BCS ramblings: OSU vs. Rutgers for the National Championship game!

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Brackis
If it weren't for the $$$, and I was an undefeated Rutgers team not playing in the NCG, I would reject the BCS bowl that offered me a spot.

No you wouldn't. You can't buy the kind of exposure a BCS game brings...especially for recruiting. Trust me, I went through the same thing in 2004 with my beloved Tigers.

 

[Mill]

Auburn is never going to play UL while Petrino is there.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Mill
Auburn is never going to play UL while Petrino is there.

I wasn't going to bring that up. 😉

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Dirigible

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: Dirigible

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

...I'd rather see USC/Cal (if they can run the table). ...

You'll see USC/Cal on Nov. 18, IIRC.

Yeah, but I think he meant he would like to see the USC/Cal winner play the OSU/Michigan winner for the championship.

Good point. I think you're right. Let me go get some coffee and wake up.

I thought hte USC/Cal winner is going to the Rose Bowl, and the loser gets to go to the Holiday bowl (where Pac-10 teams get their asses kicked). Ok, then again the new standings might be a little different with Rutgers and stuff.

 

[LS20]

Originally posted by: Brackis
If it weren't for the $$$, and I was an undefeated Rutgers team not playing in the NCG, I would reject the BCS bowl that offered me a spot.

you (playing the rutgers role) think you deserve to play for the NC because your ONLY win over a ranked opponent is a last-second squeaker.... over a team many already thought to be overrated?

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: LS20
texas vs osu for back to back NC... and 2-1 advantage over the buckeyes

That would be incredibly lame to see a rematch of those two teams. I'd rather see USC/Cal (if they can run the table). Or maybe even an SEC team so after they get destroyed they will finally stfu about their weakass conference.

Haha, I always love it when someone from the Big East talks smack about other conferences. Perhaps if you guys learned to play defense (outside of NJ), your conference would get some respect.

I'll accept smacktalk from good conferences...Big 10, fellow SEC folks, and Big 12 South.

And the SEC was too scared to put Big East teams like Louisville on their schedule, you should read up a bit.


The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2652451

The loudest Big East bashing seems to be coming from Southeastern Conference advocates. Here's the funny thing about that: Ask how many SEC teams are willing to schedule Louisville.

The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals.

Kentucky does it more out of rote obligation, satisfying the state's mandate to have its two I-A teams play on an annual basis. The Wildcats are so thrilled about the series that they've cravenly demanded moving the games in Lexington off their traditional season-opening date to a spot later in the calendar, when the matchup will draw less attention.

The other SEC school to step up is Georgia, which has agreed to a two-year home-and-home with Louisville starting in 2010.

Vanderbilt backed out of a contract with the Cards that was to start next year. Everyone else in the SEC has passed at least once on home-and-home overtures from Louisville this century, according to senior associate athletic director Kevin Miller.

It's gotten to the point that Louisville is now offering neutral-site games with SEC teams. Miller said he's met with officials in Nashville about scheduling Louisville against Alabama, Arkansas or Tennessee. Athletic director Tom Jurich (10) said he's open to playing an SEC team in the Georgia Dome. They've asked ESPN for help in lining up games, too.

The takers are few -- and not just in the SEC. Among the others who have broken contracts with the Cardinals in recent years, according to Miller: Boston College, Georgia Tech, Duke and Texas Tech.

"[Football scheduling] has become the hardest part of my job," Jurich said.

SEC schools are busy filling out their schedules with home games, largely against chumps. So far in 2006 the league has produced exactly one road win against a nonconference opponent from a Big Six league: Vanderbilt over Duke. The Big East owns six road wins over Big Six opponents in 2006.

This is how you preserve the status quo: refuse to play up-and-coming programs, then howl about their allegedly weak schedules.

Answer the bolded section, SEC Fanboys. One road win out of how many teams in the SEC? Didn't think so. To repeat: weakass (which equates to overrated) conference.

Many have home/home contracts and this happened to be their year to host. I'll speak to the team I know best: Tennessee has played @ND twice and @Miami in the past 5 years. They will go to Cal to open next season. They have also scheduled series (home/home)with Oklahoma, UCLA and NC State for the next 3 years. In fact UCLA and ND show up on our schedule every 5-7 years.

