Banned from Nvidia Forums by Chris Ray (Update: Situation Resolved, Mistaken Identity)

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: gsellis
By your standard, the PS/3 is not released because you cannot get one at Best Buy...

By your standard, 1980s G.I. Joe action figures aren't released because... hey you know what, this is a stupid argument!

:roll:

There's a big difference between releasing something to a very specific and limited group of people, and publicly releasing a product. Kind of like how Anandtech is able to get their hands on final silicon for review before the rest of us can play with it. See where I'm going with this?

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: gsellis

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Vista is not yet released. I repeat, Vista is not yet released. Just because some niche market got their hands on a few copies does not make it an actual product.

Yes, it IS released. nVidia has been able to have prod copies for a month now. I have a copy of GA Ultimate and Home Premium. nVidia was able to get it before I was. Can you buy it at Newegg? No, but it is released.

By your standard, the PS/3 is not released because you cannot get one at Best Buy...

I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying, but AbAbber2k put it perfectly.

Maybe it's my fault. Perhaps I forgot to put the word "officially" in there as that would further explain my definition of a product.

And yes, PS3 is not released

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: gsellis

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Vista is not yet released. I repeat, Vista is not yet released. Just because some niche market got their hands on a few copies does not make it an actual product.

Yes, it IS released. nVidia has been able to have prod copies for a month now. I have a copy of GA Ultimate and Home Premium. nVidia was able to get it before I was. Can you buy it at Newegg? No, but it is released.

By your standard, the PS/3 is not released because you cannot get one at Best Buy...

I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying, but AbAbber2k put it perfectly.

Maybe it's my fault. Perhaps I forgot to put the word "officially" in there as that would further explain my definition of a product.

And yes, PS3 is not released

It is officially released. It is not available over the counter. I have, as does nVidia, Dell, etc., the prod code. Funny thing is that I have not installed it as my non-linear editor does not support it yet (I found a problem with the last postRC and a feature I use). So, I have not install GA on my XP build yet.

BTW, ChrisRay. Nice post and followup on the issue of mistaken multiple accounts. For the record, sounds like AT is even tougher than you are.

 

[Nelsieus]

Originally posted by: apopin
and the burden of proof is usually on the accused

Oh really? I bet you wouldn't be saying that if someone accused you of being an ATI shill, now would you?

Originally posted by: gsellis
By your standard, the PS/3 is not released because you cannot get one at Best Buy...

Availability and release are two different things. The PS3 release / launched in November (and you can actually find them at BB now, just FYI).

Vista is set to release on Jan. 30.

By your standard, the PS3 was released as soon as developers got their SDK in 2005 / early 2006.

Originally posted by: gsellisIt is officially released. It is not available over the counter.

RTM is not an official release. The official release to consumers is Jan. 30. Microsoft has stated that as has nVidia. And no matter how much you tout otherwise, it's not going to change it.

Nelsieus

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Read the thread I linked carefully avalon. According to what ChrisRay has told us in his post above, terpsi is the "person" who has been impersonating ChrisRay on multiple forums, trying to blacken nvidia's name (amongst other "endeavours").

EDIT: linked wrong thread by accident Text

Don't tell me what to do. I know how to read. YOU linked me the wrong thread. YOUR fault, not mine.

It was an unintentional mistake caused by choosing the wrong browser window. (not that I should have to point out such a thread to people anyway - those who claim to be informed should already be aware).

 

[Gstanfor]

Oh and one other thing. It's common knowledge that M$ volume licence key servers responsible for validating certain versions of vista were compromised (someone created created a virtual pc image of one of the servers and it is now doing the rounds of the pirates), so claiming to own Vista Corporate at the moment is no proof of anything (other than piracy IMHO).

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: RobertR1

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: Creig
I find it ironic that they're banning people for registering under multiple accounts when one of the Moderators (Brian_S) is none other than Rollo who has been banned twice from the AnandTech forums. The second time was for creating the account Fallenangell after being banned the first time.

But I guess it's okay if HE does it. :roll:

Of course creig - Rollo was absolutely notorious for running around different forums posing as Digital Wanderer or WaltC or RobertR1 or Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. and slagging off Ati in their name, wasn't he?

Oh wait...

I seriously wonder how you have managed not to get yourself banned yet.

Miss me???

