ATOT, let's decide on the Mohammed cartoons - POLL

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: rchiu

To you religion maybe only an ideology. But to many other people, it is a way of life. And similar to the race issue in the US, the Muslim in every part of the world is facing the same bias and discrimination, justifeid or not. And they often face the same economic struggle that some race in the US face too.

Racism is rampant in the Muslim world, especially the Middle East. I doubt Arab Muslims face much discrimination in their own countries, the imported labor does - they're often enslaved.

I am talking about in the international context. Of course those Muslims are the dominant race/religion in their own country and they don't face discrimination at home.

But take a look at the Western media, or even Internet forum, here for example. Even I, a non-muslim can see the bias and discrimination here.

 

[IdioticBuffoon]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Again, freedom of speech is obviously limited, but it should not be limited by religious blasphemy. I think I made my reasons clear and I hope that you understand.

So if we keep poking fun at peoples' beliefs knowing the consequences, is it the right thing to do ... just because freedom of speech let's us to?

Dietary beliefs are nowhere close to this. Even homosexuality pales in comparison to these cartoons. I don't think masses of homosexuals are willing to die for their sexual leanings. Believe it or not, the majority of the Moslem world is. You have to meet only one Moslem to understand this fact. You cannot change something that has not changed since 1400 years. But if you want to ... then

Again, this is not somehow bowing to them, it is actually the smart thing to do given the reality of our world today.

You say that freedom of speech is "obviously limited". What is that limit? From the way you speak ... I am sure you CANNOT possibly give me an answer to this question.

Hey, bud .... this IS the limit.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: rchiu

To you religion maybe only an ideology. But to many other people, it is a way of life. And similar to the race issue in the US, the Muslim in every part of the world is facing the same bias and discrimination, justifeid or not. And they often face the same economic struggle that some race in the US face too.

Racism is rampant in the Muslim world, especially the Middle East. I doubt Arab Muslims face much discrimination in their own countries, the imported labor does - they're often enslaved.

I am talking about in the international context. Of course those Muslims are the dominant race/religion in their own country and they don't face discrimination at home.

But take a look at the Western media, or even Internet forum, here for example. Even I, a non-muslim can see the bias and discrimination here.

I see bias in Western media, Arab media, Chinese media, Indian media, etc. Everyone is equal in the bias - nobody is special in this case.

 

[beyoku]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Hi there,

As a journalist, I'm both intrigued and concerned by this entire controversy brewing over the so-called "Mohammed cartoons". I admit openly that I firmly belive in freedom of speech, and that I see nothing more dangerous than curbing it for any type of religious reasons, regardless of which religion invokes them.

For those who haven't seen them yet, the cartoons are here:

First batch
Second batch

I'd like to get as many of you to participate in this poll... I am really curious, and we can also learn something from these results. ATOTers of Muslim faith are especially welcome to post their opinions.

PLEASE KEEP THIS CIVILIZED!

and, most important:

VOTE TRUTHFULLY and SHOW YOUR REAL THOUGHTS.

What I am wondering is if today it is for example a black being mocked, will there be equal support for the newspaper? I mean in the US, religion is open to criticism or mocking for whatever reason, but race is more offlimit. And I don't want to get into why that is. but in other country or culture, maybe it is the other way around. Maybe religion is off limit.

So is it so surprising that some people feel extremely upset and feel the West is abusing the freedom of speech to insult and humiliate them?

So you're saying there's never been a satirical carricature of any black or minorities in the US? Because it's 'off limit'?

Yes there have, but think of the US in the 20's or 30's Black people would have been lynched if they made satire of a black woman having sex with a white woman and put it in the paper......the Klan would have "Rode" that night. This is the state that the so called "muslim nations" are in now. The Past.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Again, freedom of speech is obviously limited, but it should not be limited by religious blasphemy. I think I made my reasons clear and I hope that you understand.

So if we keep poking fun at peoples' beliefs knowing the consequences, is it the right thing to do ... just because freedom of speech let's us to?

No, poking fun at people's beliefs is not the right thing to do. The right thing to do is not to enforce our beliefs on others.

