial today.
300+ newspapers publish the same anti-Trump editorial today

This quote, and the link's headline from a ridiculous conspiracy site are demonstrably false.

NO paper published "the same editorial" today. Not a single one. They all editorialized on the same subject matter, but their editorials were ALL original and independent.

Your logical fallacy here is "Straw man." If you had ANY integrity at all, you would edit and retract that.
 

glenn1

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Meanwhile, you ignore the strawman OP you produced that utterly misrepresented what the papers are doing today.

Even bothering to post a thread about it is misrepresentation as something actually newsworthy worth posting about in this forum. And "newspaper employee has an opinion about President and writes about it" could be the example of the antonym of "newsworthy" given in the dictionary.
 

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This thread has turned out great! We've got several proggies actually admitting that they have projected some words to mean what they felt them to mean and some actions to be not what they are but what actions they fear.

We've even got a poster that feels that Trump is going to exterminate the Jews. (See what I did there?)

It's all about the feels. Can't wait for the proggies to get back in power! I feel, you don't feel, you must feel, I will make you feel.

Ich werde dich fühlen lassen!
More like this is all about your feels. Please show us where the fake news touched you.
 
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Even bothering to post a thread about it is misrepresentation as something actually newsworthy worth posting about in this forum. And "newspaper employee has an opinion about President and writes about it" could be the example of the antonym of "newsworthy" given in the dictionary.

Actually, the free press joining together to protest the actions of a government leader who threatens them by declaring them "the enemy of the people" is quite newsworthy indeed.

It's not anyone else's fault you're incapable of seeing the significance of that.
 
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I will now make this post about the editorials themselves.

Here is one from The Valencia County News Bulletin:

http://www.news-bulletin.com/opinio...cle_db203ace-a0b6-11e8-a92c-1fa65352a2a2.html


We are not the enemy; We are the people

We’ve been complacent.

We thought everybody knew how important a free press was to our world and that all this talk about us being the enemy of the people would be dismissed for the silliness that it is.

But the reckless attacks have continued, instigated and encouraged by our president.


When the leader of the free world works to erode the public’s trust in the media, the potential for damage is enormous, both here and abroad. We once set an example of free and open government for the world to follow. Now those who seek to suppress the free flow of information are doing so with impunity.

The time has come for us to stand up to the bullying. The role journalism plays in our free society is too crucial to allow this degradation to continue.

We aren’t the enemy of the people. We are the people. We aren’t fake news. We are your news and we struggle night and day to get the facts right.

On bitter cold January nights, we’re the people’s eyes and ears at city, town, village and school board meetings. We tell the stories of our communities, from the fun of a county fair to the despair a family faces when a loved one is killed.

We are always by your side. We shop the same stores, attend the same churches and hike the same trails. We struggle with daycare and worry about paying for retirement.

In our work as journalists, our first loyalty is to you. Our work is guided by a set of principles that demand objectivity, independence, open-mindedness and the pursuit of the truth. We make mistakes, we know. There’s nothing we hate more than errors but we acknowledge them, correct them and learn from them.

Our work is a labor of love because we love our country and believe we are playing a vital role in our democracy. Self-governance demands that our citizens need to be well-informed and that’s what we’re here to do.


We go beyond the government-issued press release or briefing and ask tough questions. We hold people in power accountable for their actions. Some think we’re rude to question and challenge. We know it’s our obligation.

People have been criticizing the press for generations. We are not perfect. But we’re striving every day to be a better version of ourselves than we were the day before.

That’s why we welcome criticism. But unwarranted attacks that undermine your trust in us cannot stand. The problem has become so serious that newspapers across the nation are speaking out against these attacks in one voice today on their editorial pages.

As women’s rights pioneer and investigative journalist Ida B. Wells wrote in 1892: “The people must know before they can act and there is no educator to compare with the press.”
 
