BCS ramblings: OSU vs. Rutgers for the National Championship game!

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
if rutgers beats wvu and loisville(do they play both?), they would go to the national championship, and get stomped.

michigan is not looking good, i expect osu-NW to be >40 to <6. and thats with them taking out the first team after 2 quarters

Not a chance....it's a rivalry game. Things like talent and record mean nothing.

This is nothing more than ideology talking. If you think talent has nothing to with it, see Wisconsin/Minnesota this year for Bunyan's Axe and WVU@Pitt last year. Both were blowouts, rivalries have more of a chance for an upset to occur because of emotion, but if you think talent doesn't mean anything you're on crack.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
if rutgers beats wvu and loisville(do they play both?), they would go to the national championship, and get stomped.

michigan is not looking good, i expect osu-NW to be >40 to <6. and thats with them taking out the first team after 2 quarters

Not a chance....it's a rivalry game. Things like talent and record mean nothing.

This is nothing more than ideology talking. If you think talent has nothing to with it, see Wisconsin/Minnesota this year for Bunyan's Axe and WVU@Pitt last year. Both were blowouts, rivalries have more of a chance for an upset to occur because of emotion, but if you think talent doesn't mean anything you're on crack.

I'll stick with my statement. Just watching the last 10+ years of Iron Bowls, talent has such a miniscule effect on the game that you can safely say that it has no effect. Now there are some exceptions...(ie. guys like Bo Jackson), but I would say those are the exceptions that prove the rule.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
if rutgers beats wvu and loisville(do they play both?), they would go to the national championship, and get stomped.

michigan is not looking good, i expect osu-NW to be >40 to <6. and thats with them taking out the first team after 2 quarters

Not a chance....it's a rivalry game. Things like talent and record mean nothing.

This is nothing more than ideology talking. If you think talent has nothing to with it, see Wisconsin/Minnesota this year for Bunyan's Axe and WVU@Pitt last year. Both were blowouts, rivalries have more of a chance for an upset to occur because of emotion, but if you think talent doesn't mean anything you're on crack.

I'll stick with my statement. Just watching the last 10+ years of Iron Bowls, talent has such a miniscule effect on the game that you can safely say that it has no effect. Now there are some exceptions...(ie. guys like Bo Jackson), but I would say those are the exceptions that prove the rule.

I bet that if you looked at the records of rivalries between a ranked and unranked team, the unranked team wins no more than 1/4-1/3 of the time. I'll check the Backyard Brawl record in a bit (WVU Pitt).

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
if rutgers beats wvu and loisville(do they play both?), they would go to the national championship, and get stomped.

michigan is not looking good, i expect osu-NW to be >40 to <6. and thats with them taking out the first team after 2 quarters

Not a chance....it's a rivalry game. Things like talent and record mean nothing.

This is nothing more than ideology talking. If you think talent has nothing to with it, see Wisconsin/Minnesota this year for Bunyan's Axe and WVU@Pitt last year. Both were blowouts, rivalries have more of a chance for an upset to occur because of emotion, but if you think talent doesn't mean anything you're on crack.

I'll stick with my statement. Just watching the last 10+ years of Iron Bowls, talent has such a miniscule effect on the game that you can safely say that it has no effect. Now there are some exceptions...(ie. guys like Bo Jackson), but I would say those are the exceptions that prove the rule.

I bet that if you looked at the records of rivalries between a ranked and unranked team, the unranked team wins no more than 1/4-1/3 of the time. I'll check the Backyard Brawl record in a bit (WVU Pitt).

Here are the scores of all 70 Iron Bowl games. Alabama leads the series over Auburn 38-31-1.

