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VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Schmide
This may be the first time in history the early adopters were rewarded.

Don't forget the retail BestBuy prices when the 4850 was first introduced. MSRP for the VisionTek reference design was $200, but BB had a 25% off sale on VisionTek graphics cards. Thing is, the weekend of the sale, was supposed to end BEFORE the 4850 came out, but some stores got them in a couple of days earlier, and you could get them to pull them out from behind the counter. PROFIT!

Then they had another 25% off sale about a month later.

I bought two cards, both times, so I have four VisionTek 4850s. Lifetime warranty!
 

james1701

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: Schmide
This may be the first time in history the early adopters were rewarded.

Don't forget the retail BestBuy prices when the 4850 was first introduced. MSRP for the VisionTek reference design was $200, but BB had a 25% off sale on VisionTek graphics cards. Thing is, the weekend of the sale, was supposed to end BEFORE the 4850 came out, but some stores got them in a couple of days earlier, and you could get them to pull them out from behind the counter. PROFIT!

Then they had another 25% off sale about a month later.

I bought two cards, both times, so I have four VisionTek 4850s. Lifetime warranty!


BB had the 5770 for 209.99 for a day, and it was listed as backordered, and it was removed all together day before yesterday.
 

Illyan

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I know Newegg and such raise prices during high demand, but I've never seen AMD/Nvidia actually raise prices on their cards after launch. This sucks if true.

It doesn't seem like that great of a strategy either; with higher prices, more people might just hold on till Fermi comes out.
 

Qbah

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Bad move. And it's clearly dictated by the fact that there's no competition from nVidia... Increased costs sound as plausible as the technical reasoning for blocking PhysX - total BS.
 

ShadowOfMyself

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Originally posted by: toyota
Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
How can people compare this to Nvidia releasing the GTX280 at what was it, 649$? LOL!

399$ and you get the only DX11 capable card out there, while being the best performer at the same time... Terrible deal huh?

Also in before Wreckage replying "GTX295 is the best card. In fact, even GTX260 beats it due to physx and 3d vision and CUDA. All hail Nvidia."

the gtx280 was Nvidias top card on release and no faster dual card from them was even planned at the time. now the 5870 is ONLY HALF of ATIs top card and we know their 5970(5870x2) is coming in a few weeks. sure the gtx280 was overpriced but the 5970 will likely be just as pricey if not more so your comparison makes little sense if you really think about it.

The fact is the 5970 or whatever isnt here yet, so the 5870 IS the top card, they have no reason to lower the price until the X2 card is here

But my point stands, at least AMD is pricing their cards accordingly... Now think back the FX series which got kicked around by the 9700 PRO and still had a higher price tag, whats stopping AMD from doing the same now? Yet they dont, weird huh?

 

s44

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Either they're pissing away a huge chance to grab big market/mindshare, or they didn't have the capacity to dominate anyway.

In any case, ugh.
 

Barfo

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Originally posted by: s44
Either they're pissing away a huge chance to grab big market/mindshare, or they didn't have the capacity to dominate anyway.

In any case, ugh.

The 5850s are getting bought as soon as they become available so they're still grabbing that marketshare.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: akugami
Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Wreckage
Right on schedule.

poor wreckage.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ntwW...rying-cross-bloody.jpg

What? He's wrong? :D

Yes, that picture is wrong in so many ways. Let's just start with the obvious, it should be green and not red.

Maybe it is being done to let the vendors hold on to some stock so it doesn't appear that there is a shortage? If the prices are raising, people will just be that more patient to wait on Fermi and see what it does to ATI's pricing. Especially those with GTX series or 48xx series currently.
 

Nemesis 1

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Good for AMD/ATI . But not a surprise it was exspected by me and any reasonable person .
 

GEOrifle

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So what hapened?
Why all 5870 and 5850 cards aren't available when 5700 series are all over?
My 5850 is third week backordered from Tiger.
 

ronnn

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Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Maybe it is being done to let the vendors hold on to some stock so it doesn't appear that there is a shortage? If the prices are raising, people will just be that more patient to wait on Fermi and see what it does to ATI's pricing. Especially those with GTX series or 48xx series currently.

Obviously amd are selling all of their stock, so I imagine yields are the issue. Fermi appears to be basically irrelevant.

 

AyashiKaibutsu

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This is probably the best thread you'll ever get to see who the real die hard hardcore ati bois are; not that they weren't always obvious to begin with.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Maybe it is being done to let the vendors hold on to some stock so it doesn't appear that there is a shortage? If the prices are raising, people will just be that more patient to wait on Fermi and see what it does to ATI's pricing. Especially those with GTX series or 48xx series currently.

