Audiophiles can't tell the difference between Monster Cable and coat hangers.

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: rockyct
Well, at least this is better than headphone audiophiles paying $500 for a power cable for their amplifier. That's right a six foot cord between the outlet and the amp.

Whatever next? You own dedicated generation, transmission, and distribution line?

A wind farm + solar farm + battery farm means you are off the grid and not influenced by your neighbour's fridge and hair dryer....

 

[rivan]

I bet they were Monster Coat Hangers. $120 for a pack of 4.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: QueBert
one thing I like about Monster Cables, they're incredibly easy to bend and route. I have their pro series audio amp kit cables running for my car stereo. No other brand I looked at had the same quality. It's like they're made out of silly putty how easy it is to bend them and get them to go where you want. Sound any better? nope not at all, but was worth the $200 IMO for how greatly they helped make the install that much easier, and it look cleaner than I could have done with generics. No other brand with the exception of the Kicker, which cost about the same would have given me the same results.

some of us are ummm... superficial? haha that's why I pay 12 bucks for a SATA cable that should be $3, just because it has a nicer look I spend more. It sucks to be superficial

Into what vehicle was it installed?

a Ford Taurus, and to Turin39789 if it's just 18 gauge wire padded to look like 0, shit shouldn't something have blown up by now? 1,200 watts on 18 gauge ain't gonna be pretty

If you overclock your alternator so it puts out 240V all you need is 5 amps, and 18 gauge can handle that

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: rockyct
Well, at least this is better than headphone audiophiles paying $500 for a power cable for their amplifier. That's right a six foot cord between the outlet and the amp.

I read an article once about special audiophile volume knobs that cost $200 each. They were tuned to perfection or whatever. What a load of crap.

Being an "audiophile" would be one of the worst curses ever, IMO. It would take so much joy out of my life to be so unable to enjoy music 99% of the time.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Monster Cable Z1 series speaker wire
This is what I use. The higher end Z series monster cables (Z2, Z3, Z4, ect.) use basically the same design, but the outer jackets become more expensive along with the connectors. I needed a heavy duty cable for long runs. And in a long run, the Z1 cable sounds noticeably better with greater clarity and definition than a standard cheapo 16 gauge speaker wire. You can hear improved bass and treble using these speaker cables. And for surround use you can hear improved dialoge and imaging. Most noticable is the fact it is a louder cable at the same volume levels on the reciever versus cheapo 16 gauge especially using 20 foot plus runs. It is also heavily shielded and insulated which is important if you have a lot of video and audio cables running side by side out of the reciever.

There are vastly more expensive cables made than Monster Cable. I can't quite figure out what all the Monster hate is about, other than the fact some pricey retail outlets choose to sell the cables at the suggested retail price. That does not mean you can't get Monster for a LOT less elsewhere. Why not rag more on the shady retail sellers for not lowering the retail price of the cables in the first place? I never paid retail for a single Monster Cable I ever bought. Usually I pay 1/4 to 1/3 of the retail cost just buying it on Ebay or some volume internet discounter out there. I bought a 250 foot spool of Z1 for long runs for about 50 cents a foot, brand new! That's $2 less per foot than the retail price. And at that price point, there simply is not a better speaker cable made of that quality for that price. Even the short Z1 runs I bought for the speaker mains never exceeded $1 a foot, including the gold plated connectors.

I also use these for both of my subwoofers on my 2 HT systems: Zbass100 Audiophile Powered Subwoofer Interconnect I did have a bit of trouble finding these cheap, since they were hard to find in the first place, and ended up paying about half retail price at $50 each for 12 foot runs. I had cheaper sub cables hooked up before, and the change of sub cables were not only noticable, I had to completely recalibrate my subs for them! But don't take my word for it. The simple fact is you can't possibly know what you are talking about when you trash their overall cable quality and retail price, unless you try it and hear it for yourself.

Additionally, concerning the Monster Power Bars they also work, as advertised. Even the low end Monster stuff like this can clean up most of the noise you would otherwise hear running from your AC power. I used to have a lot of line noise which was virtually eliminated using just the stage 2 power bars. Of course, you can pay $1500 retail and get the stage 5 stuff, too. Or just shop around a bit and find it for 1/3 off, or more.

