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Every weapon has pros and cons. Be aware that laws vary WIDELY from place to place, so you should check anything out with local PD.

Knife is useless outside of melee, so if the opponent has anything with range he wins. It can only be used as deadly force, therefore is seldom allowed by law. It requires EXTENSIVE training to be any good. It can be taken and used against you with lethal results.

Chem sprays have some small range, and can be used for other than lethal results (allowing their use more often). However it takes a little training, you'll hit yourself as well (guaranteed), and not everyone is equally affected by them (or sometimes at all).

Every other weapon or combat option has similar pros and cons.
 

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Every weapon has pros and cons. Be aware that laws vary WIDELY from place to place, so you should check anything out with local PD.

Knife is useless outside of melee, so if the opponent has anything with range he wins. It can only be used as deadly force, therefore is seldom allowed by law. It requires EXTENSIVE training to be any good. It can be taken and used against you with lethal results.

Chem sprays have some small range, and can be used for other than lethal results (allowing their use more often). However it takes a little training, you'll hit yourself as well (guaranteed), and not everyone is equally affected by them (or sometimes at all).

Every other weapon or combat option has similar pros and cons.

How do wands rate?
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Every weapon has pros and cons. Be aware that laws vary WIDELY from place to place, so you should check anything out with local PD.

Knife is useless outside of melee, so if the opponent has anything with range he wins. It can only be used as deadly force, therefore is seldom allowed by law. It requires EXTENSIVE training to be any good. It can be taken and used against you with lethal results.

Chem sprays have some small range, and can be used for other than lethal results (allowing their use more often). However it takes a little training, you'll hit yourself as well (guaranteed), and not everyone is equally affected by them (or sometimes at all).

Every other weapon or combat option has similar pros and cons.

Uhhhhhh, IIRC almost every state allows you to carry some sort of knife. Switchblades are universally banned, but beyond that laws vary from state to state. In VA I could carry a 6" combat knife legally without a permit.

Delaware on the other hand only allows 3" folders.


Also, if you get a folder for defense, look for one with spring-assist. Meaning you have to open the blade 30 degrees before the spring takes over. They're technically not switchblades/automatic knives, but they're just as effective. Obviously fixed is best for defense, but it's hard to conceal unless you have a thick jacket.

In any case, get some training if you're going to use a knife. Otherwise you'll probably just end up cutting/stabbing yourself in the heat of the moment when you can't afford to think about what you're doing.
 
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Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Every weapon has pros and cons. Be aware that laws vary WIDELY from place to place, so you should check anything out with local PD.

Knife is useless outside of melee, so if the opponent has anything with range he wins. It can only be used as deadly force, therefore is seldom allowed by law. It requires EXTENSIVE training to be any good. It can be taken and used against you with lethal results.

Chem sprays have some small range, and can be used for other than lethal results (allowing their use more often). However it takes a little training, you'll hit yourself as well (guaranteed), and not everyone is equally affected by them (or sometimes at all).

Every other weapon or combat option has similar pros and cons.

How do wands rate?

Well, being the prince of them I have an unfair innate advantage.
 

antyler

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Man i dont think youre a pussy for being afraid of the city. Better safe than sorry I say. I say carry some pepper spray, and a regular ole run o the mill big 5 pocket knife. I carry a pocket knife most of the time, and I dont even live in a "big city" type setting. Also with pepper spray, I would say you cant go wrong. Very effective, and cheap, and completely legal. Use that first if you have to do anything.
 
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Clearly you'll need an arsenal. Get nunchucks, a chainsaw and a bamboo cane for melee combat. Have a claymore and halberd with you for more midrange stuff, and be sure to travel with a 24 foot trebuchet for ranged combat. Shurikens make good projectiles, and there's no beating antipersonnel mines for setting booby traps. It would also be adviseable to get a pet that can come to your assistance when needed. I recommend a tiger (you may want to investigate local permit requirements on keeping a tiger for personal defense purposes).
 
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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: Deeko
Something to block out the stench from your vagina...you really that scared of the city?

Troof

OP, you seriously need to relax. If stats are your thing, you should look them up for violent crumes committed per capita. You're not in danger!

Spoken like a true blue.
Just because your chances of being attacked are low does not mean they are 0. Why do you have home owners insurance or automobile insurance or health insurance?

Shit do you look both way before crossing the street even if you can't hear traffic? Your kind of thinking is what gets people killed.
 
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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
OP, you seriously need to relax. If stats are your thing, you should look them up for violent crumes committed per capita. You're not in danger!

Spoken like a true blue.
Just because you're chances of being attacked are low does not mean they are 0. Why do you have home owners insurance or automobile insurance or health insurance?

Shit do you look both way before crossing the street even if you can't hear traffic? Your kind of thinking is what gets people killed.

Actually, if everyone thought like jjzelinski, there'd be no attacks at all. I'd hate to live in such a state of paranoia that I was afraid to leave my house without arming myself. What is this, the dark ages?