No, but the forum mods might not miss your posting style... I've been keeping track of your posts in the video forum...

So you're attempting to provoke me initially with your mention of my name associated with Rollo and then taking my reply as using it to "report me"? wow.......... I'm sure the mods love your attempts.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: Nelsieus

Originally posted by: apopin
and the burden of proof is usually on the accused

Oh really? I bet you wouldn't be saying that if someone accused you of being an ATI shill, now would you?

Originally posted by: gsellis
By your standard, the PS/3 is not released because you cannot get one at Best Buy...

Availability and release are two different things. The PS3 release / launched in November (and you can actually find them at BB now, just FYI).

Vista is set to release on Jan. 30.

By your standard, the PS3 was released as soon as developers got their SDK in 2005 / early 2006.

Originally posted by: gsellisIt is officially released. It is not available over the counter.

RTM is not an official release. The official release to consumers is Jan. 30. Microsoft has stated that as has nVidia. And no matter how much you tout otherwise, it's not going to change it.

Nelsieus

Vista Business is shipping from what I remember. That started around Dec 1. It is ordered through Microsoft resellers.

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Oh and one other thing. It's common knowledge that M$ volume licence key servers responsible for validating certain versions of vista were compromised (someone created created a virtual pc image of one of the servers and it is now doing the rounds of the pirates), so claiming to own Vista Corporate at the moment is no proof of anything (other than piracy IMHO).

On what factual basis do you base your opinion ? Support your assertion with some sort of fact... rather than making baseless accusations, or insinuations.

The units that were handed out at the informational meetings require phone verification, and activation of any additional installations other than the original. You then receive a CD key and License in the Mail after paying for the appropriate license fee.

They do not use the activation method that you are talking about.


If you call people out for Piracy... you had damn well better know what you are talking about. Or keep your opinions your own.

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: ChrisRay
I would like to point out. That the "AEG" you all are referring too. No longer exists. As a matter of fact. I have been working directly with Nvidia for about a year now. AEG has been gone for a long time. Working directly with Nvidia has been far more rewarding because it has allowed me to help users on the slizone forums. Which I devote a tremendous amount of resources too. Gives me now direct access to the driver team for feedback and bug reporting. As well as all the channels I need to get questions answered for people who are having problems quickly.

Chris

It doesnt exist now but you did operate under it, says a lot about you and your colleagues huh? :laugh:

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Nelsieus

Originally posted by: ronnn
So Nvidia has just hired their ex Aeg focus group members. Some focus group! Now we have ex-focus group members posting big time on B3D, wonder if they are on direct pay roll now? This crap will kill any integrity of these sites.

If you haven't noticed, there's plenty of fanATIcs out there too. Even if they're not working for someone or getting paid, a troll is a troll.

Nelsieus

A self selecting troll is one thing. A paid expert mole is another. Anyways so much for other aeg members being embarrassed by Rollo. That group is pathetic and should just continue their posts about how customer orientated nvidia is. If you find an amd mole, I will say the same about them.

 

[DeathReborn]

Vista Business/Corporate are not intended for Joe Public but for Businesses & Corporations. It has been released but isn't intended to run 8800/R600 cards. If you intend to use these for gaming etc you are just trying to get ahead of the game & not entitled to complain about lack of drivers for something brand new.

Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, Ultimate are intended for the Enthusiasts, Housewives, Kids, Gamers etc and are not legally buyable until Microsoft allows it. That date has not yet arrived so therefore it has NOT been released.

I can say the PS3 hasn't been released but that's because I am in Europe.

If Vista 8800 drivers aren't available come the 1st of February then you could complain about it. For now there is no reason to complain since you haven't BOUGHT your copy of Vista.

As for the OP, mistaken identity happens and at least both you and Chris have the capacity to show humilty & understanding.

 

[secretanchitman]

whatever. just hold on until the consumer can buy vista. then im SURE you'll have drivers.

just go back to xp if you want gaming performance at its maximum. it'll sure blow anything vista will have on xp since vista uses more gpu this time around.

 

[josh6079]

AEG has been gone for a long time. Working directly with Nvidia has been far more rewarding because it has allowed me to help users on the slizone forums. Which I devote a tremendous amount of resources too. Gives me now direct access to the driver team for feedback and bug reporting. As well as all the channels I need to get questions answered for people who are having problems quickly.