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The Athens Ohio paper:

https://www.athensnews.com/opinion/...cle_76dd5d30-a0a7-11e8-913e-abe3e2d6d4c8.html

In attacking journalists, Trump damages all Americans

Editor’s note: The Athens NEWS is participating in a national campaign spearheaded by The Boston Globe to respond forcefully to President Donald Trump’s continued attacks on the free press, including his recent characterization of journalists as “real enemies of the people.” We are among 350-plus newspapers across the country (as of Wednesday morning) that are running editorials and columns today, Aug. 16, countering the president’s attacks on the press. Go to the Globe website for links to all the papers writing editorials as part of this project. TS

When the president attacks and demonizes the news media, calling them “the real enemy of the American people” and their output “fake news,” please don’t dismiss this as just another in a steady stream of Trump outrages, in the air briefly until his next crazy-angry tweet.

Trump’s long-time campaign to undermine and marginalize journalists, ramped up in recent weeks, appears wholly self-serving on the president’s part. From his point of view, the obvious way to deflect and defuse negative reports is to discredit the reporter and/or the news outlet he or she works for. It’s doubtful that he gives a fig about whether his attacks pose a danger to democracy or transparent government. As with everything else with this president, it’s all about him.


Yet, the consequences of the president continually attacking journalists and the free press easily transcend his personal issues or the daily news cycle. Our democracy is endangered when citizens are persuaded to reject or ignore the professionals who provide news and information, and whose mission is to keep government and other institutions accountable.

Back up and recall the role of independent journalists in a democratic society. You should have learned this in civics class. Journalists – whether working for newspapers, magazines, broadcast outlets or websites – are the eyes and ears of a free society. They provide citizens with the intel necessary to make informed, responsible decisions at the ballot box and beyond. They strive to keep their local, state and national governments honest.

In totalitarian regimes, newspapers are closed, journalists are jailed, and the state provides its own version of “news.” Citizens without accurate information are disempowered, weakened, blind. If a man doesn’t know what the weather is like outside, he won’t know how to dress. If a citizen doesn’t know what her government is doing, or what’s going on in the wider world outside state or national borders, she lacks the information to make practical, responsible decisions about important issues, career, money and family.

Fortunately, we don’t live in a totalitarian state. We live in a modern democratic republic (albeit one that’s increasingly dysfunctional). But that doesn’t mean the president’s persistent attacks on the news media are harmless.

If you can make citizens believe that journalists can’t be trusted, that established mainstream media outlets are hopelessly biased, you accomplish the same thing as censorship, arrests, closures. A discredited journalist or news outlet no longer has the authority or ability to inform the public. They may as well be locked away in an underground prison cell.


Likewise, the foundation of the American free press, this absolutely essential pillar of our democracy, crumbles and quakes when the president of the United States succeeds in poisoning the minds of a vast slice of the American public with his relentless attacks on journalists and the verified truths they report.

And it does have a trickle-down effect. Increasingly when a local public figure or candidate responds to a critical news report, rather than an old-fashioned explanation or denial, he or she will go immediately on the attack, calling the reporting “fake news” and suggesting the journalist is an incompetent liar with an ax to grind. In recent years, we’ve also seen political candidates boycott the media, something that was rare until a few years ago. That suggests these candidates (one of them our state senator during his campaign two years ago) have calculated that cutting out local news media that they perceive to be unsympathetic won’t hurt them. That wouldn’t have happened five, 10, 20 or 30 years ago.

This is terribly galling for the hundreds of thousands of journalists who do their jobs far away from the national stage. They work long and hard for not much pay, without many resources. So why do they (we) do it? Many of us, maybe most of us, fell in love with journalism because it’s a pursuit for truth and justice. Good reporting often succeeds in righting wrongs and making things better for people. More than anything, it engages citizens in civic and public affairs, and an actively engaged public is just as vital to our democracy as the free press.

It’s laughable and offensive, this idea that someone would choose a profession where they start out at peanut wages, and eventually climb into a mixed-nut salary range, all so they can serve as somebody’s shill or stooge, becoming a sell-out to sling PR for a political party or ideology.