-EDIT- And I've got to say, your name is quite ironic. You're being very un-Dude right now. Unless you're the Lebowski who lost his legs to a Chinaman, in which case you're a thieving duplicitous bastard...
 
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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: skyking
Your brain. Use it and you will not need other weapons; get cocky/lax/tunnel vision and you will get your ass handed to you.

hahahahhahahah yeah..sure that will work.

while yes actually paying fucking attention to what is going on around you and not putting yourself in situations is going to cut down the odds anything happening. it is not going to stop it.

You live in a fantasy world where you expect the unlikely to occur.

You live in the fantasy world where you don't think anything bad ever happens.
I've been attacked while at work, and that was in one of the high income areas of Dallas. It can happen and you're delusional if you think it can't just because you live where there are no people of color. You think your safe because you live in yuppieville and all the places you go people drive Lexus's and Mercedes.

Go live in the real world where some asshole will kill you for the $20 in your wallet, because THAT'S the kind of people you need to be prepared for.
 

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: Deeko
Something to block out the stench from your vagina...you really that scared of the city?

Troof

OP, you seriously need to relax. If stats are your thing, you should look them up for violent crumes committed per capita. You're not in danger!

Spoken like a true blue.
Just because you're chances of being attacked are low does not mean they are 0. Why do you have home owners insurance or automobile insurance or health insurance?

Shit do you look both way before crossing the street even if you can't hear traffic? Your kind of thinking is what gets people killed.

That's dumb. Do you know how many times a city dweller hits the streets? A whole lot. I'm not carrying a gun around with me everywhere I go for the EXTREMELY unlikely chance I get mugged. Most murders in the city are drug or gang related, not a result of being mugged or something that you have a gun on you on the streets is going to help.

Plus, this isn't the movies. If a guy steps out of the shadows and puts a gun to your head, chances are you're gonna wind up dead if you try to pull your gun on him. Give him your wallet and call the cops, that's a lot safer than trying to shoot him.

Throw that "true blue" crap out, I'm not anti gun, I'm just saying that having a gun on you while you walk the city streets is not going to raise your life expectancy.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: skyking
Your brain. Use it and you will not need other weapons; get cocky/lax/tunnel vision and you will get your ass handed to you.

hahahahhahahah yeah..sure that will work.

while yes actually paying fucking attention to what is going on around you and not putting yourself in situations is going to cut down the odds anything happening. it is not going to stop it.

Nevertheless, awareness and attitude are your MOST effective weapons, bar none.

It's like driving defensively, situational awareness will keep you out of ALL but the most unlikely situations (mass ninja parachute drop, etc.)

And your attitude helps, too: confident but never cocky or agressive. Treat everyone you meet with basic respect.

 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: skyking
Your brain. Use it and you will not need other weapons; get cocky/lax/tunnel vision and you will get your ass handed to you.

hahahahhahahah yeah..sure that will work.

while yes actually paying fucking attention to what is going on around you and not putting yourself in situations is going to cut down the odds anything happening. it is not going to stop it.

Nevertheless, awareness and attitude are your MOST effective weapons, bar none.

It's like driving defensively, situational awareness will keep you out of ALL but the most unlikely situations (mass ninja parachute drop, etc.)

And your attitude helps, too: confident but never cocky or agressive. Treat everyone you meet with basic respect.

Yep. It's simple. Avoid places you know are trouble. When you pass people on the streets, look them in the eye and acknowledge their presence. Walk confidently. The person staring at the ground or constantly looking around with their hands in their pockets is the person that's getting mugged.
 
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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: Deeko
Something to block out the stench from your vagina...you really that scared of the city?

Troof

OP, you seriously need to relax. If stats are your thing, you should look them up for violent crumes committed per capita. You're not in danger!

Spoken like a true blue.
Just because you're chances of being attacked are low does not mean they are 0. Why do you have home owners insurance or automobile insurance or health insurance?

Shit do you look both way before crossing the street even if you can't hear traffic? Your kind of thinking is what gets people killed.

That's dumb. Do you know how many times a city dweller hits the streets? A whole lot. I'm not carrying a gun around with me everywhere I go for the EXTREMELY unlikely chance I get mugged. Most murders in the city are drug or gang related, not a result of being mugged or something that you have a gun on you on the streets is going to help.

Plus, this isn't the movies. If a guy steps out of the shadows and puts a gun to your head, chances are you're gonna wind up dead if you try to pull your gun on him.

Throw that "true blue" crap out, I'm not anti gun, I'm just saying that having a gun on you while you walk the city streets is not going to raise your life expectancy.
You're full of shit if you think being prepared and ready to protect yourself is a waste of time. By your description of things you have never been to a truly bad part of town. Go take a stroll down MLK Blvd or Malcolm X Blvd in South Dallas. If you look like your avatar you're going to get:
A. Robbed
B. Your ass beat down
C. Killed.