Splinter Cell - Double Agent needs tremendous attention with nVidia's driver team. And it's already "released", has been for about a month and a half now.

If you could, look over the complaints expressed here for more details. I and several other nVidia owners would greatly appreciate some fixes.

 

[BFG10K]

Reports seem to indicate that Splinter Cell has been fixed on 97.92 so give those a try if you haven't already done so.

 

[jim1976]

It is a sad phenomenon seeing ppl posting about Chris Ray like this..
WTF is going on with you ppl? I mean I could understand your opinion if you were talking about Trollo or ignorant fanatic kids that just don't have a clue about "things"..
But seeing ppl accuse knowledgeable individuals that are directly/indirectly related to Nvidia or ATI just because it is a trend lately as if they have done anything to you is just pathetic in my eyes..
I'm just wondering how many ppl inside here visit B3D and have watched Chris Ray,Baumann,Ailuros and a bunch of other kids from either side expressing their opinions. Have you actually sat EVEN ONE TIME to observe a conversation over there? Can any of you point me to an ignorant/fanatic/misinformed post of Chris or many of those ppl that you accuse so easily ?
I do agree that viral marketing isn't the epitome of objectiveness, and it was really bad that they had kept this as a secret for such a long time until the truth has came to the surface.. BUT FFS do you know how much some of those members have helped the internet community over the last years in different ways? Do you actually believe that having a conversation with a "random" guy at any forum can help you more than discussing or to take it even further learning from those that you accuse so easily? Or it just happens that you have just heard about some guys that were in a viral program and you just stepped in to state your opinion w/o having serious feedback about their identity? :disgust: I couldn't care less if Chris is an ex AEG member or works for Nvidia as long as his posts don't depict fanatism and can actually help me learn some stuff. FFS these ppl actually KNOW SO MUCH MORE than many of you and from my experience they NEVER saw uninformed/misinformed/nOObs with an ironic eye.They are always trying to make a polite objective conversation w/o posting BS.. After all EVEN if they were subjective don't you ppl have judgement to filter useless posts ?

As for this topic I do believe that it was Chris mistake that he didn't check things correctly. It's his job after all now, and he should not have jumped to conclusions that easily. But I do understand him from one POV, since he gets attacked or slandered by some individuals lately and has seen posted the same thing SO MANY TIMES over there for which matter actually he is actively trying to inform ppl from his sources at Nvidia.. He is just human afterall let's not forget that. And his quality as an individual is depicted in the part that he apologizes for his mistake in a DIFFERENT public forum and not in the one he works.

Chris you don't need me saying that but keep up the good work man and always remain helpful as you are till this day.. We need ppl like you in the net, don't let FUD discourage you

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
Reports seem to indicate that Splinter Cell has been fixed on 97.92 so give those a try if you haven't already done so.

Yep I can turn high detail shaders on with the 97.92 drivers but when I enable high detail shaders I am getting loads of shimmering(no shimmering with just HDR and AF on). And trying to play with HDR+AA gives lots of artifacts(you have to do a workaround to even get it working) in certain levels.

 

[palindrome]

Originally posted by: ChrisRay
I would like to point out. That the "AEG" you all are referring too. No longer exists. As a matter of fact. I have been working directly with Nvidia for about a year now. AEG has been gone for a long time. Working directly with Nvidia has been far more rewarding because it has allowed me to help users on the slizone forums. Which I devote a tremendous amount of resources too. Gives me now direct access to the driver team for feedback and bug reporting. As well as all the channels I need to get questions answered for people who are having problems quickly.

Chris

How much did AEG pay you to say that?

 

[palindrome]

I got banned on the Abit forums for challenging the MODs to answer me as to why there has been ZERO support for the AT8 32X after the first bios revision back in May of 06. This was after they ignored my threads and PMs for 2 weeks. (Note: these MODs actively participated in the forums)