A Big East team would not make it thru an SEC, Big10, Big12 or Pac10 schedule like they are doing now. They might be able to match up for 1 or 2 games but not a season. Ask Bobby Bowden why he turned down the offer to join the SEC, because he said he would never win a championship playing those teams every year.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: Brackis
If it weren't for the $$$, and I was an undefeated Rutgers team not playing in the NCG, I would reject the BCS bowl that offered me a spot.

you (playing the rutgers role) think you deserve to play for the NC because your ONLY win over a ranked opponent is a last-second squeaker.... over a team many already thought to be overrated?

Seriously. After seeing the Louisville vs WVU game I thought both of those teams were way overrated.

I live in NJ and love to see Rutgers doing well, but they can't hold a candle to the top teams.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: LS20
texas vs osu for back to back NC... and 2-1 advantage over the buckeyes

That would be incredibly lame to see a rematch of those two teams. I'd rather see USC/Cal (if they can run the table). Or maybe even an SEC team so after they get destroyed they will finally stfu about their weakass conference.

Haha, I always love it when someone from the Big East talks smack about other conferences. Perhaps if you guys learned to play defense (outside of NJ), your conference would get some respect.

I'll accept smacktalk from good conferences...Big 10, fellow SEC folks, and Big 12 South.

And the SEC was too scared to put Big East teams like Louisville on their schedule, you should read up a bit.


The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2652451

The loudest Big East bashing seems to be coming from Southeastern Conference advocates. Here's the funny thing about that: Ask how many SEC teams are willing to schedule Louisville.

The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals.

Kentucky does it more out of rote obligation, satisfying the state's mandate to have its two I-A teams play on an annual basis. The Wildcats are so thrilled about the series that they've cravenly demanded moving the games in Lexington off their traditional season-opening date to a spot later in the calendar, when the matchup will draw less attention.

The other SEC school to step up is Georgia, which has agreed to a two-year home-and-home with Louisville starting in 2010.

Vanderbilt backed out of a contract with the Cards that was to start next year. Everyone else in the SEC has passed at least once on home-and-home overtures from Louisville this century, according to senior associate athletic director Kevin Miller.

It's gotten to the point that Louisville is now offering neutral-site games with SEC teams. Miller said he's met with officials in Nashville about scheduling Louisville against Alabama, Arkansas or Tennessee. Athletic director Tom Jurich (10) said he's open to playing an SEC team in the Georgia Dome. They've asked ESPN for help in lining up games, too.

The takers are few -- and not just in the SEC. Among the others who have broken contracts with the Cardinals in recent years, according to Miller: Boston College, Georgia Tech, Duke and Texas Tech.

"[Football scheduling] has become the hardest part of my job," Jurich said.

SEC schools are busy filling out their schedules with home games, largely against chumps. So far in 2006 the league has produced exactly one road win against a nonconference opponent from a Big Six league: Vanderbilt over Duke. The Big East owns six road wins over Big Six opponents in 2006.

This is how you preserve the status quo: refuse to play up-and-coming programs, then howl about their allegedly weak schedules.

Answer the bolded section, SEC Fanboys. One road win out of how many teams in the SEC? Didn't think so. To repeat: weakass (which equates to overrated) conference.

Many have home/home contracts and this happened to be their year to host. I'll speak to the team I know best: Tennessee has played @ND twice and @Miami in the past 5 years. They will go to Cal to open next season. They have also scheduled series (home/home)with Oklahoma, UCLA and NC State for the next 3 years. In fact UCLA and ND show up on our schedule every 5-7 years.

A Big East team would not make it thru an SEC, Big10, Big12 or Pac10 schedule like they are doing now. They might be able to match up for 1 or 2 games but not a season. Ask Bobby Bowden why he turned down the offer to join the SEC, because he said he would never win a championship playing those teams every year.

FWIW, Auburn played home and home with USC, played Wash St., and is going to start playing home and home with WVU.

I wish Auburn would play nothing BUT tough non-conference games. I care nothing about a weak non-conf game. I'd love to see Auburn play ND, Texas, USC, OSU, Michigan year in and year out.

