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Lifer
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Originally posted by: ergeorge
Heh ... you want to see people spin up ... try smacking your kid on the butt in the middle of a grocery store. Had somebody come up and threaten to call the police on me for one quick swat (which nipped a potential grand-mal tantrum in the bud by the way). Frankly ... for some kids, some times, it's the only way to get their attention.

My rule of thumb though ... the kid never gets a spanking if I'm angry.

I have never spanked my kids in the store, instead i use the "vulcan nerve pinch" along with my face in theirs telling them if they dont knock it off we are going out the car and you will not be happy when we get there... work pretty well have only used it 2-3 times for each kid since they were born...

 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: datalink7
My parents never spanked me or my sisters, and we turned out fine (for the most part).

**shrug** And myself and my siblings and cousins got a swat on occasion when we screwed up bad enough. And we all turned out fine also. Mean nothing.

FWIW, the title of this thread is disturbing. There is a big difference between an occasional spanking and "beating" your kids :(
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: ergeorge
Originally posted by: datalink7
My parents never spanked me or my sisters, and we turned out fine (for the most part).

**shrug** And myself and my siblings and cousins got a swat on occasion when we screwed up bad enough. And we all turned out fine also. Mean nothing.

FWIW, the title of this thread is disturbing. There is a big difference between an occasional spanking and "beating" your kids :(

Yes, well, I was just pointing out that spanking isn't always neccesary. Some people seem to think that if you don't spank your kids they will automatically turn into spoiled brats.
 

gistech1978

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omg that commercial irritated the hell out of me.
if that were me and my mom/dad you better believe i wouldve pulled that stunt ONCE.
i wouldve had that attitude BEATEN OUT OF ME and rightfully so.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: ergeorge
Heh ... you want to see people spin up ... try smacking your kid on the butt in the middle of a grocery store. Had somebody come up and threaten to call the police on me for one quick swat (which nipped a potential grand-mal tantrum in the bud by the way). Frankly ... for some kids, some times, it's the only way to get their attention.

My rule of thumb though ... the kid never gets a spanking if I'm angry.

I have never spanked my kids in the store, instead i use the "vulcan nerve pinch" along with my face in theirs telling them if they dont knock it off we are going out the car and you will not be happy when we get there... work pretty well have only used it 2-3 times for each kid since they were born...

Yea, that's generally how I handle it. But in this instance at least, I could see exactly where it was going, so, as I said, I nipped it in the bud. Probably not the best judgement, but to be honest, I think there is alot to be said for an immediate response to the behavior. With little kids they can be distracted from the reason for the punishment very quickly ... by the time you haul em out of the store and to the car, they don't understand what's wrong.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: ergeorge
Originally posted by: datalink7
My parents never spanked me or my sisters, and we turned out fine (for the most part).

**shrug** And myself and my siblings and cousins got a swat on occasion when we screwed up bad enough. And we all turned out fine also. Mean nothing.

FWIW, the title of this thread is disturbing. There is a big difference between an occasional spanking and "beating" your kids :(

Yes, well, I was just pointing out that spanking isn't neccesary. Some people seem to think that if you don't spank your kids they will automatically turn into spoiled brats.

I think it depends on the kid ... my daughter is very headstrong. That was often the only way to get through to her at all, and we tried everything including parenting classes, etc.
My son, on the other hand, all you have to to is give him a cross look. If you raise your voice, it'll almost bring him to tears.
 

djheater

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This is a repost BTW and has been covered several times.

My oldest is five, so I am not fully informed.

That being said, I have never spanked my children. Not once. I have never slapped them or touched them in anger.

Many people have remarked on how well behaved and compassionate my children are.

There i smore than one side. It is possible to raise your shildren without spanking or physical punishment. Really. It is not necessarily "harmful" to spank your child, I can admit that.
I find when I am most tempted to spank my children is when I most need to NOT spank them and find a different way to resolve the problem.



The best parenting book I've read so far.
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: ergeorge
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: ergeorge
Originally posted by: datalink7
My parents never spanked me or my sisters, and we turned out fine (for the most part).

**shrug** And myself and my siblings and cousins got a swat on occasion when we screwed up bad enough. And we all turned out fine also. Mean nothing.