This isn’t intended as a backhanded slap against the well-rewarded national journalists who draw so much of Trump’s criticism. They are drawn to negative coverage of the president the way a fire department speeds to an actual fire. The reality of a Trump-averse national press didn’t precede the president; it rumbled into action the minute the president started telling lies, hiring corrupt cabinet members, demeaning his own justice department, obstructing efforts to find the truth about his finances and Russian interference, making racist statements, inciting hatred against immigrants, and well, the list just keeps growing.


Ironically, this president, with his mantra of “fake news,” through a willful refusal to counter ongoing Russia efforts to sow discord on social media and interfere in the 2018 elections, is ensuring that Russian-instigated fabricated news reports and social-media posts will contaminate the media milieu right up until Nov. 6. While slinging the “fake news” slam directly at the mainstream media, Trump’s inaction on the counter-intelligence front is ensuring that the real thing – Russian-generated fake news specifically designed to divide Americans and influence the midterm elections – can slip in through the back door.

The journalists at the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Forbes, and most of the cable and main networks are doing immensely important work, every bit as crucial as Woodward and Bernstein during Watergate in the early ’70s. When they get something wrong, everybody knows about it.

When the president calls them, and by extension all of us, “the real enemies of the people,” his goal may simply be to save his own hide. But the damage he does to truth and a free press – essential safeguards of American democracy – will take a long time to repair.

Please don’t let him get away with it.

Continue to be a careful consumer of news. Don’t believe everything you read. Find corroborating reports on stories that intrigue or trouble you. But don’t treat your news like a fan boy with the sports pages, preparing to like anything that’s positive about your team, and dismiss anything that’s negative. You’re a presumably educated adult citizen of the USA, and ought to behave that way.
 

BurnItDwn

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Is Trump's anti-newspaper stance due to his illiteracy? Doesn't he have a handler that can read to him every night?

In any case, I know he is just a puppet as hopefully we all do.
 

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Minnesota's Swift County Monitor News

http://www.swiftcountymonitor.com/articles/2018/08/15/attacks-journalists-will-lead-violence

Attacks On Journalists Will Lead To Violence

It was Feb. 17, 2017, less than a month after President Donald Trump was sworn into office and had taken an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States that he began calling the nation’s press “the enemy of the people.”

In a Tweet he said, “The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @abc, @cbs, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!”

That Tweet was preceded by an extended blasting of journalists at a news conference Feb. 16, 2017. “The press has become so dishonest that if we don’t talk about it, we are doing a tremendous disservice to the American people.” Both Republicans and Democrats immediately chastised Trump for his attacks.

“When you look at history, the first thing that dictators do is shut down the press,” Republican Arizona U.S. Sen. John McCain said to Meet the Press host Chuck Todd Feb. 19, 2017. “And I’m not saying that President Trump is trying to be a dictator. I’m just saying we need to learn the lessons of history.”

Brutal dictators of the past, Russia’s Stalin, Germany’s Hitler, and Venezuela’s Chavez have called the press the enemy of the people. Today’s thugs and strongmen use similar words - Syria’s President Bashar Assad and the Philippines’ President Rodrigo Duterte – as they kill thousands of their own citizens.

McCain doesn’t always like the press. Still, he said, “If you want to preserve - I’m very serious now - if you want to preserve democracy as we know it, you have to have a free and many times adversarial press.”

Despite criticism and words of caution, Trump’s assault on the press hasn’t eased. If anything, it is ramping up creating an atmosphere of hate, anger and potential violence against reporters.

At a rally in Pennsylvania, Aug. 2, he singled out the men and women of the press. Pointing his finger at the television and newspaper reporters covering the event he called their organizations the “fake, fake, disgusting news” and called the reporters “horrible, horrendous people.” His animosity incites his crowds to turn on the press with angry words, profane gestures and threats of harm.

Earlier the same day, the United Nations released a statement saying, “We are especially concerned that these attacks increase the risk of journalists being targeted with violence.”