But it isn't going to happen. The SEC Conf schedule is so tought that they won't schedule that many non-conf games.

The Big East has not arrived. If they produce for the next few years you can start saying that.

UL is the same thay always are. They always lose a game or two under Petrino.

 

[allies]

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: Brackis
If it weren't for the $$$, and I was an undefeated Rutgers team not playing in the NCG, I would reject the BCS bowl that offered me a spot.

you (playing the rutgers role) think you deserve to play for the NC because your ONLY win over a ranked opponent is a last-second squeaker.... over a team many already thought to be overrated?

*IF* (big IF) Rutgers can pull off a road victory at WVU... then the picture gets a little more muddy....

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: LS20
texas vs osu for back to back NC... and 2-1 advantage over the buckeyes

That would be incredibly lame to see a rematch of those two teams. I'd rather see USC/Cal (if they can run the table). Or maybe even an SEC team so after they get destroyed they will finally stfu about their weakass conference.

Haha, I always love it when someone from the Big East talks smack about other conferences. Perhaps if you guys learned to play defense (outside of NJ), your conference would get some respect.

I'll accept smacktalk from good conferences...Big 10, fellow SEC folks, and Big 12 South.

And the SEC was too scared to put Big East teams like Louisville on their schedule, you should read up a bit.


The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2652451

The loudest Big East bashing seems to be coming from Southeastern Conference advocates. Here's the funny thing about that: Ask how many SEC teams are willing to schedule Louisville.

The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals.

Kentucky does it more out of rote obligation, satisfying the state's mandate to have its two I-A teams play on an annual basis. The Wildcats are so thrilled about the series that they've cravenly demanded moving the games in Lexington off their traditional season-opening date to a spot later in the calendar, when the matchup will draw less attention.

The other SEC school to step up is Georgia, which has agreed to a two-year home-and-home with Louisville starting in 2010.

Vanderbilt backed out of a contract with the Cards that was to start next year. Everyone else in the SEC has passed at least once on home-and-home overtures from Louisville this century, according to senior associate athletic director Kevin Miller.

It's gotten to the point that Louisville is now offering neutral-site games with SEC teams. Miller said he's met with officials in Nashville about scheduling Louisville against Alabama, Arkansas or Tennessee. Athletic director Tom Jurich (10) said he's open to playing an SEC team in the Georgia Dome. They've asked ESPN for help in lining up games, too.

The takers are few -- and not just in the SEC. Among the others who have broken contracts with the Cardinals in recent years, according to Miller: Boston College, Georgia Tech, Duke and Texas Tech.

"[Football scheduling] has become the hardest part of my job," Jurich said.

SEC schools are busy filling out their schedules with home games, largely against chumps. So far in 2006 the league has produced exactly one road win against a nonconference opponent from a Big Six league: Vanderbilt over Duke. The Big East owns six road wins over Big Six opponents in 2006.

This is how you preserve the status quo: refuse to play up-and-coming programs, then howl about their allegedly weak schedules.

Answer the bolded section, SEC Fanboys. One road win out of how many teams in the SEC? Didn't think so. To repeat: weakass (which equates to overrated) conference.

Why the hell would someone like Tennessee who already has to play teams like Florida, LSU, etc. want to add a team like Louisville to the schedule? I'll tell you why. We added Cal instead. Give me a break. We can't make all of our non-conference games against highly ranked teams. How about you play in a conference that doesn't suck from top to bottom and then you will understand why you don't schedule every team under the sun.

Also, to add perspective, here is the strength of schedule of the top 3 schools in both conferences based on the CBS Sportsline 119 poll (taken prior to last night's hilarity).

Louisville: Ranked #3 SoS 39
Auburn: Ranked #5 SoS 26
Florida: Ranked #6 SoS 5
West Virginia: Ranked #8 SoS 24
Rutgers: Ranked #10 SoS 63
LSU: Ranked #14 SoS 18

Big East Avg: 42
SEC Avg: 16

Yah, "Weak Ass" Conference. One other thing to note. Last week before WVU and Louisville played they had abyssmal SoS rankings in the 60-90 range depending on where you look. Stop whining about YOUR weak ass conference dude.