For the quality you are buying with the lifetime warranty on cables and $250,000 equipment insurance on the power equipment with a 5 year warranty, you can only go wrong by buying some other cheap brand that might not be around to honor their warranty when the lightning surge takes out your entire HT.

So anyone spouting off here about how you don't get what you pay for with a Monster Cable has obviously not had a high quality cable in the first place to compare it to. And they also most likely can't figure out shopping on the internet well enough to not pay retail for it, when they need to buy it. I am sure for most people the cheapest Monoprice quality level works just fine. Just keep in mind not everyone is trying to hook up the cheapest made consumer products with the cheapest Monoprice cables. On something electronic of high quality at the higher end of the price range, you very well might notice various problems with the cheapest cables you can buy. And even Monoprice has cables for the same applications at different price points. Why do you think that is, hmmm? But if you do buy cheap, and it works fine for you, that's just great, too. Just don't be dense enough to actually pretend you always get what you pay for when you pay cents instead of dollars for every product you buy. It obviously just don't work that way. Even at Monoprice.

We have a winner! Than you for propping up Monster Cable so we have something to point at and laugh.

On a more serious note, You are better off to get 12GA server power cables, cut off the plugs and use that as a thick speaker cable. A hell lot sturdier and cheaper than Monster Cable since most companies have untold number of power cables that are not used at all.

edited for typo.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Monster Cable Z1 series speaker wire
This is what I use. The higher end Z series monster cables (Z2, Z3, Z4, ect.) use basically the same design, but the outer jackets become more expensive along with the connectors. I needed a heavy duty cable for long runs. And in a long run, the Z1 cable sounds noticeably better with greater clarity and definition than a standard cheapo 16 gauge speaker wire. You can hear improved bass and treble using these speaker cables. And for surround use you can hear improved dialoge and imaging. Most noticable is the fact it is a louder cable at the same volume levels on the reciever versus cheapo 16 gauge especially using 20 foot plus runs. It is also heavily shielded and insulated which is important if you have a lot of video and audio cables running side by side out of the reciever.

Audiophiles always say meaningless crap like that. Those statements are idiotic. If you hear a difference between lamp cord and monster cable, then you diddn't hook them up correctly. And where does that cable say it's shielded?

The only good thing about Monster Cables is that you can abuse the crap out of them, break them, then get a replacement. Thats it.

some really beleive the hype. since one guy says they are great and they can tell the diffrnece then he has to. that way he is a ELITE audophile and knows about this stuff and we don't.

I guess these guys skipped Han Christian Andersen's "The Emperor's New Cloth".

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Monster Cable is sold at something like $5 to the store for even the most expensive ones, right? Maybe $10 for longer lengths? Then they're sold for $80 or whatever is asked.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2152053

 

[Gibson486]

Monster cables are not worth the premium, but at the same time, most people who call themselves audiophiles are not really audiophiles at all.

 

[skace]

Why are you guys knocking audiophiles in regards to monster cable? Most audiophiles would laugh at even the mention of Monster.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: skace
Why are you guys knocking audiophiles in regards to monster cable? Most audiophiles would laugh at even the mention of Monster.

you are right.


but you get some like slicksnake that buy into the marketing and think they are elite audiophiles

 

[rockyct]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: rockyct
Well, at least this is better than headphone audiophiles paying $500 for a power cable for their amplifier. That's right a six foot cord between the outlet and the amp.

Whatever next? You own dedicated generation, transmission, and distribution line?

A wind farm + solar farm + battery farm means you are off the grid and not influenced by your neighbour's fridge and hair dryer....

I think solar power and batteries would create a pretty dirty AC sine wave. However, I don't think it would be above them to buy special amplifiers that would run off of 36V DC or something like that. Sadly, that would not surprise me in the least if some people did that.

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Monster Cable Z1 series speaker wire
This is what I use. The higher end Z series monster cables (Z2, Z3, Z4, ect.) use basically the same design, but the outer jackets become more expensive along with the connectors. I needed a heavy duty cable for long runs. And in a long run, the Z1 cable sounds noticeably better with greater clarity and definition than a standard cheapo 16 gauge speaker wire. You can hear improved bass and treble using these speaker cables. And for surround use you can hear improved dialoge and imaging. Most noticable is the fact it is a louder cable at the same volume levels on the reciever versus cheapo 16 gauge especially using 20 foot plus runs. It is also heavily shielded and insulated which is important if you have a lot of video and audio cables running side by side out of the reciever.

