Berlin terrorist suspect caught-dead update

[agent00f]

Which moderator's sockpuppet is this?

Others get called out for far less racist shit than this fake. It's long past obvious.

The question is open to the field, ie you. Given the rather obvious answer, it's understandable why you & these friends will say/do anything to make it go away. Righteous indignation, playing dumb, whatever it takes, right?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Religion of peace

Religion of blowing people into itty bitty pieces. (Fixed it for you.)

 

[PingviN]

No one is surprised, allow hundred of thousands of people from a region where terrorist attacks are commonplace and they will happen here too. Simple as that.

 

[ultimatebob]

F*cking Assault Trucks! When will they ban these vehicles of death?! And, it's black! If they made it a law that vehicles could only have stained wood exterior these senseless assaults wouldn't happen! We need to ban these things yesterday!

Don't worry... I'm sure that my Connecticut senators and governor are working on an "Assault Truck" ban as we speak. We're good at knee jerk overreactions to tragedies in this state.

 

[Dari]

How come no muslim or group comes out and denounces these (many many) terror attacks? Not a peep from the muslim world. It's like they condone this stuff.

 

[NesuD]

The firearms I own primary point of existence is to hurl lead at mostly non-living targets I enjoy shooting at - the living targets are hunted ethically in that rare occasion I do it in...and that's true probably for the vast majority of firearm owners. It is only a secondary benefit that they're available almost immediately to defend my life/property. It's like...Lefties can't grasp simple concepts either. Now, back to continuing the Lefty mindset:

Man these Assault Trucks that can carry more than 10 square feet of cargo! We need to allow them to only be driven at "common sense" speeds! If only the suppressor on these Assault Vehicles didn't make them so quiet, people wouldn't be hurt! And again with the scary black paint job: Why must they be black?! Black makes these Assault Trucks more scary (zomg)! If the steering wheel on these Assault Trucks could be re-designed to not make them so ergonomic, and thus less useful to the user, maybe that would stop them being so lethal?! OMG we need additional regulations for driving these!

Don't forget to limit them to 5 gallon fuel tanks in California

 

[Atreus21]

We need to round up all religious people and all people with extreme views and kill them.

Irony.

 

[Atreus21]

Yeah, no. You are projecting your own liberal ideals onto this group. Liberals like to blame everything on poverty and the solution to everything is redistribution.

Correction: When their favored groups are the perpetrators, they blame poverty. When their favored groups are the victims, they blame the perpetrators.

 

[fskimospy]

How come no muslim or group comes out and denounces these (many many) terror attacks? Not a peep from the muslim world. It's like they condone this stuff.

Muslim groups come out and denounce these sort of things constantly. Like... constantly.

 

[Commodus]

How come no muslim or group comes out and denounces these (many many) terror attacks? Not a peep from the muslim world. It's like they condone this stuff.

They do. Often. ISIS in particular has been repeatedly denounced both in mass protests by Muslims as well as by clerics and other leaders (including fellow Sunnis). Just because you don't see it constantly on the news doesn't mean it isn't happening.

 

[Indus]

The only good news in all this is that it didn't interrupt Obama's golf game.
"The President and his motorcade departed the Kailua neighborhood where the First Family rents a vacation home at 10:21 a.m. Spectators on the street threw shakas and recorded photos or video on cell phones as the motorcade made the 10-minute drive to Mid-Pacific Country Club, where the President will be golfing under cloudy skies."
http://www.mediaite.com/online/obam...n-berlin-attack-and-russian-ambassador-death/

Only in a retarded idiot's mind is Obama President of Germany and Turkey and is responsible for those countries.

LMAO... why don't you pin the holocaust on Obama too retard?

Come on.. maybe the Napoleonic war too and the plague.

This guy is such an idiot, makes me crack up everytime... better than watching SNL.

 

[Jaskalas]

How come no muslim or group comes out and denounces these (many many) terror attacks? Not a peep from the muslim world. It's like they condone this stuff.

It's like they have no Pope to speak for them.
Peaceful Muslims do not have much, if anything, in the way of organization.
That's something we can, and should, help them with.

 

[agent00f]

It's like they have no Pope to speak for them.
Peaceful Muslims do not have much, if anything, in the way of organization.
That's something we can, and should, help them with.

You make sound as if the white power portion of the country is interested in helping people whose deaths they only benefit from.

 

[bshole]

Muslim groups come out and denounce these sort of things constantly. Like... constantly.

"Yea they would do that to deflect suspicion obviously." is a response I have seen to your assertion above. They can't really win on this one, damned if they do and damned if they don't.