I don't even know why I have to defend the SEC. We know we rock and you guys are wannabes. You can't argue with a wannabe. 😛

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: LS20
texas vs osu for back to back NC... and 2-1 advantage over the buckeyes

That would be incredibly lame to see a rematch of those two teams. I'd rather see USC/Cal (if they can run the table). Or maybe even an SEC team so after they get destroyed they will finally stfu about their weakass conference.

Haha, I always love it when someone from the Big East talks smack about other conferences. Perhaps if you guys learned to play defense (outside of NJ), your conference would get some respect.

I'll accept smacktalk from good conferences...Big 10, fellow SEC folks, and Big 12 South.

And the SEC was too scared to put Big East teams like Louisville on their schedule, you should read up a bit.


The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2652451

The loudest Big East bashing seems to be coming from Southeastern Conference advocates. Here's the funny thing about that: Ask how many SEC teams are willing to schedule Louisville.

The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals.

Kentucky does it more out of rote obligation, satisfying the state's mandate to have its two I-A teams play on an annual basis. The Wildcats are so thrilled about the series that they've cravenly demanded moving the games in Lexington off their traditional season-opening date to a spot later in the calendar, when the matchup will draw less attention.

The other SEC school to step up is Georgia, which has agreed to a two-year home-and-home with Louisville starting in 2010.

Vanderbilt backed out of a contract with the Cards that was to start next year. Everyone else in the SEC has passed at least once on home-and-home overtures from Louisville this century, according to senior associate athletic director Kevin Miller.

It's gotten to the point that Louisville is now offering neutral-site games with SEC teams. Miller said he's met with officials in Nashville about scheduling Louisville against Alabama, Arkansas or Tennessee. Athletic director Tom Jurich (10) said he's open to playing an SEC team in the Georgia Dome. They've asked ESPN for help in lining up games, too.

The takers are few -- and not just in the SEC. Among the others who have broken contracts with the Cardinals in recent years, according to Miller: Boston College, Georgia Tech, Duke and Texas Tech.

"[Football scheduling] has become the hardest part of my job," Jurich said.

SEC schools are busy filling out their schedules with home games, largely against chumps. So far in 2006 the league has produced exactly one road win against a nonconference opponent from a Big Six league: Vanderbilt over Duke. The Big East owns six road wins over Big Six opponents in 2006.

This is how you preserve the status quo: refuse to play up-and-coming programs, then howl about their allegedly weak schedules.

Answer the bolded section, SEC Fanboys. One road win out of how many teams in the SEC? Didn't think so. To repeat: weakass (which equates to overrated) conference.

Why the hell would someone like Tennessee who already has to play teams like Florida, LSU, etc. want to add a team like Louisville to the schedule? I'll tell you why. We added Cal instead. Give me a break. We can't make all of our non-conference games against highly ranked teams. How about you play in a conference that doesn't suck from top to bottom and then you will understand why you don't schedule every team under the sun.

Also, to add perspective, here is the strength of schedule of the top 3 schools in both conferences based on the CBS Sportsline 119 poll (taken prior to last night's hilarity).

Louisville: Ranked #3 SoS 39
Auburn: Ranked #5 SoS 26
Florida: Ranked #6 SoS 5
West Virginia: Ranked #8 SoS 24
Rutgers: Ranked #10 SoS 63
LSU: Ranked #14 SoS 18

Big East Avg: 42
SEC Avg: 16

Yah, "Weak Ass" Conference. One other thing to note. Last week before WVU and Louisville played they had abyssmal SoS rankings in the 60-90 range depending on where you look. Stop whining about YOUR weak ass conference dude.

I don't even know why I have to defend the SEC. We know we rock and you guys are wannabes. You can't argue with a wannabe. 😛

Waa waa waa. SEC "powerhouse" just got thumped at home by abysmal GEORGIA. Bye bye title hopes. S-E-C is O-v-e-r-r-a-t-e-d.

BTW, try comparing SoS AFTER the end of the season, only morons don't know that the Big East backloaded its conf games for a reason.