Audiophiles always say meaningless crap like that. Those statements are idiotic. If you hear a difference between lamp cord and monster cable, then you diddn't hook them up correctly. And where does that cable say it's shielded?

The only good thing about Monster Cables is that you can abuse the crap out of them, break them, then get a replacement. Thats it.

Hardly meaningless. Compared to the other cables I was using before, there was a noticable difference in all the above, however slight, on the surrounds. After I used them, I had to recalibrate my HT surrounds. Just like the sub cables made a noticable bass volume difference, and I had to recalibrate that. But on the short 6 foot runs to the mains the difference was not as noticable using Z1, volume wise, anyway.

It's obviously hard to quantify the difference with a simple statement, like it sounds better, but it did on the surrounds. The difference was there, and it was as I described it. If I had to put a percentage on it, perhaps a 15-20% improvement in the surrounds both volume wise and imaging. The midrange seemed to be more clear and less muddy when it was localized in the surrounds. It was enough so that it was noticably louder using the Z1 series versus 16 guage at the same HT settings. But obviously, if I am using it for the surrounds, I will also want Z1 for the mains, too.

Of course, when someone is using crappy components and speakers, you may not notice the difference at all with Z1 over distances, compared to a cheap, thin lamp cord. It seems kind of juvenile to spend 1000s on a high quality HT and then be a complete cheapskate on the main link between the amp and the speakers. Just because you can't personally hear or figure out the advanced physics of electrical conductivity as a valid reason for using a quality speaker wire that can handle the extremely fast fluctuations of the ohms and watts running to a speaker using high wattage loads. I know for a fact my speakers and amp can handle and produce 2 ohm loads that will fry most amps and speakers at high volumes.

Some of the energy that is sent to the speaker is actually wasted and unused and is then sent briefly back into the wires which can also make the difference between a blown amp, speaker, or both. And latent amp and speaker distortion can amplify this effect dramatically. I would much rather drive my HT at high volume knowing the speaker wire can adequately handle the varying load without causing problems. And I also kind of doubt that running a high powered amp with a short coat hanger for a wire would work for very long at any sort of high volume before it burned out the speakers and amp, and for the reasons listed above.

But hey, when you HT n00bs post later in audio and video about burned out amps and speakers running thin lamp cord or coat hangers, don't ask for my advice.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: rockyct

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: rockyct
Well, at least this is better than headphone audiophiles paying $500 for a power cable for their amplifier. That's right a six foot cord between the outlet and the amp.

Whatever next? You own dedicated generation, transmission, and distribution line?

A wind farm + solar farm + battery farm means you are off the grid and not influenced by your neighbour's fridge and hair dryer....

I think solar power and batteries would create a pretty dirty AC sine wave. However, I don't think it would be above them to buy special amplifiers that would run off of 36V DC or something like that. Sadly, that would not surprise me in the least if some people did that.

Those things just produce DC, so you could have a DC-AC converter and a bunch of filters to fix that...

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: rockyct

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: rockyct
Well, at least this is better than headphone audiophiles paying $500 for a power cable for their amplifier. That's right a six foot cord between the outlet and the amp.

Whatever next? You own dedicated generation, transmission, and distribution line?

A wind farm + solar farm + battery farm means you are off the grid and not influenced by your neighbour's fridge and hair dryer....

I think solar power and batteries would create a pretty dirty AC sine wave. However, I don't think it would be above them to buy special amplifiers that would run off of 36V DC or something like that. Sadly, that would not surprise me in the least if some people did that.

Not really, you can reconstruct perfect sine wave and it would be super clean. And nuts. I remember seeing someone's huge lead acid battery farm on the web. Just for his listening room of course.

 

[Adul]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
monoprice FTW

indeed. I :heart: monoprice

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Monster Cable Z1 series speaker wire
This is what I use. The higher end Z series monster cables (Z2, Z3, Z4, ect.) use basically the same design, but the outer jackets become more expensive along with the connectors. I needed a heavy duty cable for long runs. And in a long run, the Z1 cable sounds noticeably better with greater clarity and definition than a standard cheapo 16 gauge speaker wire. You can hear improved bass and treble using these speaker cables. And for surround use you can hear improved dialoge and imaging. Most noticable is the fact it is a louder cable at the same volume levels on the reciever versus cheapo 16 gauge especially using 20 foot plus runs. It is also heavily shielded and insulated which is important if you have a lot of video and audio cables running side by side out of the reciever.