Dietary beliefs are nowhere close to this. Even homosexuality pales in comparison to these cartoons. I don't think masses of homosexuals are willing to die for their sexual leanings. Believe it or not, the majority of the Moslem world is. You have to meet only one Moslem to understand this fact. You cannot change something that has not changed since 1400 years. But if you want to ... then

I completely disagree. The practices of many religions of not eating meat makes the Mo cartoons look silly. It is not simply a dietary belief, it is a religious belief that life must be respected. According to some people, you are eating people they knew in other lives and whatnot.

I don't think that the majority of the Muslim world is willing to die for someone depicting Mo. I doubt that most Muslims are fanatics. If that were the case, this situation would be much worse. It seems to me that the violence that is occuring is concentrated in low amounts of people.

Also, it doesn't matter whether someone is willing to die for their beliefs or not. Just because someone is willing to kill you doesn't mean that you must respect their beliefs. It now seems that you want to elevate Muslims above everyone else. If you have another post with vowels in it, I will kill someone. Of course you're not going to respect that because it is irrational.

You cannot change something that has been happening for 1400 years? Of course you can. Also, there are many instances of Muslims depicting Mohammed throughout history.

Again, this is not somehow bowing to them, it is actually the smart thing to do given the reality of our world today.

You do not restrict your rights based on the irrational behavior of others. Perhaps you are the type who wants to sacrifice his civil liberties for security so this is ok for you (sacrificing freedom of speech), I am not.

You say that freedom of speech is "obviously limited". What is that limit? From the way you speak ... I am sure you CANNOT possibly give me an answer to this question.

In the US it's limited by many ways. Yelling fire in a theater, libel/slander, etc. Religious blasphemy is not. Religious blasphemy does not harm anyone directly.

Hey, bud .... this IS the limit.

Hey, bud ... this IS NOT the limit for me.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Hi there,

As a journalist, I'm both intrigued and concerned by this entire controversy brewing over the so-called "Mohammed cartoons". I admit openly that I firmly belive in freedom of speech, and that I see nothing more dangerous than curbing it for any type of religious reasons, regardless of which religion invokes them.

For those who haven't seen them yet, the cartoons are here:

First batch
Second batch

I'd like to get as many of you to participate in this poll... I am really curious, and we can also learn something from these results. ATOTers of Muslim faith are especially welcome to post their opinions.

PLEASE KEEP THIS CIVILIZED!

and, most important:

VOTE TRUTHFULLY and SHOW YOUR REAL THOUGHTS.

What I am wondering is if today it is for example a black being mocked, will there be equal support for the newspaper? I mean in the US, religion is open to criticism or mocking for whatever reason, but race is more offlimit. And I don't want to get into why that is. but in other country or culture, maybe it is the other way around. Maybe religion is off limit.

So is it so surprising that some people feel extremely upset and feel the West is abusing the freedom of speech to insult and humiliate them?

So you're saying there's never been a satirical carricature of any black or minorities in the US? Because it's 'off limit'?

No I am only wondering what will the people here say when let's say the largest Newspaper in the US publish something that blacks universally feel is demeaning to them as a group.

Will people here say that's still protected by freedom of speech? If not, I think there is double standard.

So you really don't think this has happened in the past? You don't think there's ever been a satirical comic that offends blacks or any other minority group? Of course there's been, and of course they've been offended. But i'll bet no editors were fired, no riots had occured, and no death threats were issued.

We do have freedom of the press. People do post satirical comics that offend others. And people do get offended and voice their opinions. That's part of a democratic and free society.

 

[IdioticBuffoon]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Again, freedom of speech is obviously limited, but it should not be limited by religious blasphemy. I think I made my reasons clear and I hope that you understand.

So if we keep poking fun at peoples' beliefs knowing the consequences, is it the right thing to do ... just because freedom of speech let's us to?

No, poking fun at people's beliefs is not the right thing to do. The right thing to do is not to enforce our beliefs on others.

Correct. Now you are beginning to understand. It is YOUR belief that freedom of speech is a basic human right which allows blasphemous depictions such as this. Well ... you know what? Don't impose this belief on others!

Get it now?

Moslems are not imposing their beliefs on you. They just expected that you would not tread this far and would respect their most sacred beliefs as equals in humanity. Is that too much to expect after a bogus war has already brought them so much anguish and pain?

If you have another post with vowels in it, I will kill someone. Of course you're not going to respect that because it is irrational.

