I read the whole thread and I haven't seen any pics of ATI's 0.13um based cards (so I have no reason to think that they'll do any differently than 3rd parties using their chips), have you?
See above ^
Thorin
Thorin
Thorin, those are Radeon 9700pros and radeon 9500 pros. That's what the stickers on the cooling aparatus indicate anyway. It's not a .13u chip. This has no bearing on what ATI is doing with their built by ati cards.
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Ok good catch I didn't see that. However I still won't be surprised when ATI's 0.13 parts come out and it happens.
Thorin
Asshat? Yeah, that's what I've said several times in my above posts. It's not a built by ati card but it is still an ATI card. It's not an Nvidia card, it's not a matrox card, it's an ATI card. Like I've said, it has no bearing on built by ati cards. I just thought it was funny to see an ATI card with one of these on it. Have you even read the posts before spouting off?
Sir, I would like to correct you:
THIS is an ATi card.
What you are trying to claim as an ATi card is not strictly an ATi card, but one powered by an ATi GPU.
There are differences betwwen nVidia and ATi, this is one of them, nVidia cards DON'T exist, ATi ones do, and there are also cards powere by each companies GPU's.
I once again state: CHANGE THE MISLEADING THREAD TITLE.
How about I don't change the "misleading" title and you can lump it.
No one is going to tell me that my hercules or whatever Radeon 9700pro isn't an ATI card. It is. I shouldn't have to specify built by ati or powered by ati every time I refer to a board with ATI GPU on it. I know it's pretty typical for nerds but some people really have to grab stick in as$ and pull...
No one is going to tell me that my hercules or whatever Radeon 9700pro isn't an ATI card. It is. I shouldn't have to specify built by ati or powered by ati every time I refer to a board with ATI GPU on it. I know it's pretty typical for nerds but some people really have to grab stick in as$ and pull...
Do you ppl have some problem understanding the distinction between "Built By ATI" and "Based On ATI".
As you quoted him and STILL didn't understand (obviously) the card is NOT BUILT by ATI but IS BASED on a ATI GPU, therefore it is a ATI BASED card. Just like MSI/Asus/ABit/Pine etc are nVidia cards (read nVidia BASED cards). Geez you'd think it was rocket science or something.
Do you think that when people talk about nVidia cards they're talking specifically about nVidia's reference design cards? 99.9999% of the population equate "nVidia cards" to nVidia based cards (NOT just those cards actually BUILT BY nVidia). The same should and does apply for ATI.
Thorin
Thanks thorin. Some people, eh? Man, he quotes me saying that it has no bearing on built by ati cards and still seems to think I'm attacking ATI for following Nvidia's footsteps or something. I've said it...let me count...SIX times that I know it doesn't affect built by ati and I just thought it was funny to see it on an Radeon. You know, in Europe you can't even buy built by ATI cards. They're all third parties....
I still dont get it why the title should be changed
edt.
read Thorin's post, now I dont understand what the fuzz is all about
edt.
read Thorin's post, now I dont understand what the fuzz is all about
Thorin being one of the people who assumed that this cooling system applied to all ATi cards due to the title, he being one of the mislead.
Actually it was more because I didn't look closely at the pictures and notice the 9700/9500 stickers. As I said earlier......
Thorin
The irony and double-standards in this thread (and on this board in general) are amusing:
nVidia releases preview GF FX Ultra boards with reference PCB and cooling to reviewers. Despite knowing and acknowledging nVidia doesn't choose the cooling or design for the end-market nVidia graphics cards, fanATics go apesh!t and AT forums are spammed to no end with photochopped links and school yard humor.
Fast forward to today:
An actual AIB maker, albeit an obscure one, releases specifications for a nearly identical cooling solution that will actually be implemented on their shipped retail products, and said fanATics resort to semantics and grammar in attempts to discredit the poster.
Grow up ladies.
Chiz
nVidia releases preview GF FX Ultra boards with reference PCB and cooling to reviewers. Despite knowing and acknowledging nVidia doesn't choose the cooling or design for the end-market nVidia graphics cards, fanATics go apesh!t and AT forums are spammed to no end with photochopped links and school yard humor.
Fast forward to today:
An actual AIB maker, albeit an obscure one, releases specifications for a nearly identical cooling solution that will actually be implemented on their shipped retail products, and said fanATics resort to semantics and grammar in attempts to discredit the poster.
Grow up ladies.
Chiz
I wonder how many people it's occured to that you can't get built by ati cards in europe and other parts of the world. Not everyone reading this board is in North America, you know.
Originally posted by: LukFilm
The difference is that ALL GFFX cards have this insane cooling solution whereas only one small company makes an ATI-GPU-based card. I don't see any double standard whatsoever.
You're so wrong, but I'm sure you think you're right.
The difference is that ALL GFFX cards have this insane cooling solution whereas only one small company makes an ATI-GPU-based card with this cooling solution. I don't see any double standard whatsoever.
Originally posted by: chizow
Originally posted by: LukFilm
The difference is that ALL GFFX cards have this insane cooling solution whereas only one small company makes an ATI-GPU-based card. I don't see any double standard whatsoever.
You're so wrong, but I'm sure you think you're right.
so ALL ATI cards are going to have this type of cooling solution?
Actually, not all GeForce FX 5800 Ultras use this cooling solution. Some manufacturers chose not to use it. Anyway, the double standard is in people quibbling over symatics instead of enjoying the humour of a radeon with said cooler. It's just funny to see. I've said now 8 times that it has no bearing on built by ati cards but the ATI fanbois are out in force to kick the crap out of the humour...
Nope that statement is just as or even more misleading then the other things you guys are complaining about. It isn't "ALLGFFX Cards" it's just that 'most' of the highend (non mainstream .... according to nVidia's def'n) 0.13um based cards that use the FlowFX like cooling system(s).Originally posted by: LukFilm
The difference is that ALL GFFX cards have this insane cooling solution whereas only one small company makes an ATI-GPU-based card. I don't see any double standard whatsoever.
Thorin
No. And that makes it the nineth time I've said it. It was just a homorous thing to see. It's not a "HA HA HA HA ATI is doing what they've criticised nvidia for all along"t thing. Because they're not. It's just something that's funny to see. FlowFX on a radeon. Some people have to distort everything into company A vs company B. They just can't appreciate something funny when they see it. Nerds...jesus.
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