On top of that, after I emailed the MOD who had his email publically displayed in his profile, he threatened to press charges for harassment. I didn't use profanity and I didn't spam him.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: jim1976
It is a sad phenomenon seeing ppl posting about Chris Ray like this..
WTF is going on with you ppl? I mean I could understand your opinion if you were talking about Trollo or ignorant fanatic kids that just don't have a clue about "things"..
But seeing ppl accuse knowledgeable individuals that are directly/indirectly related to Nvidia or ATI just because it is a trend lately as if they have done anything to you is just pathetic in my eyes..
I'm just wondering how many ppl inside here visit B3D and have watched Chris Ray,Baumann,Ailuros and a bunch of other kids from either side expressing their opinions. Have you actually sat EVEN ONE TIME to observe a conversation over there? Can any of you point me to an ignorant/fanatic/misinformed post of Chris or many of those ppl that you accuse so easily ?
I do agree that viral marketing isn't the epitome of objectiveness, and it was really bad that they had kept this as a secret for such a long time until the truth has came to the surface.. BUT FFS do you know how much some of those members have helped the internet community over the last years in different ways? Do you actually believe that having a conversation with a "random" guy at any forum can help you more than discussing or to take it even further learning from those that you accuse so easily? Or it just happens that you have just heard about some guys that were in a viral program and you just stepped in to state your opinion w/o having serious feedback about their identity? :disgust: I couldn't care less if Chris is an ex AEG member or works for Nvidia as long as his posts don't depict fanatism and can actually help me learn some stuff. FFS these ppl actually KNOW SO MUCH MORE than many of you and from my experience they NEVER saw uninformed/misinformed/nOObs with an ironic eye.They are always trying to make a polite objective conversation w/o posting BS.. After all EVEN if they were subjective don't you ppl have judgement to filter useless posts ?

As for this topic I do believe that it was Chris mistake that he didn't check things correctly. It's his job after all now, and he should not have jumped to conclusions that easily. But I do understand him from one POV, since he gets attacked or slandered by some individuals lately and has seen posted the same thing SO MANY TIMES over there for which matter actually he is actively trying to inform ppl from his sources at Nvidia.. He is just human afterall let's not forget that. And his quality as an individual is depicted in the part that he apologizes for his mistake in a DIFFERENT public forum and not in the one he works.

Chris you don't need me saying that but keep up the good work man and always remain helpful as you are till this day.. We need ppl like you in the net, don't let FUD discourage you

QFT 100%.

:thumbsup:

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: jim1976
It is a sad phenomenon seeing ppl posting about Chris Ray like this..
WTF is going on with you ppl? I mean I could understand your opinion if you were talking about Trollo or ignorant fanatic kids that just don't have a clue about "things"..
But seeing ppl accuse knowledgeable individuals that are directly/indirectly related to Nvidia or ATI just because it is a trend lately as if they have done anything to you is just pathetic in my eyes..
I'm just wondering how many ppl inside here visit B3D and have watched Chris Ray,Baumann,Ailuros and a bunch of other kids from either side expressing their opinions. Have you actually sat EVEN ONE TIME to observe a conversation over there? Can any of you point me to an ignorant/fanatic/misinformed post of Chris or many of those ppl that you accuse so easily ?
I do agree that viral marketing isn't the epitome of objectiveness, and it was really bad that they had kept this as a secret for such a long time until the truth has came to the surface.. BUT FFS do you know how much some of those members have helped the internet community over the last years in different ways? Do you actually believe that having a conversation with a "random" guy at any forum can help you more than discussing or to take it even further learning from those that you accuse so easily? Or it just happens that you have just heard about some guys that were in a viral program and you just stepped in to state your opinion w/o having serious feedback about their identity? :disgust: I couldn't care less if Chris is an ex AEG member or works for Nvidia as long as his posts don't depict fanatism and can actually help me learn some stuff. FFS these ppl actually KNOW SO MUCH MORE than many of you and from my experience they NEVER saw uninformed/misinformed/nOObs with an ironic eye.They are always trying to make a polite objective conversation w/o posting BS.. After all EVEN if they were subjective don't you ppl have judgement to filter useless posts ?

As for this topic I do believe that it was Chris mistake that he didn't check things correctly. It's his job after all now, and he should not have jumped to conclusions that easily. But I do understand him from one POV, since he gets attacked or slandered by some individuals lately and has seen posted the same thing SO MANY TIMES over there for which matter actually he is actively trying to inform ppl from his sources at Nvidia.. He is just human afterall let's not forget that. And his quality as an individual is depicted in the part that he apologizes for his mistake in a DIFFERENT public forum and not in the one he works.