Is this how simple this entire issue is? I will take it that you weren't gonna expect me to fall for this.

You cannot change something that has been happening for 1400 years? Of course you can. Also, there are many instances of Muslims depicting Mohammed throughout history.

You know what those depictions are? I do. In fact I have seem them. They are extremely rare and extremely respectful. Please, show me some respect and stop using such out-of-place and simpleton examples.

Hey, bud ... this IS NOT the limit for me.

Enjoy your newfound freedom. I am done here.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon

Correct. Now you are beginning to understand. It is YOUR belief that freedom of speech is a basic human right which allows blasphemous depictions such as this. Well ... you know what? Don't impose this belief on others!

Get it now?

I am not taking away anyone's rights or preventing people from performing any actions. You are advocating taking away rights. That is the fundamental difference between your and mine reasoning. Get it now?

Moslems are not imposing their beliefs on you. They just expected that you would not tread this far and would respect their most sacred beliefs as equals in humanity. Is that too much to expect after a bogus war has already brought them so much anguish and pain?

I don't think that all Muslims are trying to impose their beliefs on me. I believe that you are attempting to impose their beliefs upon me.

You can respect someone's faith, but it cannot be demanded. Also, respecting the faith is different than following the faith's rules. You are advocating forcing the faith's rules onto a secular society.

If you have another post with vowels in it, I will kill someone. Of course you're not going to respect that because it is irrational.

Is this how simple this entire issue is? I will take it that you weren't gonna expect me to fall for this.

It's a simple illustration to show the flaws in your reasoning. I hope you understand now.

You cannot change something that has been happening for 1400 years? Of course you can. Also, there are many instances of Muslims depicting Mohammed throughout history.

You know what those depictions are? I do. In fact I have seem them. They are extremely rare and extremely respectful. Please, show me some respect and stop using such out-of-place and simpleton examples.

Sorry, I can't show respect to someone I have no respect for. You wish to enact religious blasphemy laws upon a secular society. That disgusts me.

Hey, bud ... this IS NOT the limit for me.

Enjoy your newfound freedom. I am done here.

OK. God bless the Queen.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: rchiu

To you religion maybe only an ideology. But to many other people, it is a way of life. And similar to the race issue in the US, the Muslim in every part of the world is facing the same bias and discrimination, justifeid or not. And they often face the same economic struggle that some race in the US face too.

Racism is rampant in the Muslim world, especially the Middle East. I doubt Arab Muslims face much discrimination in their own countries, the imported labor does - they're often enslaved.

I am talking about in the international context. Of course those Muslims are the dominant race/religion in their own country and they don't face discrimination at home.

But take a look at the Western media, or even Internet forum, here for example. Even I, a non-muslim can see the bias and discrimination here.

LOL, discrimiantion right here in River City?? Off with their heads!!

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Hi there,

As a journalist, I'm both intrigued and concerned by this entire controversy brewing over the so-called "Mohammed cartoons". I admit openly that I firmly belive in freedom of speech, and that I see nothing more dangerous than curbing it for any type of religious reasons, regardless of which religion invokes them.

For those who haven't seen them yet, the cartoons are here:

First batch
Second batch

I'd like to get as many of you to participate in this poll... I am really curious, and we can also learn something from these results. ATOTers of Muslim faith are especially welcome to post their opinions.

PLEASE KEEP THIS CIVILIZED!

and, most important:

VOTE TRUTHFULLY and SHOW YOUR REAL THOUGHTS.

What I am wondering is if today it is for example a black being mocked, will there be equal support for the newspaper? I mean in the US, religion is open to criticism or mocking for whatever reason, but race is more offlimit. And I don't want to get into why that is. but in other country or culture, maybe it is the other way around. Maybe religion is off limit.

So is it so surprising that some people feel extremely upset and feel the West is abusing the freedom of speech to insult and humiliate them?

So you're saying there's never been a satirical carricature of any black or minorities in the US? Because it's 'off limit'?

No I am only wondering what will the people here say when let's say the largest Newspaper in the US publish something that blacks universally feel is demeaning to them as a group.

Will people here say that's still protected by freedom of speech? If not, I think there is double standard.

So you really don't think this has happened in the past? You don't think there's ever been a satirical comic that offends blacks or any other minority group? Of course there's been, and of course they've been offended. But i'll bet no editors were fired, no riots had occured, and no death threats were issued.

