Heh, speak like a true politician....and I thought Obama and his people is gonna be any different.
Heh, speak like a true politician....and I thought Obama and his people is gonna be any different.
I agree with you. I think this is the death knell. Anything else would be a nail in the coffin, nonetheless he can't win.
This what scares me about Obama. So many of his supporters are willing to give him a pass and/or defend him on any and everything. It reminds me of all the people who thought Bush could do nothing wrong no matter what he did and tha's just scary.
First, that's not what she said. Second, racist whackjob pastors are gathering around McCain and he's happily courting them.
palehorse
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LOL! I hope you clowns realize that Obama still has the nomination pretty well locked up. The timing of this "issue" also allows Obama plenty of time to change the subject between now and April 22nd -- remember, the standard news-cycles usually dont last weeks, let alone more than one month.
You hillary fanbois and dittoheads had better come with something bigger than this if you plan to steal the nomination...
I'm talking about in November. He can still get the Dem nomination. If he does win nomination, in October/November this pastor's video is going to get blasted in national TV ads. Obama cannot win. Sorry dems your savior ended up being a dud.
Talk radio would be the absolute last place to listen if you are trying to get a real view of what is going on.
I mean it. Read expert analysis first, then read newspapers with investigative reporting, then read USA today, then watch TV news, then look on the internet, then listen to your crazy uncle Jimmy, followed by FOX news, and then talk radio.
It can be enjoyable to listen to if you want to get riled up about something, but everyone must know that talk radio is the refuge of the crazies on both sides. If you ever want a great example of what kind of audience they pull, listen to the Ed Shultz (sp?) show sometime. He lets anyone call in and he doesn't screen the calls... so you really do hear just how insane half the people who listen actually are.
EXman
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Well if a guy running on his JUDGEMENT alone with very little else even on the public record, shows so little of it you are foolish not to realize who this guy is associating himself with. The guy is running for president not the local school board or president of your condo association.
Not to mention the I head one or two statements in 20 years is statistically improbable. What is your conclusion?
Heeeellllllooooooooooooooo?
Here's a hint: Anyone attempting to predict with certainty the results of a US presidential election 9 months away is being stupid.
I think that you are confusing two people working together toward a common goal that benefits everyone around them with pandering to someone to get them to convince everyone else to work towards your own selfish goal.
Who is giving anyone a pass? rchiu made what he thought was a factual statement and I corrected it.
I am an Obama supporter and I have no problems stating where and when I think that he has messed up. rchiu quoted Obama and then made an assertion about the quote that was not accurate and that is what I was addressing. Nothing more, nothing less.
jonks
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Did he name his book after one of their speeches? Did he attend their church for 20 years? Did they baptize any of his children? Did any of them "bring him to Christ"? Did any of them perform any of his wedding ceremonies?
Pandering during election year != Choosing to embrace for decades in personal life
Vic
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Right.... like how your hero Billary claims "experience" because she hosted White House luncheons. Or how she claims to be against NAFTA and free trade to China when Bill sponsored and signed both those bills!
You know what I find scary? That you actually believe the crap you post.
Vic
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You hacks are comical, arguing your pathetic little political teams still while Bush's economy crumbles, and pretending you're still fighting the great conservative battle against socialism while Bush did more to socialize this country's economy and strengthen the federal govt than any president in US history. Maybe someday we can hope you'll wake to reality rather than rhetoric.
No one is going to care about Obama's pastor in November.
EXman
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She wasn't REALLYproud of her country when:
We landed on the Moon.
Civil rights movement made huge gains for her own people.
We single handedly out spent the USSR making them have to tear down the wall.
Liberated Kuwait.
Give Billions to Africa for aids research/and drugs. (Oh I just realized that might be a bad one as her pastor believes that whitey made that.)
I guess she was sort of proud?
C'mon
OrByte
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imho the most important part of his speech is as follows:
In the end, then, what is called for is nothing more, and nothing less, than what all the world's great religions demand -- that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. Let us be our brother's keeper, Scripture tells us. Let us be our sister's keeper. Let us find that common stake we all have in one another, and let our politics reflect that spirit as well.
who give's a rat's ass about what his pastor says given the fact that Obama has come out and universally denounced those poor messages delivered by his pastor. Obama did an excellent job painting the race issue as more complex than the simple minded thinking of his opponents. He goes into detail as to why the pastor represents both the good, and the bad of black america. He also goes on to explain how white america has legitimate racial concerns, his OWN GRANDMOTHER used racial slurs and was afraid to walk on the same side of the street as black men. He is describing us all to the "T." Like Moonbeam says all too often, we are so afraid to see whats in the mirror.
His analogy to the boxing ring is particularly spot on...if we retreat back to our corners after this latest racial issue, there will be no chance for change. You people that cannot see beyond the words of his pastor have given no chance for change. What are you so afraid of? that Obama is right???
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