Date Winner Score Site
Feb. 22, 1893 Auburn 32-22 Lakeview Baseball Park, Birmingham
Nov. 30, 1893 Auburn 40-16 Riverside Park, Montgomery
Nov. 29, 1894 Alabama 18-0 Riverside Park, Montgomery
Nov. 23, 1895 Auburn 48-0 Tuscaloosa
Nov. 17, 1900 Auburn 53-5 Montgomery
Nov. 15, 1901 Auburn 17-0 Tuscaloosa
Oct. 18, 1902 Auburn 23-0 West End Park, Birmingham
Oct. 23, 1903 Alabama 18-6 Highland Park, Montgomery
Nov. 12, 1904 Auburn 29-5 West End Park, Birmingham
Nov. 18, 1905 Alabama 30-0 West End Park, Birmingham
Nov. 17, 1906 Alabama 10-0 Birmingham Fair Grounds
Nov. 16, 1907 Tie 6-6 Birmingham Fair Grounds
Dec. 4, 1948 Alabama 55-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 3, 1949 Auburn 14-13 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1950 Alabama 34-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1951 Alabama 25-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1952 Alabama 21-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 28, 1953 Alabama 10-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1954 Auburn 28-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 26, 1955 Auburn 26-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1956 Auburn 34-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 30, 1957 Auburn 40-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1958 Auburn 14-8 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 28, 1959 Alabama 10-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 26, 1960 Alabama 3-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1961 Alabama 34-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1962 Alabama 38-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 30, 1963 Auburn 10-8 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 26, 1964 Alabama 21-14 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1965 Alabama 30-3 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 3, 1966 Alabama 31-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1967 Alabama 7-3 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 3, 1968 Alabama 24-16 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1969 Auburn 49-26 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 28, 1970 Auburn 33-28 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1971 Alabama 31-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1972 Auburn 17-16 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1973 Alabama 35-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1974 Alabama 17-13 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1975 Alabama 28-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1976 Alabama 38-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 26, 1977 Alabama 48-21 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1978 Alabama 34-16 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1979 Alabama 25-18 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1980 Alabama 34-18 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 28, 1981 Alabama 28-17 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1982 Auburn 23-22 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 3, 1983 Auburn 23-20 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1984 Alabama 17-15 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 30, 1985 Alabama 25-23 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1986 Auburn 21-17 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1987 Auburn 10-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 25, 1988 Auburn 15-10 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1989 Auburn 30-20 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Dec. 1, 1990 Alabama 16-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 30, 1991 Alabama 13-6 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 26, 1992 Alabama 17-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 20, 1993 Auburn 22-14 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 19, 1994 Alabama 21-14 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 18, 1995 Auburn 31-27 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 23, 1996 Alabama 24-23 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 22, 1997 Auburn 18-17 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 21, 1998 Alabama 31-17 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 20, 1999 Alabama 28-17 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 18, 2000 Auburn 9-0 Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa
Nov. 17, 2001 Alabama 31-7 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 23, 2002 Auburn 17-7 Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa
Nov. 22, 2003 Auburn 28-23 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 20, 2004 Auburn 21-13 Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa
Nov. 19, 2005 Auburn 28-18 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
if rutgers beats wvu and loisville(do they play both?), they would go to the national championship, and get stomped.

michigan is not looking good, i expect osu-NW to be >40 to <6. and thats with them taking out the first team after 2 quarters

Not a chance....it's a rivalry game. Things like talent and record mean nothing.

This is nothing more than ideology talking. If you think talent has nothing to with it, see Wisconsin/Minnesota this year for Bunyan's Axe and WVU@Pitt last year. Both were blowouts, rivalries have more of a chance for an upset to occur because of emotion, but if you think talent doesn't mean anything you're on crack.

I'll stick with my statement. Just watching the last 10+ years of Iron Bowls, talent has such a miniscule effect on the game that you can safely say that it has no effect. Now there are some exceptions...(ie. guys like Bo Jackson), but I would say those are the exceptions that prove the rule.

I bet that if you looked at the records of rivalries between a ranked and unranked team, the unranked team wins no more than 1/4-1/3 of the time. I'll check the Backyard Brawl record in a bit (WVU Pitt).

Here are the scores of all 70 Iron Bowl games. Alabama leads the series over Auburn 38-31-1.