We do have freedom of the press. People do post satirical comics that offend others. And people do get offended and voice their opinions. That's part of a democratic and free society.

That's baloney, get me one editor in a major newspaper who will publish anything that offends a racial group and believe that he won't get fired for it. You are living in a dream world if you think any major newspaper will publish any racially offensive material in their publication.

Any if anyone do, you wanna see how many people will be outraged for it? I bet there is gonna be more people outraged by that than the few people here outraged by something that offended Muslim.

So again, I say there is double standard here.

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Hi there,

As a journalist, I'm both intrigued and concerned by this entire controversy brewing over the so-called "Mohammed cartoons". I admit openly that I firmly belive in freedom of speech, and that I see nothing more dangerous than curbing it for any type of religious reasons, regardless of which religion invokes them.

For those who haven't seen them yet, the cartoons are here:

First batch
Second batch

I'd like to get as many of you to participate in this poll... I am really curious, and we can also learn something from these results. ATOTers of Muslim faith are especially welcome to post their opinions.

PLEASE KEEP THIS CIVILIZED!

and, most important:

VOTE TRUTHFULLY and SHOW YOUR REAL THOUGHTS.

What I am wondering is if today it is for example a black being mocked, will there be equal support for the newspaper? I mean in the US, religion is open to criticism or mocking for whatever reason, but race is more offlimit. And I don't want to get into why that is. but in other country or culture, maybe it is the other way around. Maybe religion is off limit.

So is it so surprising that some people feel extremely upset and feel the West is abusing the freedom of speech to insult and humiliate them?

So you're saying there's never been a satirical carricature of any black or minorities in the US? Because it's 'off limit'?

No I am only wondering what will the people here say when let's say the largest Newspaper in the US publish something that blacks universally feel is demeaning to them as a group.

Will people here say that's still protected by freedom of speech? If not, I think there is double standard.

So you really don't think this has happened in the past? You don't think there's ever been a satirical comic that offends blacks or any other minority group? Of course there's been, and of course they've been offended. But i'll bet no editors were fired, no riots had occured, and no death threats were issued.

We do have freedom of the press. People do post satirical comics that offend others. And people do get offended and voice their opinions. That's part of a democratic and free society.

That's baloney, get me one editor in a major newspaper who will publish anything that offends a racial group and believe that he won't get fired for it. You are living in a dream world if you think any major newspaper will publish any racially offensive material in their publication.

Any if anyone do, you wanna see how many people will be outraged for it? I bet there is gonna be more people outraged by that than the few people here outraged by something that offended Muslim.

So again, I say there is double standard here.

A person can change their religion, they can not change their race.

 

[imported_Yonzie]

Originally posted by: episodicNow the real question is, are these photos acceptable?
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004448.htm

Yes, they are.
The opinion expressed by the people on the pictures are on the other hand absolutely unacceptable and they should all be shot at dawn!
Seriously, these people scare me. If they don't like democracy, why don't they f*** off and go home to whereever they're from? Is it because they, like cleric Abu Laban, are not wanted at home in the middle east because of their extremist viewpoints?

Originally posted by: beyoku
Yes there have, but think of the US in the 20's or 30's Black people would have been lynched if they made satire of a black woman having sex with a white woman and put it in the paper......the Klan would have "Rode" that night. This is the state that the so called "muslim nations" are in now. The Past.

QFT

Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon
I refuse to believe that the cartoonist, editors and all involved hadn't thought of this. If they truly had not, they need to hand over their jobs to professionals with a tad more common sense and gumption.

They knew very well, they just never imagined that a bunch of radical clerics would blow the issue totally out of proportion.

Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon
The prevailing opinion among my Moslem classmates is that the reason this is perceived so seriously by the Moslem world is mainly because a non-Moslem did it and understandably so.

Understandably? Come on... In my book, the fact that an infidel did it makes it better, since he might not have known that he shouldn't depict mohammad, he does not believe in mohammad, so what difference does it make?
It's like if someone from the middle of nowhere in russia who had never seen the US flag found it in an old chest, and tore it to sheds to use for rags... An american witnesses it, and spends 4 months building up hate against Russia...

Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon
Think of it this way, if we, as humans, don't respect each others' most sacred beliefs, how can there be peace in the world? Oh, but the Moslem terrorists don't either, right? Well, these cartoons certainly weren't exclusively meant for the terrrrarists! What makes us (the western world) any better?

If each individual cannot accept that not everyone sees the world the same way he does, how can there ever be peace?
How can I respect someone's most sacred belief if I do not know what it is?
The Jihadists in the news cannot accept any truth but their own. If they cannot respect Christianity, how can we accept Islam? They cry foul at some drawings, and then step on a cross...
Since the start of this affair, we in the western world have gotten a better understanding of moslems. Have the moslems gotten a better understanding of us? Why haven't they?

Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon
Freedom of speech is one thing, stupidity, borne out of ignorance (or deliberate incitement?) is another. Hope I have cleared up the situation a little.

This has nothing to do with stupidity. It is about generating debate about self-censorship. The fact that it has gotten this far out is proof of the moslems either being deluded by radical clerics or just stupid. The longer this carries on, the more negative press about Islam it'll generate.
If Denmark is bombed or Danes killed because of this, then I'm afraid - however much I'll hate myself for doing it - that I'll have to vote for the "Danish Peoples Party" and their racist agenda.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: 1prophet

A person can change their religion, they can not change their race.

Not only that, but making a caricature of a religious figure is not the same as saying "All Muslims are evil and must die." I also think that if someone offends a racial/ethnic group, people would not be calling for a restriction on freedom of speech in the US.

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: 1prophet

A person can change their religion, they can not change their race.

Haha, so that's the reason why we can discriminate against religion and not the race eh? So we discriminate against them, and if they don't like it, they can just switch to something else.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: 1prophet

A person can change their religion, they can not change their race.

Haha, so that's the reason why we can discriminate against religion and not the race eh? So we discriminate against them, and if they don't like it, they can just switch to something else.

sorry, you need stop stop this mixing of race and religion. one can choose ideology, one can even choose horrible ideology. one can have a problem with anothers ideology without hating their race. race is a physical characteristic that has no bearing on anything, it is nothing more than appearance. there are no good arguements defending racism, its been hashed out already. whereas ideas are chosen and must be judged for what they are. ideas such as racism and facism should be discriminated against. we cannot be silent on bad ideas because of fear of offense or because they proclaim themselves holy.

and frankly the only reason to mix the two is because you already know how weak your arguement is when dealing with ideology alone.

 

[spacejamz]

That's baloney, get me one editor in a major newspaper who will publish anything that offends a racial group and believe that he won't get fired for it. You are living in a dream world if you think any major newspaper will publish any racially offensive material in their publication.

Any if anyone do, you wanna see how many people will be outraged for it? I bet there is gonna be more people outraged by that than the few people here outraged by something that offended Muslim.

So again, I say there is double standard here.

Text


This comic (the irony) about two black brothers gets published in about 400 newspapers in the states daily...

In one strip last May, they are called chimpanzees. That is pretty offensive, is it not???

Gee, no one got fired and no riots broke out...

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: spacejamz

That's baloney, get me one editor in a major newspaper who will publish anything that offends a racial group and believe that he won't get fired for it. You are living in a dream world if you think any major newspaper will publish any racially offensive material in their publication.

Any if anyone do, you wanna see how many people will be outraged for it? I bet there is gonna be more people outraged by that than the few people here outraged by something that offended Muslim.

So again, I say there is double standard here.

Text


This comic (the irony) about two black brothers gets published in about 400 newspapers in the states daily...

In one strip last May, they are called chimpanzees. That is pretty offensive, is it not???

Gee, no one got fired and no riots broke out...

The US syndicated cartoon strip The Boondocks has been suspended by a paper in Oregon after complaints about the strip?s ongoing story line involving a "self-hating" black Santa Claus character named "Unkle Ruckus." In one strip, the character referred to two black children as "chimpanzees".
The Register-Guard newspaper in Eugene, Oregon, temporarily suspended the controversial strip on Dec. 24, after receiving several calls from readers complained that the strip was racist. "My preference is to allow comics creators as much freedom as possible to express their point of view, but there are limits," managing editor Dave Baker said in his own paper. He said the paper was considering renewing the strip. Launched in 1999, The Boondocks now appears in about 400 newspapers. Drawn by by Aaron McGruder, the story line revolves around a pair of black brothers who move from the city to the suburbs. Cartoon syndication managers edited out the word "chimpanzee" for newspapers that requested it and ran an alternative comic series for others. The Register-Guard was the only paper to suspend the strip.