And you still didn't respond to the comment: So far in 2006 the league has produced exactly one road win against a nonconference opponent from a Big Six league: Vanderbilt over Duke. The Big East owns six road wins over Big Six opponents in 2006.

Moral of the story: Big East > SEC this year. End of story.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: LS20
texas vs osu for back to back NC... and 2-1 advantage over the buckeyes

That would be incredibly lame to see a rematch of those two teams. I'd rather see USC/Cal (if they can run the table). Or maybe even an SEC team so after they get destroyed they will finally stfu about their weakass conference.

Haha, I always love it when someone from the Big East talks smack about other conferences. Perhaps if you guys learned to play defense (outside of NJ), your conference would get some respect.

I'll accept smacktalk from good conferences...Big 10, fellow SEC folks, and Big 12 South.

And the SEC was too scared to put Big East teams like Louisville on their schedule, you should read up a bit.


The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2652451

The loudest Big East bashing seems to be coming from Southeastern Conference advocates. Here's the funny thing about that: Ask how many SEC teams are willing to schedule Louisville.

The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals.

Kentucky does it more out of rote obligation, satisfying the state's mandate to have its two I-A teams play on an annual basis. The Wildcats are so thrilled about the series that they've cravenly demanded moving the games in Lexington off their traditional season-opening date to a spot later in the calendar, when the matchup will draw less attention.

The other SEC school to step up is Georgia, which has agreed to a two-year home-and-home with Louisville starting in 2010.

Vanderbilt backed out of a contract with the Cards that was to start next year. Everyone else in the SEC has passed at least once on home-and-home overtures from Louisville this century, according to senior associate athletic director Kevin Miller.

It's gotten to the point that Louisville is now offering neutral-site games with SEC teams. Miller said he's met with officials in Nashville about scheduling Louisville against Alabama, Arkansas or Tennessee. Athletic director Tom Jurich (10) said he's open to playing an SEC team in the Georgia Dome. They've asked ESPN for help in lining up games, too.

The takers are few -- and not just in the SEC. Among the others who have broken contracts with the Cardinals in recent years, according to Miller: Boston College, Georgia Tech, Duke and Texas Tech.

"[Football scheduling] has become the hardest part of my job," Jurich said.

SEC schools are busy filling out their schedules with home games, largely against chumps. So far in 2006 the league has produced exactly one road win against a nonconference opponent from a Big Six league: Vanderbilt over Duke. The Big East owns six road wins over Big Six opponents in 2006.

This is how you preserve the status quo: refuse to play up-and-coming programs, then howl about their allegedly weak schedules.

Answer the bolded section, SEC Fanboys. One road win out of how many teams in the SEC? Didn't think so. To repeat: weakass (which equates to overrated) conference.

Many have home/home contracts and this happened to be their year to host. I'll speak to the team I know best: Tennessee has played @ND twice and @Miami in the past 5 years. They will go to Cal to open next season. They have also scheduled series (home/home)with Oklahoma, UCLA and NC State for the next 3 years. In fact UCLA and ND show up on our schedule every 5-7 years.

A Big East team would not make it thru an SEC, Big10, Big12 or Pac10 schedule like they are doing now. They might be able to match up for 1 or 2 games but not a season. Ask Bobby Bowden why he turned down the offer to join the SEC, because he said he would never win a championship playing those teams every year.

First off, it doesn't matter about whose year it is to host. The fact that only Vandy has won on the road shows the SEC is weak this year. Also, UFl is way overrated in the current polls just as we saw Auburn was. The only solid all around team is Ark.

Bringing up Bowden is hilarious, he can't even win in the weak ACC anymore let alone a weak SEC.

 

[Christobevii3]

Big 12 has become a black hole of suckage. Whoever is undefeated in the big 10 will play an sec team with one loss out of the sec championship. If that does not happen, whoever has one loss between usc and notre dame goes. If those two lose somewhere, then rutgers go.

 

[Tom]

Anyone know what state Rutgers is in ?

and is it a real school ?

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Tom
Anyone know what state Rutgers is in ?

and is it a real school ?

NJ, it's one of the best colleges there academically.