Where I work now employees a large number of people for the not so nice areas of Dallas and they wonder why the # of cars getting broken into or stolen has sky rocketed and why the general crime rate of the area went up.
Dallas that even the beat cops won't go unless SWAT is with them.


Random acts of violence
Watch the video and learn These people are real folks. Believe it or not, there are people out there that do not care about you, your life or your family. They do not live in the happy go lucky candy coated world you live in and they WILL kill you given the opportunity.

 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: skyking
Your brain. Use it and you will not need other weapons; get cocky/lax/tunnel vision and you will get your ass handed to you.

hahahahhahahah yeah..sure that will work.

while yes actually paying fucking attention to what is going on around you and not putting yourself in situations is going to cut down the odds anything happening. it is not going to stop it.

Nevertheless, awareness and attitude are your MOST effective weapons, bar none.

It's like driving defensively, situational awareness will keep you out of ALL but the most unlikely situations (mass ninja parachute drop, etc.)

And your attitude helps, too: confident but never cocky or agressive. Treat everyone you meet with basic respect.

Yep. It's simple. Avoid places you know are trouble. When you pass people on the streets, look them in the eye and acknowledge their presence. Walk confidently. The person staring at the ground or constantly looking around with their hands in their pockets is the person that's getting mugged.

Way true! :thumbsup:

 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Deeko

That's dumb. Do you know how many times a city dweller hits the streets? A whole lot. I'm not carrying a gun around with me everywhere I go for the EXTREMELY unlikely chance I get mugged. Most murders in the city are drug or gang related, not a result of being mugged or something that you have a gun on you on the streets is going to help.

Plus, this isn't the movies. If a guy steps out of the shadows and puts a gun to your head, chances are you're gonna wind up dead if you try to pull your gun on him.

Throw that "true blue" crap out, I'm not anti gun, I'm just saying that having a gun on you while you walk the city streets is not going to raise your life expectancy.
You're full of shit if you think being prepared and ready to protect yourself is a waste of time. By your description of things you have never been to a truly bad part of town. Go take a stroll down MLK Blvd or Malcolm X Blvd in South Dallas. If you look like your avatar you're going to get:
A. Robbed
B. Your ass beat down
C. Killed.

Where I work now employees a large number of people for the not so nice areas of Dallas and they wonder why the # of cars getting broken into or stolen has sky rocketed and why the general crime rate of the area went up.
Dallas that even the beat cops won't go unless SWAT is with them.


Random acts of violence
Watch the video and learn These people are real folks. Believe it or not, there are people out there that do not care about you, your life or your family. They do not live in the happy go lucky candy coated world you live in and they WILL kill you given the opportunity.

Try reading the thread. I lived for 5 years on the border of one of the worst neighborhoods of Philadelphia. Last time I checked, Philly doesn't have a reputation of being a cupcake town. I grew up just outside of a small city with among the highest per capita murder rates in the nation. Don't tell me I've never been to a rough neighborhood. I also currently live downtown in another (admittedly safer) major city.

Obviously random acts of violence occur. However, they are RANDOM, they are EXTREMELY RARE on a per capita level, and as I already described above, having a gun on you usually won't help you anyway. The best defense is prevention, as I and several others already described.

I realize you're from Texas, and most Texans seem to think there is someone with a sniper rifle constantly pointed at your head, just WAITING for you to be away from your gun so they can kill you. So nothing I say is going to change your asinine, paranoid view. Not my problem, I'll continue running through the ghetto of west philadelphia at 1am with no weapons on me, and I'll continue surviving. That's all the proof I need.

oh, and before you start another tirade of links, remember that smaller city I mentioned I grew up in? My uncle was beaten to death in a random act of violence when he was 19 years old in that city, so again....don't preach to me like I don't know what I'm talking about.
 
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Originally posted by: Deeko
Yep. It's simple. Avoid places you know are trouble. When you pass people on the streets, look them in the eye and acknowledge their presence. Walk confidently. The person staring at the ground or constantly looking around with their hands in their pockets is the person that's getting mugged.

Avoid places you know are trouble, unless you are trolling for booty, in which case the girls in the Red Light district will do ANYTHING for $10.

When you pass people on the streets, look them in the eye and acknowledge their presence with a raised eyebrow and menacing snarl. Offer to shake their hand, then pull it violently towards the ground and plant your knee squarely in their jaw. If they refuse to shake hands, stab them.

Walk confidently; that 50 calibre handgun strapped to your chest will protect you from everything from microscopic bacteria to the 101st airborne ninja brigade. If you do not have a 50 calibre handgun strapped to your chest, you will die, probably from AIDS (queer).

The person staring at the ground is likely to get mugged; the person constantly looking around with their hands in their pockets is likely the person doing the mugging. Shoot these suspicious people on sight.

Remember, above all, that this is America. If you are ever questioned for shooting someone, you only did it because they were Al Qaeda, and you're just helping to win the war on terror. We will prevail!