Athiest in society

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
Im not sure how anyone else feels about this topic

my gf and her family are religious of course. i could care less. i feel thats there business or perogative. who am i to tell them other wise.
i just feel i dont wanna believe in a man in the sky or the evil beast down below...thats besides the point.

but why is it so hard to stomach that we dont believe?
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

my experience has been pretty good, as in others i know dont care but there are some who really dont like it.
anyone else kinda feel the same, as in its silly that its ok for us to accept them, but the fact they dont accept us

It's the Wedsnday Night Blood Sacrifices to Satan that turns them off.

 

[Pacemaker]

I'm not an atheist (I'm somewhere between agnostic and deist). The OP is obviously upset at the situation (and I don't blame him), because he would probably rather stay away from the person who is trying to destroy his relationship, but because that person is his gf?s father, he is stuck.

OP if you want to stay with your gf be civil to her father and don't take it so hard when he acts like that, because if your gf was going to break up with you for that she probably would have done it already. If she doesn't care then don't worry about what her father thinks.

That being said referring to a higher power in a negative way will always elicit a negative response (if said in the presence of someone who is religious) and as such shouldn't be said unless you want such a response.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

Obviously not. Just one look in the newspaper proves it.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

Obviously not. Just one look in the newspaper proves it.

What does that have to do with anything? Are you implying that religious people don't do any of that shit? They just rationalize it their heads as "sinning" and god will forgive them.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

Obviously not. Just one look in the newspaper proves it.

What does that have to do with anything? Are you implying that religious people don't do any of that shit? They just rationalize it their heads as "sinning" and god will forgive them.

im saying..without there little book.. were the same people.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

Obviously not. Just one look in the newspaper proves it.

What does that have to do with anything? Are you implying that religious people don't do any of that shit? They just rationalize it their heads as "sinning" and god will forgive them.

im saying..without there little book.. were the same people.

Huh?

"Obviously not. Just one look in the newspaper proves it." Implies that atheists "obviously do not" believe in the same morals.

edit - Ah, i get your point now, my bads

 

[fishjie]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

Obviously not. Just one look in the newspaper proves it.

yeah exactly.... religion has been proven to have a correlation with higher rates of murder, infanticide, and etc, whereas atheist countries have much higher levels of prosperity and quality of life.

 

[RESmonkey]

fuck religion

 

[Jeff7]

The Atheist Apocalypse

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I don't go for any of that "spiritual" stuff. I don't believe that there is any eternal "soul" thing that is separate from the body and mind.
Body includes the brain. The mind resides in the brain, and is a product of a lot of neurons working together, continually processing information. We call it "consciousness." Animals have it, on a different functional level.
We eat like animals, we sleep like animals, we have sex like animals, we fight like animals (more efficiently, actually), and we die like animals. But somehow we're so much better than them. Mmmmkay then.

The "spiritual awakening" for drug users? It's called "learn some damn self-discipline." You have an addictive personality. You also have a great degree of control over your own mind, and over your urges. Control yourself. You don't need to believe that you're getting "power" from some higher entity. You are the source of your own power. Realizing that is a great step towards true independence, rather than waiting for some deity to "give" you the power to effect change.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: Imp
I'm not an atheist, I believe in god, just not in religion. No idea what the term is; don't think it's agnostic.

Anyways, I could careless if you believed in one god or another. It's when you start imposing that crap on me when I start firing back.

Its called spiritual.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
The Atheist Apocalypse

Fear it!!!

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hehe

 

[DomS]

i don't take kindly to folks that don't take kindly

 

[StageLeft]

we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

lawls

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
Im not sure how anyone else feels about this topic

my gf and her family are religious of course. i could care less. i feel thats there business or perogative. who am i to tell them other wise.
i just feel i dont wanna believe in a man in the sky or the evil beast down below...thats besides the point.

but why is it so hard to stomach that we dont believe?
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

my experience has been pretty good, as in others i know dont care but there are some who really dont like it.
anyone else kinda feel the same, as in its silly that its ok for us to accept them, but the fact they dont accept us

You're actually posting this, an atheist sympathy plea, on AT. :shocked:

 

[JakwoW]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: JakwoW

Originally posted by: Arcadio
Actually, based on what I've noticed, the real question should be it's opposite: most atheists I've met find it difficult to accept people who believe.

Most religious people don't really feel angry against atheists.

This is the opposite of my experience.

Yes, because you only hear from the minority zealots. Imagine all the people that don't bother you but are also very religious.

Nope. Pretty much 90% of religious people have a much different view of me once they learn I'm not one of them. They question my lack of beliefs and tell me I'm going to hell. It happens at work, used to happen at school, and in a couple of cases has happened with family and those I thought were close friends. These are not "minority zealots", they are everyday people that I otherwise have a lot in common with.

 

[IGBT]

..I'll bet your an eco-theist.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..I'll bet your an eco-theist.

:laugh:

Oh man, you don't think of anything else, do you? I can see your room - the walls have "eco-KOOK" and "eco-theist" scrawled all over them in pencil and crayon.

Seek help.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
explain my hypocrisy??? the fact i accept others for what they believe. but get told that i dont deserve someone or deserve to goto hell because i dont believe in a hippy who lives in the sky.
i think its you who needs to do some explaining before you throw "hypocrisy" out. i was simply saying that society as a whole tends to bend around the religious groups.. laws are made because of religious people... why cant i buy booze on sundays?? because of some religious person.
and im a hypocrite because i simply asked if anyone else felt that the acceptance didnt go both ways.

flying spaghetti monster, hippy who lives in the sky?

you see, you can ridicule others for believing, but they aren't supposed to judge you. that's being a hypocrite.

You need to provide evidence for your case before expecting anyone to take you seriously. Religion has never done this.

 

[fishjie]

the bible says that the bible is true

thats good enough for me!

 

[herm0016]

the church of the FSM is a real, recognized religion with followers. I am a member of a local pastafarian group. it was not a book, it was a letter, and our bible was published sometime after the original letter to the Kansas school board. I think you are a hypocrite. you should do some research before you tell other to do it.

 

[covert24]

Originally posted by: OdiN
I really don't care what anyone believes. It's your free will to believe as you choose. So long as you are not trying to push your beliefs on others or do not discriminate or look down on others for whatever they may choose to believe, I really don't care.

 

[Dumac]

Oh god, you are an adult?

I thought we were talking to an angsty teen until you started talking about how you were typing this from work...

 

[njdevilsfan87]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
I have found that actively not believing in a god(s) can often be just as difficult as believing in one for many people. The easiest way I have found to combat such things is to just not care at all one way or the other. It tends to be the least conflicting too when dealing with family/society unless they are the type that really looks down upon those who do not share similar beliefs or are constantly trying to push theirs on you. In which case, it's their loss. My time will not be wasted.

This is the case for me. It just pisses me off sometimes that I'm agnostic because I just want 'to know'. But I'm not going to lie to myself.

And you're right... I rarely think about it, because I never get anywhere. It's always an infinite loop of reasoning no matter where you go with it. So yes... it's a waste of time.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: fishjie
the bible says that the bible is true

thats good enough for me!

You sound like you'd make a good Governor of Alaska.

 

[fishjie]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: fishjie
the bible says that the bible is true

thats good enough for me!

You sound like you'd make a good Governor of Alaska.

or a great president of the united states of america