Date Winner Score Site
Feb. 22, 1893 Auburn 32-22 Lakeview Baseball Park, Birmingham
Nov. 30, 1893 Auburn 40-16 Riverside Park, Montgomery
Nov. 29, 1894 Alabama 18-0 Riverside Park, Montgomery
Nov. 23, 1895 Auburn 48-0 Tuscaloosa
Nov. 17, 1900 Auburn 53-5 Montgomery
Nov. 15, 1901 Auburn 17-0 Tuscaloosa
Oct. 18, 1902 Auburn 23-0 West End Park, Birmingham
Oct. 23, 1903 Alabama 18-6 Highland Park, Montgomery
Nov. 12, 1904 Auburn 29-5 West End Park, Birmingham
Nov. 18, 1905 Alabama 30-0 West End Park, Birmingham
Nov. 17, 1906 Alabama 10-0 Birmingham Fair Grounds
Nov. 16, 1907 Tie 6-6 Birmingham Fair Grounds
Dec. 4, 1948 Alabama 55-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 3, 1949 Auburn 14-13 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1950 Alabama 34-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1951 Alabama 25-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1952 Alabama 21-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 28, 1953 Alabama 10-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1954 Auburn 28-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 26, 1955 Auburn 26-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1956 Auburn 34-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 30, 1957 Auburn 40-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1958 Auburn 14-8 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 28, 1959 Alabama 10-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 26, 1960 Alabama 3-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1961 Alabama 34-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1962 Alabama 38-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 30, 1963 Auburn 10-8 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 26, 1964 Alabama 21-14 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1965 Alabama 30-3 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 3, 1966 Alabama 31-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1967 Alabama 7-3 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 3, 1968 Alabama 24-16 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1969 Auburn 49-26 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 28, 1970 Auburn 33-28 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1971 Alabama 31-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1972 Auburn 17-16 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1973 Alabama 35-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1974 Alabama 17-13 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1975 Alabama 28-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1976 Alabama 38-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 26, 1977 Alabama 48-21 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1978 Alabama 34-16 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1979 Alabama 25-18 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1980 Alabama 34-18 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 28, 1981 Alabama 28-17 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1982 Auburn 23-22 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 3, 1983 Auburn 23-20 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 1, 1984 Alabama 17-15 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 30, 1985 Alabama 25-23 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 29, 1986 Auburn 21-17 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 27, 1987 Auburn 10-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 25, 1988 Auburn 15-10 Legion Field, Birmingham
Dec. 2, 1989 Auburn 30-20 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Dec. 1, 1990 Alabama 16-7 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 30, 1991 Alabama 13-6 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 26, 1992 Alabama 17-0 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 20, 1993 Auburn 22-14 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 19, 1994 Alabama 21-14 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 18, 1995 Auburn 31-27 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 23, 1996 Alabama 24-23 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 22, 1997 Auburn 18-17 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 21, 1998 Alabama 31-17 Legion Field, Birmingham
Nov. 20, 1999 Alabama 28-17 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 18, 2000 Auburn 9-0 Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa
Nov. 17, 2001 Alabama 31-7 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 23, 2002 Auburn 17-7 Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa
Nov. 22, 2003 Auburn 28-23 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
Nov. 20, 2004 Auburn 21-13 Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa
Nov. 19, 2005 Auburn 28-18 Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn

It doesn't say whether a team is ranked or not. That = indicator of talent.

I couldn't find much on the Backyard Brawl except Pitt leads the series 59-36-3, and this article:
http://www.msnsportsnet.com/page.cfm?section=8576

They only mention 14 memorable games, where 10 were most likely upsets and the others were really close (like the 1982 game with Marino's comback and WVU barely missing the 52yd FG as time expired). So 10 upsets out of 98 games roughly = 9.8%.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
You sound like a UGA fan I met last year, "WVU doesn't even belong in the Sugar Bowl to play an SEC Team." Yet you forget, the underdog always has a chance to win whether it's a 14 point spread or 40. Don't write them off so soon, look at what happened in the MLB ALDS when everyone thought the "Murderer's Row plus Canoe" NY Yankees would crush the struggling Detroit Tigers. You see it every year in sports.