Thanks for proving my point.

 

[Aimster]

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[imported_Yonzie]

Originally posted by: rchiu
Thanks for proving my point.

Proving what point?
All it proves is that 1 (ONE!) out of 400 papers found it objectionable enough to remove... Jeez... Maybe that particular paper's readers are really uptight?

Originally posted by: Aimster
Who votes Yes?
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Sure:
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[rchiu]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: 1prophet

A person can change their religion, they can not change their race.

Haha, so that's the reason why we can discriminate against religion and not the race eh? So we discriminate against them, and if they don't like it, they can just switch to something else.

sorry, you need stop stop this mixing of race and religion. one can choose ideology, one can even choose horrible ideology. one can have a problem with anothers ideology without hating their race. race is a physical characteristic that has no bearing on anything, it is nothing more than appearance. there are no good arguements defending racism, its been hashed out already. whereas ideas are chosen and must be judged for what they are. ideas such as racism and facism should be discriminated against. we cannot be silent on bad ideas because of fear of offense or because they proclaim themselves holy.

and frankly the only reason to mix the two is because you already know how weak your arguement is when dealing with ideology alone.

Oh really. Back when white american discriminate against black, is it the only "physical characteristic" they discriminate against? When you can answer that question, you know you are the one with the weak argument.

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: spacejamz

That's baloney, get me one editor in a major newspaper who will publish anything that offends a racial group and believe that he won't get fired for it. You are living in a dream world if you think any major newspaper will publish any racially offensive material in their publication.

Any if anyone do, you wanna see how many people will be outraged for it? I bet there is gonna be more people outraged by that than the few people here outraged by something that offended Muslim.

So again, I say there is double standard here.

Text


This comic (the irony) about two black brothers gets published in about 400 newspapers in the states daily...

In one strip last May, they are called chimpanzees. That is pretty offensive, is it not???

Gee, no one got fired and no riots broke out...

The US syndicated cartoon strip The Boondocks has been suspended by a paper in Oregon after complaints about the strip?s ongoing story line involving a "self-hating" black Santa Claus character named "Unkle Ruckus." In one strip, the character referred to two black children as "chimpanzees".
The Register-Guard newspaper in Eugene, Oregon, temporarily suspended the controversial strip on Dec. 24, after receiving several calls from readers complained that the strip was racist. "My preference is to allow comics creators as much freedom as possible to express their point of view, but there are limits," managing editor Dave Baker said in his own paper. He said the paper was considering renewing the strip. Launched in 1999, The Boondocks now appears in about 400 newspapers. Drawn by by Aaron McGruder, the story line revolves around a pair of black brothers who move from the city to the suburbs. Cartoon syndication managers edited out the word "chimpanzee" for newspapers that requested it and ran an alternative comic series for others. The Register-Guard was the only paper to suspend the strip.


Thanks for proving my point.

In your post, you stated "That's baloney, get me one editor in a major newspaper who will publish anything that offends a racial group and believe that he won't get fired for it. You are living in a dream world if you think any major newspaper will publish any racially offensive material in their publication."

Did anyone get fired? Did anyone get kidnapped? Did any buildings burn down? Did any riots break out? Where is all of this backlash you state will happen if blatant racism appears in the newspaper??

Notice that no violence took place after a racially derogatory comic strip was published in a US newspaper...That is the point...get it??

This comic strip appears in the Dallas Morning News daily...pretty sure it is in alot of the other major papers as well...hope that fits your qualification of MAJOR newspaper...

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Aimster
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OK. What are you planning on doing with it? And I'll be expecting yours in return.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Aimster
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OK. What are you planning on doing with it? And I'll be expecting yours in return.

Sounds like a threat to me.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Aimster
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OK. What are you planning on doing with it? And I'll be expecting yours in return.

Give it to me NOW

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Aimster
Who votes Yes?
Give me your name and address right now.

OK. What are you planning on doing with it? And I'll be expecting yours in return.

Give it to me NOW

YGPM. Wonder if you'll be brave enough to return yours.