Chris you don't need me saying that but keep up the good work man and always remain helpful as you are till this day.. We need ppl like you in the net, don't let FUD discourage you

None of us care if Chris Ray has his sig clearly marked as being a Nvidia employee and he never posts in a thread clearly labeled r600 (or anything else by the competition). Actually neither of these are true. These guys are viral marketers and if you chose to believe anything they say, well that is your prerogative.

 

[ChrisRay]

Keep up the good work Chris and don't waste your time here man. Too much trolling going on without any control whatsoever. See you around dude...

It's ok. I understand that alot of people here are dubious of me. And considering all things I dont blame some of them. I'm not looking for an argument though. You cant change someones opinion in a day. I know alot of people here are angry. Like everybody I have made mistakes in my time. This mis ban was just one of them. I'm sure I'll make more in the future too. I'm not above them as I am certainly human and I will fess up to the ones I make.

I enjoy playing an active role in the community. Helping people when I can, and providing unique perspective on certain topics through investigative work, and assisting users on the SLIZone forums. Having the capability of getting through to the driver team and working directly with Nvidia is an asset IMO. And I can handle some negative criticism for that if neccasary. Because I still believe I am doing more good than I am bad with the work I am doing and helping with.

Chris

 

[Cookie Monster]

Chris there are some of us who really understand your effort to the IT community and we support you 100% for your comittment.

You gain my respect and i wish that i could one day be in your position. (or a part of a engineering team in ATi or nVIDIA).

But im still a long way off.

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: ronnn
None of us care if Chris Ray has his sig clearly marked as being a Nvidia employee and he never posts in a thread clearly labeled r600 (or anything else by the competition). Actually neither of these are true. These guys are viral marketers and if you chose to believe anything they say, well that is your prerogative.

Ronn I consider you a rational individual w/o "strange" attachments and fanatism..

All I'm saying is that some of those ppl that they are so easily accused, have actually helped the forums community a lot over the last years.. Through discussions and feedback@ B3D or articles they post from time to time provide us with valuable information. I'm expecting at least from individuals like you to understand that, and judge them accordingly not just by their previous identity. I mean why should I care if Chris or anyone else is working at Nvidia for example as long as he doesn't "dare" me with doubtful posts and opinions? All I can remember is their valuable knowledge and feedback and their effort to help ppl.
Besides that as I said IF you believe that some of their opinions are biased or wrong all you have to do is filter those out, it's not that hard to distinguish a troll after all. We all from time to time express opinions of subjective nature even if we don't consider ourselves fans of either side. But that doesn't negate the fact that we shouldn't judge those ppl only by their AEG agenda w/o having a proper picture of their personality and actions. This would make us ignorant and subjective.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: jim1976

Ronn I consider you a rational individual w/o "strange" attachments and fanatism..

All I'm saying is that some of those ppl that they are so easily accused, have actually helped the forums community a lot over the last years.. Through discussions and feedback@ B3D or articles they post from time to time provide us with valuable information. I'm expecting at least from individuals like you to understand that, and judge them accordingly not just by their previous identity. I mean why should I care if Chris or anyone else is working at Nvidia for example as long as he doesn't "dare" me with doubtful posts and opinions? All I can remember is their valuable knowledge and feedback and their effort to help ppl.
Besides that as I said IF you believe that some of their opinions are biased or wrong all you have to do is filter those out, it's not that hard to distinguish a troll after all. We all from time to time express opinions of subjective nature even if we don't consider ourselves fans of either side. But that doesn't negate the fact that we shouldn't judge those ppl only by their AEG agenda w/o having a proper picture of their personality and actions. This would make us ignorant and subjective.

They are not being accused of anything. They came out and stated they were part of a secret nvidia focus group. Chris Ray now states he works for Nvidia and being a forum moderator with Rollo also being a moderator. (I admit to judging people by the company they keep). Likely the other 2 that came out also work for Nvidia. They post big time in other forums - pimping Nvidia - while spreading fud about Ati. I must admit to not seeing Chris Ray spread fud (he does seem the most honest of a poor bunch) - but he does pimp nvidia in threads dedicated to ati cards. Their collective job is to sell nvidia cards, which is nice, but I really don't completely trust any sales people. They have a living to make. When I want to research image quality - I avoid Chris Ray, Nivida and Ati - and let real investigative journalists do their job. They can interview Nvidia and Ati - than do some tests - and write a nice article.