Obviously amd are selling all of their stock, so I imagine yields are the issue. Fermi appears to be basically irrelevant.

Isn't that what I alluded to? How do you figure Fermi is irrelevant? It's going to be even more anticipated now in the hopes it will drive ATI's prices back down. Do you think that isn't the case?
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
This is probably the best thread you'll ever get to see who the real die hard hardcore ati bois are; not that they weren't always obvious to begin with.

LOL. We didn't need this thread for that. But everyone is surely allowed a preference.

 

Rezist

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It's obviously ATi won't be keeping up with demand and while we bitch they'll still sell so they do it anyways.
 

Red Storm

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I'd be all up in arms if any company ever pulls a move like this. Don't like the decision at all AMD (even if it makes "business sense" like a lot of moves AMD and nVidia both do).
 

ronnn

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Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Maybe it is being done to let the vendors hold on to some stock so it doesn't appear that there is a shortage? If the prices are raising, people will just be that more patient to wait on Fermi and see what it does to ATI's pricing. Especially those with GTX series or 48xx series currently.

Obviously amd are selling all of their stock, so I imagine yields are the issue. Fermi appears to be basically irrelevant.

Isn't that what I alluded to? How do you figure Fermi is irrelevant? It's going to be even more anticipated now in the hopes it will drive ATI's prices back down. Do you think that isn't the case?

If Fermi was relevant in today's market, possibly this thread wouldn't exist. Anyways not my thing to blame nvidia for amd shortage. I like the rest here hope that nvidia is not leaving the market and going software, as we will all pay more.
 

FalseChristian

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I think the prices are quite fair considering I paid $763 Canadian for a Radeon X800 Pro. I'll never do that again. Just call me stupid.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Maybe it is being done to let the vendors hold on to some stock so it doesn't appear that there is a shortage? If the prices are raising, people will just be that more patient to wait on Fermi and see what it does to ATI's pricing. Especially those with GTX series or 48xx series currently.

Obviously amd are selling all of their stock, so I imagine yields are the issue. Fermi appears to be basically irrelevant.

Isn't that what I alluded to? How do you figure Fermi is irrelevant? It's going to be even more anticipated now in the hopes it will drive ATI's prices back down. Do you think that isn't the case?

If Fermi was relevant in today's market, possibly this thread wouldn't exist. Anyways not my thing to blame nvidia for amd shortage. I like the rest here hope that nvidia is not leaving the market and going software, as we will all pay more.

Nobody is blaming Nvidia for AMD shortage. 40nm yields are obviously not that great yet.
Nvidia is probably going software to sell more hardware to a wider customer base. That is all.

 

ronnn

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Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Maybe it is being done to let the vendors hold on to some stock so it doesn't appear that there is a shortage? If the prices are raising, people will just be that more patient to wait on Fermi and see what it does to ATI's pricing. Especially those with GTX series or 48xx series currently.

Obviously amd are selling all of their stock, so I imagine yields are the issue. Fermi appears to be basically irrelevant.

Isn't that what I alluded to? How do you figure Fermi is irrelevant? It's going to be even more anticipated now in the hopes it will drive ATI's prices back down. Do you think that isn't the case?

If Fermi was relevant in today's market, possibly this thread wouldn't exist. Anyways not my thing to blame nvidia for amd shortage. I like the rest here hope that nvidia is not leaving the market and going software, as we will all pay more.

Nobody is blaming Nvidia for AMD shortage. 40nm yields are obviously not that great yet.
Nvidia is probably going software to sell more hardware to a wider customer base. That is all.

They have been very tardy at getting any new hardware out there. Just rebadge city. Maybe nvidia has seen the writing on the wall and is gracefully getting out of the gaming market?
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: FalseChristian
I think the prices are quite fair considering I paid $763 Canadian for a Radeon X800 Pro. I'll never do that again. Just call me stupid.

I don't think it's a matter of 'fairness'. The 5850 is still a reasonable enough value at $299USD for a high performance video card, and I doubt the additional $20 is going to bankrupt any potential buyers. However, raising prices makes ATI look greedy, which is just a bad perception for your customers to have.

...and, WOW! $763 CAD is an assload for an X800 Pro. IIRC, the X800 and 6800's were both paper launched in a big way back in 2004, so I'm hoping that at least you got yours during the great video card famine of 2004.