Audiophiles always say meaningless crap like that. Those statements are idiotic. If you hear a difference between lamp cord and monster cable, then you diddn't hook them up correctly. And where does that cable say it's shielded?

The only good thing about Monster Cables is that you can abuse the crap out of them, break them, then get a replacement. Thats it.

Hardly meaningless. Compared to the other cables I was using before, there was a noticable difference in all the above, however slight, on the surrounds. After I used them, I had to recalibrate my HT surrounds. Just like the sub cables made a noticable bass volume difference, and I had to recalibrate that. But on the short 6 foot runs to the mains the difference was not as noticable using Z1, volume wise, anyway.

It's obviously hard to quantify the difference with a simple statement, like it sounds better, but it did on the surrounds. The difference was there, and it was as I described it. If I had to put a percentage on it, perhaps a 15-20% improvement in the surrounds both volume wise and imaging. The midrange seemed to be more clear and less muddy when it was localized in the surrounds. It was enough so that it was noticably louder using the Z1 series versus 16 guage at the same HT settings. But obviously, if I am using it for the surrounds, I will also want Z1 for the mains, too.

Of course, when someone is using crappy components and speakers, you may not notice the difference at all with Z1 over distances, compared to a cheap, thin lamp cord. It seems kind of juvenile to spend 1000s on a high quality HT and then be a complete cheapskate on the main link between the amp and the speakers. Just because you can't personally hear or figure out the advanced physics of electrical conductivity as a valid reason for using a quality speaker wire that can handle the extremely fast fluctuations of the ohms and watts running to a speaker using high wattage loads. I know for a fact my speakers and amp can handle and produce 2 ohm loads that will fry most amps and speakers at high volumes.

Some of the energy that is sent to the speaker is actually wasted and unused and is then sent briefly back into the wires which can also make the difference between a blown amp, speaker, or both. And latent amp and speaker distortion can amplify this effect dramatically. I would much rather drive my HT at high volume knowing the speaker wire can adequately handle the varying load without causing problems. And I also kind of doubt that running a high powered amp with a short coat hanger for a wire would work for very long at any sort of high volume before it burned out the speakers and amp, and for the reasons listed above.

But hey, when you HT n00bs post later in audio and video about burned out amps and speakers running thin lamp cord or coat hangers, don't ask for my advice.

Did you by any chance replace all the cables all the way from the nuclear plant to your speakers? How about the tiiny cables in your speaker? And the winding of your speaker coils? Face it, speakers are so inefficient, whatever perceived advantage you get from the cable is erased by the 60% loss imposed by the loudspeaker. The only real requirement on speaker cable is really gauge. Gauge of the conductor (not the cable) . Advanced physics my ass.

For what it's worth, your Z1 may be decent cables, but the termination killed off any benefit of a large gauge speaker cable. And calling other people noob really just shows you are a tool.

WTF is magnetic flux tube, time correct winding, multitwist construction????

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Monster Cable Z1 series speaker wire
This is what I use. The higher end Z series monster cables (Z2, Z3, Z4, ect.) use basically the same design, but the outer jackets become more expensive along with the connectors. I needed a heavy duty cable for long runs. And in a long run, the Z1 cable sounds noticeably better with greater clarity and definition than a standard cheapo 16 gauge speaker wire. You can hear improved bass and treble using these speaker cables. And for surround use you can hear improved dialoge and imaging. Most noticable is the fact it is a louder cable at the same volume levels on the reciever versus cheapo 16 gauge especially using 20 foot plus runs. It is also heavily shielded and insulated which is important if you have a lot of video and audio cables running side by side out of the reciever.

Audiophiles always say meaningless crap like that. Those statements are idiotic. If you hear a difference between lamp cord and monster cable, then you diddn't hook them up correctly. And where does that cable say it's shielded?

The only good thing about Monster Cables is that you can abuse the crap out of them, break them, then get a replacement. Thats it.