 

[Commodus]

It's like they have no Pope to speak for them.
Peaceful Muslims do not have much, if anything, in the way of organization.
That's something we can, and should, help them with.

They have clerics and imams, and I'm not sure that Muslims need or want a Catholic-style international leadership structure. There are other things non-Muslims can do: amplify the messages of peaceful Muslims so that people don't only hear about Islam from extremists in the news. Fight attempts to ban immigrants or track people based solely on their religion. When someone dredges up a stereotype or a false claim about the religion, call them out on it. Basically: don't let the bigots (on all sides) control the narrative.

 

[Jaskalas]

"Yea they would do that to deflect suspicion obviously." is a response I have seen to your assertion above. They can't really win on this one, damned if they do and damned if they don't.

It's not seen as sincere because they are low key. Not big or strong enough to... make a difference?

And frankly we almost never hear from those groups, media has little to on interest in them. If they became enough of an influence among their peers to draw attacks from terrorists... and Americans saw Muslims "fighting with us", being attacked just like us, then I can assure you Americans would start to see Muslims are both enemy and friend. Instead of just the terrorist on the evening news.

A lot of this is a question of media and public perception. Both in terms of terrorist recruitment and American public distrust.

 

[agent00f]

It's not seen as sincere because they are low key. Not big or strong enough to... make a difference?

And frankly we almost never hear from those groups, media has little to on interest in them. If they became enough of an influence among their peers to draw attacks from terrorists... and Americans saw Muslims "fighting with us", being attacked just like us, then I can assure you Americans would start to see Muslims are both enemy and friend. Instead of just the terrorist on the evening news.

A lot of this is a question of media and public perception. Both in terms of terrorist recruitment and American public distrust.

You might've remember that gold star family Trumpster shitstains (you know, the ones who pretend to be patriotic) were harassing. But seems you identify enough with the latter enough to keep apologizing for them no matter what. In fact, I suspect when the registry starts you'll keep on looking the other way because don't want to think badly of your roots, lol.

 

[kage69]

Regarding the IRA, they displayed a much greater degree of morality than the Islamic groups do.

IRA brigades have proudly carried out kidnappings, imprisonments, bombings, assassinations, torture and executions. Involving civilians mind you, kids, grandmas, not British soldiers. Google "Sing sing," there was a big to do about it a couple years ago. Point out for the class where this 'higher degree of morality' can be located, just so we're all clear.

 

[soulcougher73]

Im sure it was just some white german guy who was misunderstood....

 

[desura]

I despise ISIS as the worst, followed by Al Qaeda. They are on another level. And I hope we take them down. I do believe we are on the right side of things in regards to those cretins.

But let's put things into historical context. What is worse? Or what is this much worse than the other. The attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed at least 200,000 civilians. In almost one fell swoop. Greatest targeted civilian attack in human history. That was a mere 70 years ago. In the interim, as the worlds beacon of democracy, of which many ways we are, we have supported coups of governments and support of dictatorships that brutalized their people. This happened mostly in South/Central America and the Middle East. How do you feel those incursions looked from the OTHER side? We probably were like woowoo GO 'MURICA, I don't think they were cheering so much.

We have also had our share of wars like Vietnam and Iraq. 500 THOUSAND dead in an Iraqi war that was avoidable. I could post links and stats to both of those and everything in between but why bother. Drone strikes to this day kill civilians. Do I feel some of these strikes are necessary. Sure I do. But every action has a reaction, so it's time to learn about those.

And nuclear weapons? Well I can't even count the amount of times I've heard right-wing chickenhawks suggest we just bomb the middle east and turn it into a parking lot. And I bet that a decent amount would end up being ok with it. But luckily our leadership has been sane. Until now that is.

And Trump has suggested he would be fine with actually targeting civilians - that is what level he is on. Anyway I am sure many of the civilian deaths were 'collateral' damage but does that make it magically ok? We are supposed to be the leaders in justice, but our militaristic behavior says otherwise. Civilians are a casualty of war sometimes but the ways you wage war, and for why, make differences to real lives. Do you think a family in Afghanistan who had half their family wiped out by a US drone is going to now be on our side? No they are going to
hate us more and more. And so the cycle continues.

Fuck radical Islam, but take a look at what some of modern Western Christian doctrine has done as well.

And our drone strikes are themselves a reaction to something previous...such as 9-11, or before that the first WTC attack, etc. This is indeed why I think the US should gradually reduce involvement in the Middle East, and this includes accepting immigration from Muslim majority nations. Give it a cool-down period. Fewer Muslim immigrants = fewer attacks = less reason to strike back at them.