You're still missing the point.

Yes, they were underdogs, but that fact does not imply a curb stomping.

I was at the game. It was a curb stomping. Over 1/4 of UGA's fans left before the 2nd half even started. And just as UGA was about to make their comeback, they had their hearts ripped out again (fake punt for a WVU 1st down).

While on the subject of this, I just read Schlabach (an SEC fan and ESPN writer) say about that game: "The Mountaineers got that chance a season ago -- and they waxed the SEC champions in the Sugar Bowl."

Do yourself a favor and read the article, and why the SEC doesn't have a stronger SoS than the Big East. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/s...id=2643667&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab6pos1

Last but not least, ponder the difference between "waxed" and "curb stomped". I expect a report on my desk by 8am tomorrow.

Backpedaling, are we? 😉

So the game was over in the 1st quarter...but Georgia made a comeback by the third (pulling within three, IIRC). Which one is it?

Fair enough. As long as you brush up on the subject I've already linked you to - Text

I think you're lacking in knowledge in that much more than any other subject...

You're entitled to your opinion, as well as your ability to split hairs. Just remember that writers, fans, and half of this thread disagrees.

In addition, I never saw a response from you about taking the same $10 bet Mill took: that if WVU is undefeated, they will play for the national title. I'm guessing after you were looking up "Reality" in Wikipedia during the last post, the irony was so e-peeningly thick that you could cut it with Lorena Bobbit's knife? :laugh:

Ha.

Is there any reason you're so afraid to remove the word "if"? Conditional bets are silly...

But here's a conditional bet I will gladly offer you: If WVU makes it into the national championship game, I'll take whoever they're playing for that $10.

Deal?

Well considering the fact that I think OSU is a better all around ballclub and will win, will you give me the point spread? Then we have a deal.

If you believe that WVU deserves to play in the national championship game, then that means you believe they're at least the 2nd best team in the nation.

As such, they should have at least reasonable chance of beating whoever they face in the national championship...so why would you need the point spread?

So based on how deserving of the no. 2 spot you believe WVU is, no the bet will not include the point spread, just the winner.

Deal?

Ok, since you are taking my bet as well. It will probably even out in the end, I win $10 since they play for the title, you will probably win it back when OSU wins.

Ha ha.

When did I say I was taking your silly, conditional bet?

So do we have a deal?

If you're not taking my bet, then F*** no. You opened your big mouth in the thread with Mill, so you should back it up with him. You probably read the article by Schlarath after opening your mouth and have since changed your mind. Time for you to man up. 😉

When did I ever say I'd take that bet?

All I've ever said about that bet was that it was silly.

As I've said over and over, all you're betting on is whether or not the computers like WVU. Because WVU has a weak nonconference schedule, their BCS love is largely based on them being good relative to Big East football

Meanwhile, you're spouting up and down about how good WVU is this year relative to national football.

So it looks like you're the one changing your mind (I'm guessing you finally read the Wikipedia article). The two best teams in the nation belong in the national championship game. Given your fear of OSU, it's pretty obvious you don't believe they're anywhere near #2 caliber.

Or maybe, what you're saying is "Yes, I know WVU isn't really the 2nd best team in the nation, but I'm hoping they can fool the computers into a spot in the national championship game."

Or...do we have a bet?

 

[ElFenix]

i like how auburn is undefeated in tuscaloosa

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i like how auburn is undefeated in tuscaloosa

Me too 😉

This is the Year of the Thumb! 🙂

 

[b0mbrman]

To keep the actual BCS scores in perspective:

RankvBCS.GIF

 

[drum]

the only thing I learned from this thread is that my favorite new phrase is curb stomp :laugh:

/Go Blue

 

[Insomniator]

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Go Rutgers!

Gettin my ticket tuesday 8 am!

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
You sound like a UGA fan I met last year, "WVU doesn't even belong in the Sugar Bowl to play an SEC Team." Yet you forget, the underdog always has a chance to win whether it's a 14 point spread or 40. Don't write them off so soon, look at what happened in the MLB ALDS when everyone thought the "Murderer's Row plus Canoe" NY Yankees would crush the struggling Detroit Tigers. You see it every year in sports.