Hardly meaningless. Compared to the other cables I was using before, there was a noticable difference in all the above, however slight, on the surrounds. After I used them, I had to recalibrate my HT surrounds. Just like the sub cables made a noticable bass volume difference, and I had to recalibrate that. But on the short 6 foot runs to the mains the difference was not as noticable using Z1, volume wise, anyway.

It's obviously hard to quantify the difference with a simple statement, like it sounds better, but it did on the surrounds. The difference was there, and it was as I described it. If I had to put a percentage on it, perhaps a 15-20% improvement in the surrounds both volume wise and imaging. The midrange seemed to be more clear and less muddy when it was localized in the surrounds. It was enough so that it was noticably louder using the Z1 series versus 16 guage at the same HT settings. But obviously, if I am using it for the surrounds, I will also want Z1 for the mains, too.

Of course, when someone is using crappy components and speakers, you may not notice the difference at all with Z1 over distances, compared to a cheap, thin lamp cord. It seems kind of juvenile to spend 1000s on a high quality HT and then be a complete cheapskate on the main link between the amp and the speakers. Just because you can't personally hear or figure out the advanced physics of electrical conductivity as a valid reason for using a quality speaker wire that can handle the extremely fast fluctuations of the ohms and watts running to a speaker using high wattage loads. I know for a fact my speakers and amp can handle and produce 2 ohm loads that will fry most amps and speakers at high volumes.

Some of the energy that is sent to the speaker is actually wasted and unused and is then sent briefly back into the wires which can also make the difference between a blown amp, speaker, or both. And latent amp and speaker distortion can amplify this effect dramatically. I would much rather drive my HT at high volume knowing the speaker wire can adequately handle the varying load without causing problems. And I also kind of doubt that running a high powered amp with a short coat hanger for a wire would work for very long at any sort of high volume before it burned out the speakers and amp, and for the reasons listed above.

But hey, when you HT n00bs post later in audio and video about burned out amps and speakers running thin lamp cord or coat hangers, don't ask for my advice.

Quoted so he can;t edit his BS.

When in deep just keep digging. :laugh:

 

[SaoFeng]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Monster Cable Z1 series speaker wire
This is what I use. The higher end Z series monster cables (Z2, Z3, Z4, ect.) use basically the same design, but the outer jackets become more expensive along with the connectors. I needed a heavy duty cable for long runs. And in a long run, the Z1 cable sounds noticeably better with greater clarity and definition than a standard cheapo 16 gauge speaker wire. You can hear improved bass and treble using these speaker cables. And for surround use you can hear improved dialoge and imaging. Most noticable is the fact it is a louder cable at the same volume levels on the reciever versus cheapo 16 gauge especially using 20 foot plus runs. It is also heavily shielded and insulated which is important if you have a lot of video and audio cables running side by side out of the reciever.

Audiophiles always say meaningless crap like that. Those statements are idiotic. If you hear a difference between lamp cord and monster cable, then you diddn't hook them up correctly. And where does that cable say it's shielded?

The only good thing about Monster Cables is that you can abuse the crap out of them, break them, then get a replacement. Thats it.

Hardly meaningless. Compared to the other cables I was using before, there was a noticable difference in all the above, however slight, on the surrounds. After I used them, I had to recalibrate my HT surrounds. Just like the sub cables made a noticable bass volume difference, and I had to recalibrate that. But on the short 6 foot runs to the mains the difference was not as noticable using Z1, volume wise, anyway.

It's obviously hard to quantify the difference with a simple statement, like it sounds better, but it did on the surrounds. The difference was there, and it was as I described it. If I had to put a percentage on it, perhaps a 15-20% improvement in the surrounds both volume wise and imaging. The midrange seemed to be more clear and less muddy when it was localized in the surrounds. It was enough so that it was noticably louder using the Z1 series versus 16 guage at the same HT settings. But obviously, if I am using it for the surrounds, I will also want Z1 for the mains, too.

Of course, when someone is using crappy components and speakers, you may not notice the difference at all with Z1 over distances, compared to a cheap, thin lamp cord. It seems kind of juvenile to spend 1000s on a high quality HT and then be a complete cheapskate on the main link between the amp and the speakers. Just because you can't personally hear or figure out the advanced physics of electrical conductivity as a valid reason for using a quality speaker wire that can handle the extremely fast fluctuations of the ohms and watts running to a speaker using high wattage loads. I know for a fact my speakers and amp can handle and produce 2 ohm loads that will fry most amps and speakers at high volumes.