 

[thepd7]

The OP is looking more and more like a prophet every week. The computers already have Rutgers at 3. With a big game coming up against WV Rutgers can up themselves in computers and more importantly, coaches/writers if they win out.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: LS20
texas vs osu for back to back NC... and 2-1 advantage over the buckeyes

That would be incredibly lame to see a rematch of those two teams. I'd rather see USC/Cal (if they can run the table). Or maybe even an SEC team so after they get destroyed they will finally stfu about their weakass conference.

Haha, I always love it when someone from the Big East talks smack about other conferences. Perhaps if you guys learned to play defense (outside of NJ), your conference would get some respect.

I'll accept smacktalk from good conferences...Big 10, fellow SEC folks, and Big 12 South.

And the SEC was too scared to put Big East teams like Louisville on their schedule, you should read up a bit.


The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2652451

The loudest Big East bashing seems to be coming from Southeastern Conference advocates. Here's the funny thing about that: Ask how many SEC teams are willing to schedule Louisville.

The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals.

Kentucky does it more out of rote obligation, satisfying the state's mandate to have its two I-A teams play on an annual basis. The Wildcats are so thrilled about the series that they've cravenly demanded moving the games in Lexington off their traditional season-opening date to a spot later in the calendar, when the matchup will draw less attention.

The other SEC school to step up is Georgia, which has agreed to a two-year home-and-home with Louisville starting in 2010.

Vanderbilt backed out of a contract with the Cards that was to start next year. Everyone else in the SEC has passed at least once on home-and-home overtures from Louisville this century, according to senior associate athletic director Kevin Miller.

It's gotten to the point that Louisville is now offering neutral-site games with SEC teams. Miller said he's met with officials in Nashville about scheduling Louisville against Alabama, Arkansas or Tennessee. Athletic director Tom Jurich (10) said he's open to playing an SEC team in the Georgia Dome. They've asked ESPN for help in lining up games, too.

The takers are few -- and not just in the SEC. Among the others who have broken contracts with the Cardinals in recent years, according to Miller: Boston College, Georgia Tech, Duke and Texas Tech.

"[Football scheduling] has become the hardest part of my job," Jurich said.

SEC schools are busy filling out their schedules with home games, largely against chumps. So far in 2006 the league has produced exactly one road win against a nonconference opponent from a Big Six league: Vanderbilt over Duke. The Big East owns six road wins over Big Six opponents in 2006.

This is how you preserve the status quo: refuse to play up-and-coming programs, then howl about their allegedly weak schedules.

Answer the bolded section, SEC Fanboys. One road win out of how many teams in the SEC? Didn't think so. To repeat: weakass (which equates to overrated) conference.

Many have home/home contracts and this happened to be their year to host. I'll speak to the team I know best: Tennessee has played @ND twice and @Miami in the past 5 years. They will go to Cal to open next season. They have also scheduled series (home/home)with Oklahoma, UCLA and NC State for the next 3 years. In fact UCLA and ND show up on our schedule every 5-7 years.

A Big East team would not make it thru an SEC, Big10, Big12 or Pac10 schedule like they are doing now. They might be able to match up for 1 or 2 games but not a season. Ask Bobby Bowden why he turned down the offer to join the SEC, because he said he would never win a championship playing those teams every year.

First off, it doesn't matter about whose year it is to host. The fact that only Vandy has won on the road shows the SEC is weak this year. Also, UFl is way overrated in the current polls just as we saw Auburn was. The only solid all around team is Ark.

Bringing up Bowden is hilarious, he can't even win in the weak ACC anymore let alone a weak SEC.

Are you serious? It has everything to do with what year it is to host. And are you really counting the road wins vs. Indiana, Illinois, UNC, Miss St. and Mid TN St. as examples of the strength of conf? Also, how many wins and MNC does Bowden have? He personally built F$U to the national power it is. A couple of bad years doesn't make him less of a coach, just like a couple of good years makes the Big East any stronger.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: LS20
texas vs osu for back to back NC... and 2-1 advantage over the buckeyes

That would be incredibly lame to see a rematch of those two teams. I'd rather see USC/Cal (if they can run the table). Or maybe even an SEC team so after they get destroyed they will finally stfu about their weakass conference.