It went on to say his attacks were “strategic, designed to undermine confidence in reporting and raise doubts about verifiable facts. These attacks run counter to the country’s obligations to respect press freedom and international human rights law.”

Worries about violence are genuine. “I hope you get raped and killed,” MSNBC’s Katy Tur said a person wrote to her. “Raped and killed. Not just me, but a couple of my female colleagues as well.”

This past April Reporters Without Borders, an international organization that looks out for the safety and interests of journalists, dropped America’s ranking based on Trump’s incessant attacks.

How often is Trump attacking the press by calling it “fake news” or an “enemy of the people”? It is approaching 300 times since his inauguration Jan. 20, 2017 – that is nearly every other day. In doing so, his intent is clear – destroy the credibility of America’s independent press; sow doubt; corrupt faith in the truth tellers. In doing so, stories of infidelities, potential Russian interference in the 2016 election, and his chaotic national and international policies are dismissed as “fake news.”

The rising danger Trump’s words pose to reporters have some members of Congress proposing laws to protect them.

“President Donald Trump’s campaign and administration have created a toxic atmosphere,” California U.S. Rep. Eric Swalwell said in February as he introduced the Journalist Protection Act. “It’s not just about labeling reports of his constant falsehoods as #FakeNews – it’s his casting of media personalities and outlets as anti-American targets, and encouraging people to engage in violence.”

In a floor speech earlier this year, Arizona Republican U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake addressed Trump’s continued slurs against the nation’s press.

“Mr. President, it is a testament to the condition of our democracy that our own president uses words infamously spoken by Josef Stalin to describe his enemies. It bears noting that so fraught with malice was the phrase ‘enemy of the people,’ that even Nikita Khrushchev forbade its use, telling the Soviet Communist Party that the phrase had been introduced by Stalin for the purpose of ‘annihilating such individuals’ who disagreed with the supreme leader.”

“… And, of course, the president has it precisely backward - despotism is the enemy of the people. The free press is the despot’s enemy, which makes the free press the guardian of democracy.”

We live in a less civil society today with people viciously attacking each other through social media and in the online comment sections of news organizations.

We live in a time when people can’t tell real news from fake news on the internet. They are easily misled, fooled by Russians posting information that incites hatreds and inflames passions in efforts to affect our elections. We live in a “post-truth” world where facts that challenge our beliefs are dismissed.

We also live in a time when a trusted press is essential to ensuring an informed electorate has the honest reporting it needs to make decisions in the voting booth.

“When you work at The Wall Street Journal, the coins of the realm are truth and trust — the latter flowing exclusively from the former. When you read a story in the Journal, you do so with the assurance that immense reportorial and editorial effort has been expended to ensure that what you read is factual,” former Journal columnist Bret Stephens wrote in response to Trump’s attacks.

“Not probably factual. Not partially factual. Not alternatively factual. I mean fundamentally, comprehensively and exclusively factual. And therefore trustworthy.” Stephens now writes for The New York Times.

That very same rigor applies to news organizations large and small across the nation. We strive to do our best, often with limited resources, to inform our readers with accurate, unbiased information. We shouldn’t have to fear for the lives of journalists doing their jobs – not in America!
 

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I will now make this post about the editorials themselves.

Here is one from The Valencia County News Bulletin:

http://www.news-bulletin.com/opinio...cle_db203ace-a0b6-11e8-a92c-1fa65352a2a2.html


We are not the enemy; We are the people

We’ve been complacent.

We thought everybody knew how important a free press was to our world and that all this talk about us being the enemy of the people would be dismissed for the silliness that it is.

But the reckless attacks have continued, instigated and encouraged by our president.


When the leader of the free world works to erode the public’s trust in the media, the potential for damage is enormous, both here and abroad. We once set an example of free and open government for the world to follow. Now those who seek to suppress the free flow of information are doing so with impunity.

The time has come for us to stand up to the bullying. The role journalism plays in our free society is too crucial to allow this degradation to continue.