FWIW, the title of this thread is disturbing. There is a big difference between an occasional spanking and "beating" your kids :(

Yes, well, I was just pointing out that spanking isn't neccesary. Some people seem to think that if you don't spank your kids they will automatically turn into spoiled brats.

I think it depends on the kid ... my daughter is very headstrong. That was often the only way to get through to her at all, and we tried everything including parenting classes, etc.
My son, on the other hand, all you have to to is give him a cross look. If you raise your voice, it'll almost bring him to tears.

I'll agree with that. I edited my post:)
 

Red Dawn

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I just give the nieghbor kid $5.00 to beat the crap out of my rat bastard nephews. It works like a charm. Ever time he misbehaves I invite Chucky over. Little Mayhem (Mathew) watches his P's and Q's when Chucky is in the house
 
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Yeah.. I have no problem beating up YOUR kids.. Could be kinda fun, actually.. I just can't imagine beating up my own kids, especially since their misbehaving could often be traced to bad parenting..
 

tcsenter

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Attempting to define/describe the difference between legitimate disciplinary corporal punishment and abuse is like trying to define/describe the difference between depictions of harmless sexuality and pornography.

You can't put it into words, but you damned well know it when you see it.
 

CPA

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I just wanna know how the hell my 6 year old ended up in a French commercial for condoms? :p


Seriously, though, I spank my kids, but when my 6-year old recently spawned into a convulsing demon from hell the other night, I just stood by and watched (fortunately he was in his bedroom). It was funny and scary at the same time. He went ballistic just because I told him he would not be getting any ice cream this coming weekend due to his behavior. The lesson I learned: never take ice cream from a little kid.
 

Armitage

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Ok, I haven't actually read this book, but I'll slam on the title anyway :D

Parenting With Love and Logic

IME, with very young children, logic doesn't even enter the picture. Ok, war story time :D

Was flying cross-country with my daughter. She was almost three. We're on the leg from Chicago to Denver, about 30 minutes into the flight. She suddenlty announces that she wants a banana. This is completly out of the blue ... I don't think she's even seen a banana for days, and doesn't care to much for them to begin with. I don't have a banana, but I have bags of her favorite snacks, games, books, etc. But she is fixated on this banana thing now, and is screaming here head off about this banana. I tried everything, but she screamed her head off, thrashed, kicked etc. for the rest of the flight (probably about 2 hours) for this banana. I guarentee there were no bananas anywhere on that aircraft! We got off in Denver, and she finally calmed down. I saw some bananas on a cart, so I got one. "Papa, I don't like bananas." :eek::|

And if I recall my side of some teenage arguments with my dad correctly, logic isn't a strong point in teens either
 
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So would beating the crap of your little darling cause her silly little mind wanted a banana have been better? I mean, silly stories like that are the stuff of life. Imagine that story with the punchline "then I smack her senseless until she promised to never eat bananas again!".. not as cool of a story..
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: CPA
I just wanna know how the hell my 6 year old ended up in a French commercial for condoms? :p


Seriously, though, I spank my kids, but when my 6-year old recently spawned into a convulsing demon from hell the other night, I just stood by and watched (fortunately he was in his bedroom). It was funny and scary at the same time. He went ballistic just because I told him he would not be getting any ice cream this coming weekend due to his behavior. The lesson I learned: never take ice cream from a little kid.


LoL, yea it is scary sometimes ... seems they sometimes cross the line between tantrum and seizure.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: ergeorge

Ok, I haven't actually read this book, but I'll slam on the title anyway :D

Parenting With Love and Logic

IME, with very young children, logic doesn't even enter the picture. Ok, war story time :D

Was flying cross-country with my daughter. She was almost three. We're on the leg from Chicago to Denver, about 30 minutes into the flight. She suddenlty announces that she wants a banana. This is completly out of the blue ... I don't think she's even seen a banana for days, and doesn't care to much for them to begin with. I don't have a banana, but I have bags of her favorite snacks, games, books, etc. But she is fixated on this banana thing now, and is screaming here head off about this banana. I tried everything, but she screamed her head off, thrashed, kicked etc. for the rest of the flight (probably about 2 hours) for this banana. I guarentee there were no bananas anywhere on that aircraft! We got off in Denver, and she finally calmed down. I saw some bananas on a cart, so I got one. "Papa, I don't like bananas." :eek::|

And if I recall my side of some teenage arguments with my dad correctly, logic isn't a strong point in teens either
You should have placed her in the overhead baggage compartment!