Haha, I always love it when someone from the Big East talks smack about other conferences. Perhaps if you guys learned to play defense (outside of NJ), your conference would get some respect.

I'll accept smacktalk from good conferences...Big 10, fellow SEC folks, and Big 12 South.

And the SEC was too scared to put Big East teams like Louisville on their schedule, you should read up a bit.


The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2652451

The loudest Big East bashing seems to be coming from Southeastern Conference advocates. Here's the funny thing about that: Ask how many SEC teams are willing to schedule Louisville.

The number is two. According to the Louisville administration, everyone else in the league has ducked, dodged and squirmed away from games with the Cardinals.

Kentucky does it more out of rote obligation, satisfying the state's mandate to have its two I-A teams play on an annual basis. The Wildcats are so thrilled about the series that they've cravenly demanded moving the games in Lexington off their traditional season-opening date to a spot later in the calendar, when the matchup will draw less attention.

The other SEC school to step up is Georgia, which has agreed to a two-year home-and-home with Louisville starting in 2010.

Vanderbilt backed out of a contract with the Cards that was to start next year. Everyone else in the SEC has passed at least once on home-and-home overtures from Louisville this century, according to senior associate athletic director Kevin Miller.

It's gotten to the point that Louisville is now offering neutral-site games with SEC teams. Miller said he's met with officials in Nashville about scheduling Louisville against Alabama, Arkansas or Tennessee. Athletic director Tom Jurich (10) said he's open to playing an SEC team in the Georgia Dome. They've asked ESPN for help in lining up games, too.

The takers are few -- and not just in the SEC. Among the others who have broken contracts with the Cardinals in recent years, according to Miller: Boston College, Georgia Tech, Duke and Texas Tech.

"[Football scheduling] has become the hardest part of my job," Jurich said.

SEC schools are busy filling out their schedules with home games, largely against chumps. So far in 2006 the league has produced exactly one road win against a nonconference opponent from a Big Six league: Vanderbilt over Duke. The Big East owns six road wins over Big Six opponents in 2006.

This is how you preserve the status quo: refuse to play up-and-coming programs, then howl about their allegedly weak schedules.

Answer the bolded section, SEC Fanboys. One road win out of how many teams in the SEC? Didn't think so. To repeat: weakass (which equates to overrated) conference.

Many have home/home contracts and this happened to be their year to host. I'll speak to the team I know best: Tennessee has played @ND twice and @Miami in the past 5 years. They will go to Cal to open next season. They have also scheduled series (home/home)with Oklahoma, UCLA and NC State for the next 3 years. In fact UCLA and ND show up on our schedule every 5-7 years.

A Big East team would not make it thru an SEC, Big10, Big12 or Pac10 schedule like they are doing now. They might be able to match up for 1 or 2 games but not a season. Ask Bobby Bowden why he turned down the offer to join the SEC, because he said he would never win a championship playing those teams every year.

First off, it doesn't matter about whose year it is to host. The fact that only Vandy has won on the road shows the SEC is weak this year. Also, UFl is way overrated in the current polls just as we saw Auburn was. The only solid all around team is Ark.

Bringing up Bowden is hilarious, he can't even win in the weak ACC anymore let alone a weak SEC.

Are you serious? It has everything to do with what year it is to host. And are you really counting the road wins vs. Indiana, Illinois, UNC, Miss St. and Mid TN St. as examples of the strength of conf? Also, how many wins and MNC does Bowden have? He personally built F$U to the national power it is. A couple of bad years doesn't make him less of a coach, just like a couple of good years makes the Big East any stronger.

One other thing. You cannot point at the South Carolina/Florida game as one that is played under normal circumstances. You have to understand the dynamics of that game to understand why it was close. It's Spurrier man.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Are you serious? It has everything to do with what year it is to host. And are you really counting the road wins vs. Indiana, Illinois, UNC, Miss St. and Mid TN St. as examples of the strength of conf? Also, how many wins and MNC does Bowden have? He personally built F$U to the national power it is. A couple of bad years doesn't make him less of a coach, just like a couple of good years makes the Big East any stronger.