You're still missing the point.

Yes, they were underdogs, but that fact does not imply a curb stomping.

I was at the game. It was a curb stomping. Over 1/4 of UGA's fans left before the 2nd half even started. And just as UGA was about to make their comeback, they had their hearts ripped out again (fake punt for a WVU 1st down).

While on the subject of this, I just read Schlabach (an SEC fan and ESPN writer) say about that game: "The Mountaineers got that chance a season ago -- and they waxed the SEC champions in the Sugar Bowl."

Do yourself a favor and read the article, and why the SEC doesn't have a stronger SoS than the Big East. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/s...id=2643667&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab6pos1

Last but not least, ponder the difference between "waxed" and "curb stomped". I expect a report on my desk by 8am tomorrow.

You ready for that report? It's nearly 8 am here...

waxed - WVU over Georgia last year
curb-stomped - Um...I'm struggling to find an example...any help?

 

[b0mbrman]

BTW, for those of you that didn't catch it, the final score of the Louisville-WVU game was Louisville 44-WVU 34

😀

 

[b0mbrman]

Welp, since this is the most recent thread with the word BCS in it, you get my prediction for the week 11 BCS ranking:

1 Ohio State
2 Michigan
3 Florida
4 Louisville
5 Auburn
6 West Virginia
7 Texas
8 USC
9 Notre Dame
10 California

NCG predictions

Florida has already played the meat of their SEC schedule. South Carolina has been dangerous all season (and there's the Steve Spurrier in their brain thing) but if they can get through them, they'll play Western Carolina (2-7 ) and Florida State (4-4 but plan on them playing Florida closer than their record and performance would show)

Louisville can still lose at Rutgers, though I'm pretty sure they won't (I say Louisville -10). And if they don't, I think they'll switch places with Florida.

UM or OSU would each have the strongest schedule among them, Florida, and Louisville, so the computers would like the loser. However, I don't think the humans would let a UM-OSU NCG happen.

So at this second, my prediction is OSU-Louisville in the national championship game...which OSU wins

Wow...that's a lot of words...looks like I just felt like talking.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Welp, since this is the most recent thread with the word BCS in it, you get my prediction for the week 11 BCS ranking:

1 Ohio State
2 Michigan
3 Florida
4 Louisville
5 Auburn
6 West Virginia
7 Texas
8 USC
9 Notre Dame
10 California

i'm trying to figure out how you've got WVU ahead of texas. texas was ahead of WVU in the computers before WVU lost. now texas will be ahead in the people polls as well. there is no way texas will be behind WVU come sunday afternoon.

louisville isn't going to be behind florida, either. louisville will be #3 in the people polls, and will move up ahead of rutgers and *maybe* auburn in the computers.

my top 10 is:
osu
mich
louisville
floriduh
auburn
texas
USC-ND tied
cal
wvu

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Welp, since this is the most recent thread with the word BCS in it, you get my prediction for the week 11 BCS ranking:

1 Ohio State
2 Michigan
3 Florida
4 Louisville
5 Auburn
6 West Virginia
7 Texas
8 USC
9 Notre Dame
10 California

i'm trying to figure out how you've got WVU ahead of texas. texas was ahead of WVU in the computers before WVU lost. now texas will be ahead in the people polls as well. there is no way texas will be behind WVU come sunday afternoon.

louisville isn't going to be behind florida, either. louisville will be #3 in the people polls, and will move up ahead of rutgers and *maybe* auburn in the computers.

my top 10 is:
osu
mich
louisville
floriduh
auburn
texas
USC-ND tied
cal
wvu

Hmmm...I don't think the humans would let WVU fall that far. You could be right (Heck, I hope you're right. I have lots of vested interest in 6th Street staying happy 😉)

You don't think people will hedge their Louisville bets on the off chance they slip at Rutgers? Florida's got nothing left...