 

Armitage

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Feb 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
So would beating the crap of your little darling cause her silly little mind wanted a banana have been better? I mean, silly stories like that are the stuff of life. Imagine that story with the punchline "then I smack her senseless until she promised to never eat bananas again!".. not as cool of a story..

First ... I have never, and will never "beat the crap" out of my kids. :|
Second, at that point it wasn't about a banana anymore ... she was itching for a fight all day, I could see it coming. It was about me "refusing" to give her something.
And finally, I didn't spank her. It wasn't appropriate for the situation. Not sure how to explain why it wasn't, but you get a feel for when it might do some good, and when it's just throwing gas on the fire.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: ergeorge

Ok, I haven't actually read this book, but I'll slam on the title anyway :D

Parenting With Love and Logic

IME, with very young children, logic doesn't even enter the picture. Ok, war story time :D

Was flying cross-country with my daughter. She was almost three. We're on the leg from Chicago to Denver, about 30 minutes into the flight. She suddenlty announces that she wants a banana. This is completly out of the blue ... I don't think she's even seen a banana for days, and doesn't care to much for them to begin with. I don't have a banana, but I have bags of her favorite snacks, games, books, etc. But she is fixated on this banana thing now, and is screaming here head off about this banana. I tried everything, but she screamed her head off, thrashed, kicked etc. for the rest of the flight (probably about 2 hours) for this banana. I guarentee there were no bananas anywhere on that aircraft! We got off in Denver, and she finally calmed down. I saw some bananas on a cart, so I got one. "Papa, I don't like bananas." :eek::|

And if I recall my side of some teenage arguments with my dad correctly, logic isn't a strong point in teens either
You should have placed her in the overhead baggage compartment!

LoL ... If I thought she would fit ;)
 

tk149

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Originally posted by: Soccer55
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-Tom

ROTFLMAO! The one-two shut-the-hell-up. This is priceless when you're shopping and your kid won't shut the hell up: "I'm hungry, I want toys, I need my Insulin..." etc.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: ergeorge
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
So would beating the crap of your little darling cause her silly little mind wanted a banana have been better? I mean, silly stories like that are the stuff of life. Imagine that story with the punchline "then I smack her senseless until she promised to never eat bananas again!".. not as cool of a story..

First ... I have never, and will never "beat the crap" out of my kids. :|
Second, at that point it wasn't about a banana anymore ... she was itching for a fight all day, I could see it coming. It was about me "refusing" to give her something.
And finally, I didn't spank her. It wasn't appropriate for the situation. Not sure how to explain why it wasn't, but you get a feel for when it might do some good, and when it's just throwing gas on the fire.
You should have ordered yourself a couple of Airline Bottles of booze and mixed it with her juice. I'm sure that would have calmed her down. I bet the other passengers on that flight would have appreciated it!

Of course I'm kidding;)
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: ergeorge
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
So would beating the crap of your little darling cause her silly little mind wanted a banana have been better? I mean, silly stories like that are the stuff of life. Imagine that story with the punchline "then I smack her senseless until she promised to never eat bananas again!".. not as cool of a story..

First ... I have never, and will never "beat the crap" out of my kids. :|
Second, at that point it wasn't about a banana anymore ... she was itching for a fight all day, I could see it coming. It was about me "refusing" to give her something.
And finally, I didn't spank her. It wasn't appropriate for the situation. Not sure how to explain why it wasn't, but you get a feel for when it might do some good, and when it's just throwing gas on the fire.
You should have ordered yourself a couple of Airline Bottles of booze and mixed it with her juice. I'm sure that would have calmed her down. I bet the other passengers on that flight would have appreciated it!

Of course I'm kidding;)

LoL ... I bet the airline made some money on booze on that flight though! Hell, even I had a drink.
And you could tell the parents from the non-parent just by the look on their faces. Sympathy from one crowd, and raw hatred from the other.