Some of the energy that is sent to the speaker is actually wasted and unused and is then sent briefly back into the wires which can also make the difference between a blown amp, speaker, or both. And latent amp and speaker distortion can amplify this effect dramatically. I would much rather drive my HT at high volume knowing the speaker wire can adequately handle the varying load without causing problems. And I also kind of doubt that running a high powered amp with a short coat hanger for a wire would work for very long at any sort of high volume before it burned out the speakers and amp, and for the reasons listed above.

But hey, when you HT n00bs post later in audio and video about burned out amps and speakers running thin lamp cord or coat hangers, don't ask for my advice.

Did you by any chance replace all the cables all the way from the nuclear plant to your speakers? How about the tiiny cables in your speaker? And the winding of your speaker coils? Face it, speakers are so inefficient, whatever perceived advantage you get from the cable is erased by the 60% loss imposed by the lourspeaker. The only real requirement on speaker cable is really gauge. Gauge of the conductor (not the cable) . Advanced physics my ass.

For what it's worth, your Z1 may be decent cables, but the termination killed off any benefit of a large gauge speaker cable. And calling other people noob really just shows you are a tool.

WTF is magnetic flux tube, time correct winding, multitwist construction????

ahhahaa sdifox is my new hero

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: sdifox
WTF is magnetic flux tube, time correct winding, multitwist construction????

Bullshit marketing, that's what.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: sdifox
WTF is magnetic flux tube, time correct winding, multitwist construction????

Bullshit marketing, that's what.

I want my flux capacitor!

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
monster cable is like the BOSE of interconnects. Its crap for people who don't know any better. All in the marketing. You can get far higher quality interconnects for much lower prices if you knew where to look.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: QueBert
one thing I like about Monster Cables, they're incredibly easy to bend and route. I have their pro series audio amp kit cables running for my car stereo. No other brand I looked at had the same quality. It's like they're made out of silly putty how easy it is to bend them and get them to go where you want. Sound any better? nope not at all, but was worth the $200 IMO for how greatly they helped make the install that much easier, and it look cleaner than I could have done with generics. No other brand with the exception of the Kicker, which cost about the same would have given me the same results.

some of us are ummm... superficial? haha that's why I pay 12 bucks for a SATA cable that should be $3, just because it has a nicer look I spend more. It sucks to be superficial

Into what vehicle was it installed?

a Ford Taurus...

Why didn't anyone else note the exquisite irony here? :laugh: :shocked:

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: Platypus

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Monster Cable is sold at something like $5 to the store for even the most expensive ones, right? Maybe $10 for longer lengths? Then they're sold for $80 or whatever is asked.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2152053

Even the big stores get ripped off.

Best Buy buys it from Monster for $40.
Best Buy sells it to you for $80.

You can get it from Monoprice for $5.

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: skace
Why are you guys knocking audiophiles in regards to monster cable? Most audiophiles would laugh at even the mention of Monster.

you are right.


but you get some like slicksnake that buy into the marketing and think they are elite audiophiles

I never claimed to be an elite audiophile, but I didn't sleep through physics class, either. I also can't afford to be an elite audiophile. But thanks for confusing me with one, I guess. But I would describe the quality of my 2 HTs as well above average. And it was all bought for overall sound quality, not cheapness. But you can get good deals on anything if you look hard enough and do a bit of listening and reasearch, which I did.

Most people just buy cheap, and couldn't care less about quality. Either it works, or it don't. If that makes me an audiophile, so be it. But I also won't pretend to be stupid enough to run crappy lamp wire to main speakers that cost $1800 each retail, either. That might be fine for some cheap skates, but not for me. And I also have some unusual speakers that also require a heavy gauge speaker wire, on the fronts. Thin lamp wire simply will not cut it.

But kudos to those who think they are impressing everyone here by pretending to use cheap, crappy lamp wire while actualy hiding in the dark closet with their Monsters in their sweaty palms.

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: sdifox
WTF is magnetic flux tube, time correct winding, multitwist construction????

Bullshit marketing, that's what.

I want my flux capacitor!

The only thing you'll get is ripped off.