And no way Louisville's behind Rutgers in the computer polls...are they?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Hmmm...I don't think the humans would let WVU fall that far. You could be right (Heck, I hope you're right 😉. I have lots of vested interest in 6th Street staying happy)

You don't think people will hedge their Louisville bets on the off chance they slip at Rutgers? Florida's got nothing left...

And no way Louisville's behind Rutgers in the computer polls...are they?

they sure are. or were. .680 vs. .690, basically a tie. they'll move up this week.


wvu only has to fall one place to be behind texas. and they will fall at least that far. they might stay ahead of usc and the domers in the wire polls, and their computer ranking will drag them below those 3 schools.

and i'm going to edit my poll and move texas ahead of auburn. computers will like beating okie state better than middle upper southeastern technical college or whoever auburn played. 3 1/1000ths of a point will be made up by the computer ranking incrementing just 1/100th of a point, and it should go up a bit more than that, possibly to .600.

osu
mich
louisville
floriduh
texas
auburn
domers-trojans
cal
wvu


edit: i might be jumping the gun, texas didn't move in the sagarin rankings. washington state and tenn were the only teams that dropped from ahead of UT. they were replaced by wisconsin and louisville. ND jumped from 7th to 3rd by playing a crappy north carolina team. florida fell from 4th to 8th. LV jumped from 14th to 4th. although auburn did drop a spot.

 

[BlancoNino]

Why isn't Boise State getting any love? They beat Oregon State 42-14..the team that knocked off USC. Oh yeah, they're also undefeated and their running back is a Heisman candidate.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Hmmm...I don't think the humans would let WVU fall that far. You could be right (Heck, I hope you're right 😉. I have lots of vested interest in 6th Street staying happy)

You don't think people will hedge their Louisville bets on the off chance they slip at Rutgers? Florida's got nothing left...

And no way Louisville's behind Rutgers in the computer polls...are they?

they sure are. or were. .680 vs. .690, basically a tie. they'll move up this week.

Heh, of course. I even quoted that difference in this thread: Text

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Hmmm...I don't think the humans would let WVU fall that far. You could be right (Heck, I hope you're right 😉. I have lots of vested interest in 6th Street staying happy)

You don't think people will hedge their Louisville bets on the off chance they slip at Rutgers? Florida's got nothing left...

And no way Louisville's behind Rutgers in the computer polls...are they?

they sure are. or were. .680 vs. .690, basically a tie. they'll move up this week.


wvu only has to fall one place to be behind texas. and they will fall at least that far. they might stay ahead of usc and the domers in the wire polls, and their computer ranking will drag them below those 3 schools.

and i'm going to edit my poll and move texas ahead of auburn. computers will like beating okie state better than middle upper southeastern technical college or whoever auburn played. 3 1/1000ths of a point will be made up by the computer ranking incrementing just 1/100th of a point, and it should go up a bit more than that, possibly to .600.

osu
mich
louisville
floriduh
texas
auburn
domers-trojans
cal
wvu

Well, it is likely that the difference will be made up, but maybe not. LSU just improved with a win over a High BCS ranked team and Cal won again as well (who lost to UT). Auburn may get enough help because of LSU improving (and they don't play UT) to stay ahead of UT one more week.

Auburn has played poorly lately. They deserve to drop.

 

[her209]

Obviously being a Trojan fan, I'd want Rutgers to beat Louisville and lose to WVU.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Hmmm...I don't think the humans would let WVU fall that far. You could be right (Heck, I hope you're right 😉. I have lots of vested interest in 6th Street staying happy)

You don't think people will hedge their Louisville bets on the off chance they slip at Rutgers? Florida's got nothing left...