We aren’t the enemy of the people. We are the people. We aren’t fake news. We are your news and we struggle night and day to get the facts right.

On bitter cold January nights, we’re the people’s eyes and ears at city, town, village and school board meetings. We tell the stories of our communities, from the fun of a county fair to the despair a family faces when a loved one is killed.

We are always by your side. We shop the same stores, attend the same churches and hike the same trails. We struggle with daycare and worry about paying for retirement.

In our work as journalists, our first loyalty is to you. Our work is guided by a set of principles that demand objectivity, independence, open-mindedness and the pursuit of the truth. We make mistakes, we know. There’s nothing we hate more than errors but we acknowledge them, correct them and learn from them.

Our work is a labor of love because we love our country and believe we are playing a vital role in our democracy. Self-governance demands that our citizens need to be well-informed and that’s what we’re here to do.


We go beyond the government-issued press release or briefing and ask tough questions. We hold people in power accountable for their actions. Some think we’re rude to question and challenge. We know it’s our obligation.

People have been criticizing the press for generations. We are not perfect. But we’re striving every day to be a better version of ourselves than we were the day before.

That’s why we welcome criticism. But unwarranted attacks that undermine your trust in us cannot stand. The problem has become so serious that newspapers across the nation are speaking out against these attacks in one voice today on their editorial pages.

As women’s rights pioneer and investigative journalist Ida B. Wells wrote in 1892: “The people must know before they can act and there is no educator to compare with the press.”

Here’s the one from the Boston Globe

Journalists are not the enemy

A central pillar of President Trump’s politics is a sustained assault on the free press. Journalists are not classified as fellow Americans, but rather “the enemy of the people.” This relentless assault on the free press has dangerous consequences. We asked editorial boards from around the country – liberal and conservative, large and small – to join us today to address this fundamental threat in their own words.

Replacing a free media with a state-run media has always been a first order of business for any corrupt regime taking over a country. Today in the United States we have a president who has created a mantra that members of the media who do not blatantly support the policies of the current US administration are the “enemy of the people.” This is one of the many lies that have been thrown out by this president, much like an old-time charlatan threw out “magic” dust or water on a hopeful crowd.

For more than two centuries, this foundational American principle has protected journalists at home and served as a model for free nations abroad. Today it is under serious threat. And it sends an alarming signal to despots from Ankara to Moscow, Beijing to Baghdad, that journalists can be treated as a domestic enemy.

The press is necessary to a free society because it does not implicitly trust leaders — from the local planning board to the White House. And it’s not a coincidence that this president — whose financial affairs are murky and whose suspicious pattern of behavior triggered his own Justice Department to appoint an independent counsel to investigate him — has tried so hard to intimidate journalists who provide independent scrutiny.

There was once broad, bipartisan, intergenerational agreement in the United States that the press played this important role. Yet that view is no longer shared by many Americans. “The news media is the enemy of the American people,” is a sentiment endorsed by 48 percent of Republicans surveyed this month by Ipsos polling firm. That poll is not an outlier. One published this week found 51 percent of Republicans considered the press “the enemy of the people rather than an important part of democracy.”

Trump’s attack feedback loop helps explain why his faithful are following him into undemocratic territory. More than a quarter of Americans now say that “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior,” including 43 percent of Republicans. Thirteen percent of those surveyed thought that “President Trump should close down mainstream news outlets, like CNN, The Washington Post and The New York Times.”

Trump can’t outlaw the press from doing its job here, of course. But the model of inciting his supporters in this regard is how 21st-century authoritarians like Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan operate; you don’t need formal censorship to strangle a supply of information.

Trump’s apologists feebly insist that he is referring only to biased coverage, rather than the entire fourth estate. But the president’s own words and long track record show again and again just how deeply cynical and dishonest this argument is.

The nation’s Founding Fathers took for granted that the press would be biased and yet they still explicitly enshrined the freedom of journalists and publishers in the Constitution. “Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost,” wrote Thomas Jefferson.