I'll agree with you that the sample size is small, but in order to proclaim that one conference is better than another then the best indicator is top to bottom road performance OOC. The Big East, top to bottom hasn't lost (yes even the worst teams) in 6 tries. From your list above (btw Mid TN St isn't from a Big Six conf), Illinois gave Ohio St a tough game, Indiana upset No.15 Iowa and also beat Ball St/Illinois, and Miss State beat Bama who beat Vandy who beat UGA who just beat Auburn (confused yet?). The road losses of the SEC are Missouri, Michigan, and Louisville. We'll know more on Nov 25th for UF@FSU and SC@Clemson. Top to bottom, it's a decent argument that overall the SEC is weaker than the Big East, especially since there are more teams in the SEC.

Saying a "couple bad years" doesn't make Bowden any less of a coach, have you been in Seminole territory lately? Many diehards are calling for his resignation. I'm not saying historically he's a horrible coach, but he hasn't produced in the present which is all that matters (and FL State fans are frustrated dating back to the Bowl game).

Last, to say that the last 2 successful years won't make the Big East any stronger is naive. Mainly because current recruits in the Northeast who may have thought about going down South or to ND (powerhouses) will now consider WVU, RU, and UL as quality programs with successful coaches in a smaller but very competitive conference (with a BCS bid as well). Hell the trend is already happening, the Boston - DC megalopolis is a hotbed of talent with past quality recruits already blossoming: White (actually from Alabama), Schmitt and Slaton, Rice and Leonard, Brohm (turned down scholarships from USC, Notre Dame, OSU) and M. Bush. And many of the RU defense is from the NE as well.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
One other thing. You cannot point at the South Carolina/Florida game as one that is played under normal circumstances. You have to understand the dynamics of that game to understand why it was close. It's Spurrier man.

That's true b/c of their past. But when you consider raw talent and recruiting, FL is much closer to powerhouse status then S.Car. On paper all the computers care about is ranking, and the fact of the matter is SC is unranked and FL is allegedly a top 5 team, ya know?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
One other thing. You cannot point at the South Carolina/Florida game as one that is played under normal circumstances. You have to understand the dynamics of that game to understand why it was close. It's Spurrier man.

That's true b/c of their past. But when you consider raw talent and recruiting, FL is much closer to powerhouse status then S.Car. On paper all the computers care about is ranking, and the fact of the matter is SC is unranked and FL is allegedly a top 5 team, ya know?

That's part of the problem with computers. They don't measure intangibles. Let's say WVU was undefeated still and they lost a close game to a very good and ranked team. Let's say during that game that Slaton and White were injured, and they will both miss the rest of the season. Most computer polls wouldn't drop them much, whereas the human polls would consider the injuries as having an effect on the rest of their season.

 

[TravisT]

Rutger's won't remain undefeated... if they do, they deserve the opportunity to go meet OSU in the championship game and get their faces smashed in.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
One other thing. You cannot point at the South Carolina/Florida game as one that is played under normal circumstances. You have to understand the dynamics of that game to understand why it was close. It's Spurrier man.

That's true b/c of their past. But when you consider raw talent and recruiting, FL is much closer to powerhouse status then S.Car. On paper all the computers care about is ranking, and the fact of the matter is SC is unranked and FL is allegedly a top 5 team, ya know?

That's part of the problem with computers. They don't measure intangibles. Let's say WVU was undefeated still and they lost a close game to a very good and ranked team. Let's say during that game that Slaton and White were injured, and they will both miss the rest of the season. Most computer polls wouldn't drop them much, whereas the human polls would consider the injuries as having an effect on the rest of their season.

Yeah, kinda like UF losing DT Thomas. The computers still think UF is a top 8 team. Can't wait for the Ark/UF game till they are exposed.

SCar may be better than their ranking suggests, they've come oh so close but couldn't finish.

 

[Mermaidman]

Originally posted by: TravisT
Rutger's won't remain undefeated... if they do, they deserve the opportunity to go meet OSU in the championship game and get their faces smashed in.

Darn it, I wanted to see some face smashing.

 

[b0mbrman]

🙁

Rutgers is on its way out