And no way Louisville's behind Rutgers in the computer polls...are they?

they sure are. or were. .680 vs. .690, basically a tie. they'll move up this week.


wvu only has to fall one place to be behind texas. and they will fall at least that far. they might stay ahead of usc and the domers in the wire polls, and their computer ranking will drag them below those 3 schools.

and i'm going to edit my poll and move texas ahead of auburn. computers will like beating okie state better than middle upper southeastern technical college or whoever auburn played. 3 1/1000ths of a point will be made up by the computer ranking incrementing just 1/100th of a point, and it should go up a bit more than that, possibly to .600.

osu
mich
louisville
floriduh
texas
auburn
domers-trojans
cal
wvu

Well, it is likely that the difference will be made up, but maybe not. LSU just improved with a win over a High BCS ranked team and Cal won again as well (who lost to UT). Auburn may get enough help because of LSU improving (and they don't play UT) to stay ahead of UT one more week.

Auburn has played poorly lately. They deserve to drop.

Looks like you're right so far with 1/2 of the human polls in - USA Today

WVU dropped from 3 to 10. Tennessee fell 8 to 15. Everyone else in the top 10 moved forward in order.

[Edit] Same exact moves within the AP Poll - Text.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Looks like you're right so far with 1/2 of the human polls in - USA Today

WVU dropped from 3 to 10. Tennessee fell 8 to 15. Everyone else in the top 10 moved forward in order.

[Edit] Same exact moves within the AP Poll - Text.

i'm honestly shocked that we're ahead of louisville in the coaches poll. i guess 15 points is pretty much a tie when you could get up to 1575. and only 6 points behind louisville in the harris, out of 2850 total, even closer.

we gained even more than i thought in the computers, though, so up to .630. pretty good jump. probably due to oklahoma beating a&m. only 2 1/1000ths behind floriduh with an 8-2 texas a&m team still to play (and then UNL again).

we still need a miracle, though. louisville and rutgers need to lose, and florida in the SEC title game, and hopefully not to auburn. there is a very real likelihood of the SEC champ getting to the title game, i think.


edit: looks like i was wrong about the relative positions of the domers, usc, and cal. somehow USC moved up compared the domers by playing a winless stanford team, while the domers played a team with at least 1 or 2 wins. domers are down to 9th in the bcs. wvu is exactly where i thought they'd be. though they didn't fall in the computers (still 13th... i guess the computers saw the 5th ranked team playing the 13th ranked team and don't fault the 13th ranked team for losing so much)

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Looks like you're right so far with 1/2 of the human polls in - USA Today

WVU dropped from 3 to 10. Tennessee fell 8 to 15. Everyone else in the top 10 moved forward in order.

[Edit] Same exact moves within the AP Poll - Text.

i'm honestly shocked that we're ahead of louisville in the coaches poll. i guess 15 points is pretty much a tie when you could get up to 1575. and only 6 points behind louisville in the harris, out of 2850 total, even closer.

we gained even more than i thought in the computers, though, so up to .630. pretty good jump. probably due to oklahoma beating a&m. only 2 1/1000ths behind floriduh with an 8-2 texas a&m team still to play (and then UNL again).

we still need a miracle, though. louisville and rutgers need to lose, and florida in the SEC title game, and hopefully not to auburn. there is a very real likelihood of the SEC champ getting to the title game, i think.


edit: looks like i was wrong about the relative positions of the domers, usc, and cal. somehow USC moved up compared the domers by playing a winless stanford team, while the domers played a team with at least 1 or 2 wins. domers are down to 9th in the bcs. wvu is exactly where i thought they'd be. though they didn't fall in the computers (still 13th... i guess the computers saw the 5th ranked team playing the 13th ranked team and don't fault the 13th ranked team for losing so much)

I think UT is in a good position. It would be really hard for Auburn to play for the SEC Championship because someone has to beat Arkansas twice. They have Tenn and LSU left, but Tenn has an injured QB, and their starting RB got arrested last night.

Actually, if Arkansas beat LSU, UT, and Florida in the title game, they could have a rapid ascent in the BCS -- especially if USC wins out and climbs up. Then their only loss could be to a top 5 BCS team. It would really come down to their SOS vs. Texas' and how much the voters would move them up if they won those three games in a row. Even if they did that, I don't much see them jumping Texas unless UT struggled in their last few games.

Who knows. Still a mess at this point.

 

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Its looking more real!