American politicians of all parties since the Founders have groused about the media, trying to work the refs by arguing that the news is biased against their tribe. But there was always respect for the press as an institution. It was not that long ago that Ronald Reagan proclaimed, “Our tradition of a free press as a vital part of our democracy is as important as ever.”

“The press was to serve the governed, not the governors,” Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black wrote in 1971. Would that it were still the case. Today, the only media that Trump’s movement accepts as legitimate are those that unquestioningly advocate for its leader personally.

Indeed, it is not just that the president is stoking domestic division for political and personal gain, he’s asking his audiences to follow him into Fantasia. “Just stick with us, don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news,” he told an audience in Kansas last month. “Just remember, what you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.” George Orwell put it more gracefully in his novel “1984.” “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

It is an essential endpoint to Trump’s deluge of dishonesty that he now contests objective reality and urges his supporters to do the same. In the first 558 days of his presidency, Trump made 4,229 false or misleading claims, according to a list compiled by The Washington Post. Yet among Trump supporters, only 17 percent think that the administration regularly makes false claims. “Alternative facts” have become de facto.

Lies are antithetical to an informed citizenry, responsible for self-governance. The greatness of America is dependent on the role of a free press to speak the truth to the powerful. To label the press “the enemy of the people” is as un-American as it is dangerous to the civic compact we have shared for more than two centuries.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...5/editorial/Kt0NFFonrxqBI6NqqennvL/story.html

No wonder Dotus was so upset about the Boston Globe this morning.
 

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I will now make this post about the editorials themselves.

Here is one from The Valencia County News Bulletin:

http://www.news-bulletin.com/opinio...cle_db203ace-a0b6-11e8-a92c-1fa65352a2a2.html


We are not the enemy; We are the people

We’ve been complacent.

We thought everybody knew how important a free press was to our world and that all this talk about us being the enemy of the people would be dismissed for the silliness that it is.

But the reckless attacks have continued, instigated and encouraged by our president.


When the leader of the free world works to erode the public’s trust in the media, the potential for damage is enormous, both here and abroad. We once set an example of free and open government for the world to follow. Now those who seek to suppress the free flow of information are doing so with impunity.

The time has come for us to stand up to the bullying. The role journalism plays in our free society is too crucial to allow this degradation to continue.

We aren’t the enemy of the people. We are the people. We aren’t fake news. We are your news and we struggle night and day to get the facts right.

On bitter cold January nights, we’re the people’s eyes and ears at city, town, village and school board meetings. We tell the stories of our communities, from the fun of a county fair to the despair a family faces when a loved one is killed.

We are always by your side. We shop the same stores, attend the same churches and hike the same trails. We struggle with daycare and worry about paying for retirement.

In our work as journalists, our first loyalty is to you. Our work is guided by a set of principles that demand objectivity, independence, open-mindedness and the pursuit of the truth. We make mistakes, we know. There’s nothing we hate more than errors but we acknowledge them, correct them and learn from them.

Our work is a labor of love because we love our country and believe we are playing a vital role in our democracy. Self-governance demands that our citizens need to be well-informed and that’s what we’re here to do.


We go beyond the government-issued press release or briefing and ask tough questions. We hold people in power accountable for their actions. Some think we’re rude to question and challenge. We know it’s our obligation.

People have been criticizing the press for generations. We are not perfect. But we’re striving every day to be a better version of ourselves than we were the day before.

That’s why we welcome criticism. But unwarranted attacks that undermine your trust in us cannot stand. The problem has become so serious that newspapers across the nation are speaking out against these attacks in one voice today on their editorial pages.

As women’s rights pioneer and investigative journalist Ida B. Wells wrote in 1892: “The people must know before they can act and there is no educator to compare with the press.”

How cute, maybe we can lay off one less dead tree newspaper worker today to celebrate their success. Or maybe we can "hire" another AI reporter to do their job.

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/robots-wrote-this-story/

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