Regarding nuclear weapons, the world war had escalated to the point where they were used. And since then, they have not been used. For perspective, there is a reason why security experts are very much on edge about Muslim countries getting nuclear bombs. There is a reason why Pakistan having nukes is a bigger problem than India having nukes. Given how Islamic societies have often behaved when they had access to conventional weapons, or even simple knives, their character is suspect. The level of irrationality and religious fanaticism within Muslim societies makes it more likely they will actually use nuclear weapons if they have access. When they regularly go on suicide attacks, and the broader society celebrates the suicide attacks, you have to wonder how well Mutually Assured Destruction works with them.

 

[desura]

IRA brigades have proudly carried out kidnappings, imprisonments, bombings, assassinations, torture and executions. Involving civilians mind you, kids, grandmas, not British soldiers. Google "Sing sing," there was a big to do about it a couple years ago. Point out for the class where this 'higher degree of morality' can be located, just so we're all clear.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing

"The bombing caused outrage both locally and internationally,[8][10] spurred on the Northern Ireland peace process,[3][4][11] and dealt a severe blow to the 'dissident' republican campaign. The Real IRA apologised and declared a ceasefire shortly after."

See the words "outraged" and "apologized" and "severe blow"?

Contrast that with this.

http://archive.adl.org/israel/israel_sbarro.html

They actually recreated the terrorist bombing as a museum exhibit, glorifying it that way. And no one stopped them.

 

[desura]

They do. Often. ISIS in particular has been repeatedly denounced both in mass protests by Muslims as well as by clerics and other leaders (including fellow Sunnis). Just because you don't see it constantly on the news doesn't mean it isn't happening.

If you ever actually listen to Muslim "denunciations" they usually coach them with with equivocating clauses, like saying, "we denounce all terrorism" which is another way of saying that the West terrorizes their societies as well, which just feeds into the grievances of the terrorists to begin with.

They also are into conspiracy theories which casts the blame on other people. In short, the Muslims never truly show remorse for what happens. It doesn't take long for them to bring up everything from the Crusades to Tim McVeigh to Westboro Baptist to put the other guy on defense.

 

[bshole]

The level of irrationality and religious fanaticism within Muslim societies makes it more likely they will actually use nuclear weapons if they have access. When they regularly go on suicide attacks, and the broader society celebrates the suicide attacks, you have to wonder how well Mutually Assured Destruction works with them.

Actually India and Pakistan are getting pretty damn close to a nuclear war over Kashmir. These fucktards have put small nukes in the hands of local commanders who can use them on their own discretion. There is reason that Obama put Pakistan as the one issue that kept him up at night.

Lest anyone think that the chances of such a war are slight, consider two recent developments.

One, a decision by Pakistan to deploy low-yield tactical or battlefield nuclear weapons and to give permission for local commanders to decide when to use them.

In an interview with the German newspaper Deutsche Welle, Gregory Koblentz of the Council on Foreign Relations warned that if a “commander of a forward-deployed nuclear armed unit finds himself in a ‘use it or lose it’ situation and about to be overrun, he might decided to launch his weapons.”
:
The second dangerous development is the “Cold Start” strategy by India that would send Indian troops across the border to a depth of 30 kilometers in the advent of a terrorist attack like the 1999 Kargill incident in Kashmir, the 2001 terrorist attack on the Indian parliament, or the 2008 attack on Mumbai that killed 166 people.

Since the Indian army is more than twice the size of Pakistan’s, there would be little that Pakistanis could do to stop such an invasion other than using battlefield nukes. India would then be faced with either accepting defeat or responding.

http://fpif.org/global-nuclear-winter-avoiding-unthinkable-india-pakistan/

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Damn the guy they detained yesterday was just released. Had nothing to do with the incident. Attacker is still at large.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/20/europe/berlin-christmas-market-truck/index.html?adkey=bn

 

[Commodus]

If you ever actually listen to Muslim "denunciations" they usually coach them with with equivocating clauses, like saying, "we denounce all terrorism" which is another way of saying that the West terrorizes their societies as well, which just feeds into the grievances of the terrorists to begin with.

They also are into conspiracy theories which casts the blame on other people. In short, the Muslims never truly show remorse for what happens. It doesn't take long for them to bring up everything from the Crusades to Tim McVeigh to Westboro Baptist to put the other guy on defense.

"The Muslims." Really, most of them? You've checked?

It's patently obvious that you're not actually going on evidence, just assumptions, stereotypes and fear. Besides, if you really believe that the very act of being Muslim makes someone a heartless monster, what's your proposed solution?